3.89/172--chances at $$ in t14?

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housie07
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3.89/172--chances at $$ in t14?

Postby housie07 » Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:09 pm

Hey guys, I am wondering if I have a shot at getting money (and wondering how much is likely) from a t14. My numbers are 3.89 from a top 40 liberal arts school, 172 lsat, solid softs (but nothing especially noteworthy), and I will have two years' work experience when I begin law school (one teaching, one at some random job). I am wondering if any t14 would give me much money, and also what UCLA might give. Thank you!

Edit: especially interested in schools on the west coast.

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Re: 3.89/172--chances at $$ in t14?

Postby BenJ » Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:41 pm

Applying now or next cycle? Now, you could get into Berkeley but won't get $$$ and admission is not guaranteed. Stanford is unlikely to accept you this late. Next cycle, you are quite likely to get in at Stanford but would not get $$$. Berkeley loves early applicants and would definitely admit you early on next cycle, but no chance of $$$ as the UC system is broke. UCLA is just outside the T14 and would definitely admit you now. USC is only just lower and would admit and give $$$. The UC system is so broke that they're making almost everyone pay sticker; otherwise, UCLA would give you plenty of $$$ too.

Looking outside Cali, now, you stand a very good shot at the T14 below HYS and CCN (except Northwestern as it's too late for the interviews); very likely out at Harvard and Yale, possibly in off the waitlist at Columbia, Chicago and NYU. Applying early next cycle, you stand a good shot at HYS and should be in everywhere else with the possibility of $$$ at the lower T14.
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Re: 3.89/172--chances at $$ in t14?

Postby englawyer » Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:45 pm

OP's numbers look good enough for Yale. they emphasize that there is not an advantage of applying early. it would come down to softs i would say, but worth an app

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Re: 3.89/172--chances at $$ in t14?

Postby BenJ » Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:48 pm

englawyer wrote:OP's numbers look good enough for Yale. they emphasize that there is not an advantage of applying early. it would come down to softs i would say, but worth an app


They say that, but I'm not sure I believe it. Yale usually only admits 175+ after December unless there's a really good story or the 250 is amazing or something. (S)he might have one of those, but I'm assuming not.

Then again, Yale is really, really unpredictable. It's at least worth a shot, anyway. So is Harvard, just less likely due to being more predictable.

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Re: 3.89/172--chances at $$ in t14?

Postby democrattotheend » Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:12 pm

BenJ wrote:Applying now or next cycle? Now, you could get into Berkeley but won't get $$$ and admission is not guaranteed. Stanford is unlikely to accept you this late. Next cycle, you are quite likely to get in at Stanford but would not get $$$. Berkeley loves early applicants and would definitely admit you early on next cycle, but no chance of $$$ as the UC system is broke. UCLA is just outside the T14 and would definitely admit you now. USC is only just lower and would admit and give $$$. The UC system is so broke that they're making almost everyone pay sticker; otherwise, UCLA would give you plenty of $$$ too.

Looking outside Cali, now, you stand a very good shot at the T14 below HYS and CCN (except Northwestern as it's too late for the interviews); very likely out at Harvard and Yale, possibly in off the waitlist at Columbia, Chicago and NYU. Applying early next cycle, you stand a good shot at HYS and should be in everywhere else with the possibility of $$$ at the lower T14.


Does when you apply make a big difference at Stanford? From what I have read I didn't get that sense. It might help, but it wasn't one of the schools that seemed to really put a big emphasis on it. I'm about to apply there but do you think it's a waste at this point (I have 1 point higher LSAT than the OP but a slightly lower GPA).

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Re: 3.89/172--chances at $$ in t14?

Postby englawyer » Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:27 pm

democrattotheend wrote:
BenJ wrote:Applying now or next cycle? Now, you could get into Berkeley but won't get $$$ and admission is not guaranteed. Stanford is unlikely to accept you this late. Next cycle, you are quite likely to get in at Stanford but would not get $$$. Berkeley loves early applicants and would definitely admit you early on next cycle, but no chance of $$$ as the UC system is broke. UCLA is just outside the T14 and would definitely admit you now. USC is only just lower and would admit and give $$$. The UC system is so broke that they're making almost everyone pay sticker; otherwise, UCLA would give you plenty of $$$ too.

Looking outside Cali, now, you stand a very good shot at the T14 below HYS and CCN (except Northwestern as it's too late for the interviews); very likely out at Harvard and Yale, possibly in off the waitlist at Columbia, Chicago and NYU. Applying early next cycle, you stand a good shot at HYS and should be in everywhere else with the possibility of $$$ at the lower T14.


Does when you apply make a big difference at Stanford? From what I have read I didn't get that sense. It might help, but it wasn't one of the schools that seemed to really put a big emphasis on it. I'm about to apply there but do you think it's a waste at this point (I have 1 point higher LSAT than the OP but a slightly lower GPA).


its $75 for a chance at an amazing law school. worth the chance, even if BenJ's predictions about january applications are true. chance is non-zero in any case

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Re: 3.89/172--chances at $$ in t14?

Postby FZJ80 » Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:44 pm

well, i can add UCLA offered me 75k with a 3.85/171.

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Re: 3.89/172--chances at $$ in t14?

Postby housie07 » Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:02 pm

Thank you for replies--I would be applying next cycle.

Especially nice news about the UCLA $$!

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Re: 3.89/172--chances at $$ in t14?

Postby Amelie » Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:14 pm

If you're looking at the west coast, I don't think Berkeley gives much merit aid, and you'll definitely get a lot from UCLA. But I just got $90K at UVA with an LSAT just 1 point above yours and close to the same GPA, so I'd say you're looking good for $$ there.

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Re: 3.89/172--chances at $$ in t14?

Postby ze2151 » Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:45 pm

maggie,
was your $$$ offer included in your acceptance?! so jeal.

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Re: 3.89/172--chances at $$ in t14?

Postby Amelie » Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:18 pm

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Re: 3.89/172--chances at $$ in t14?

Postby im_blue » Fri Jan 08, 2010 3:39 am

FZJ80 wrote:well, i can add UCLA offered me 75k with a 3.85/171.


Of course they did, those are CCN numbers!




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