3.39/165... Texas

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3.39/165... Texas

Postby Marco Esquandolas » Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:41 am

I have a 3.39 cumulative gpa, with about a 3.7 within my major from a top 20 University--at least according to the US News rankings. I took the LSAT twice, first time got a 161, 165 the second time (about 5 below my practice average, ugh.) My only question is what chances I have at UT-Austin as an out of state, non-URM applicant. According to Law School Predictor I'm a weak consider, and am in the 29th percentile of all applicants given my numbers. It seems like the numbers for Texas have a strong upward trend in recent years, though, so I'm wondering if the application money would likely be better spent elsewhere. Thanks for the help

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Re: 3.39/165... Texas

Postby jawsthegreat » Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:45 am

0-10%

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Re: 3.39/165... Texas

Postby Marco Esquandolas » Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:48 am

I should also add some previous numbers from my undergraduate college. Note: these are from the 2007-2008 application year.

Of the 21 students who were accepted to Texas, the mean LSAT was a 166.1, and the mean gpa was 3.58. Of the 6 students who ultimately chose to matriculate at Texas, the mean LSAT was 162.7, and the mean gpa was 3.56.

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Re: 3.39/165... Texas

Postby Marco Esquandolas » Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:49 am

Thanks for the help. Obviously not what I wanted to hear, but UT is pretty much my dream school, so I guess we'll see how it goes.

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Re: 3.39/165... Texas

Postby jawsthegreat » Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:57 am

Marco Esquandolas wrote:I should also add some previous numbers from my undergraduate college. Note: these are from the 2007-2008 application year.

Of the 21 students who were accepted to Texas, the mean LSAT was a 166.1, and the mean gpa was 3.58. Of the 6 students who ultimately chose to matriculate at Texas, the mean LSAT was 162.7, and the mean gpa was 3.56.


This means nothing, WTF is this? That stuff has nothing to do with anything.

Sorry to be debbie downer but you really have no shot.

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Re: 3.39/165... Texas

Postby Marco Esquandolas » Sun Jan 03, 2010 2:01 am

Its just an extra data point for comparison I guess. Mellow out.

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Re: 3.39/165... Texas

Postby jawsthegreat » Sun Jan 03, 2010 2:07 am

Marco Esquandolas wrote:Its just an extra data point for comparison I guess. Mellow out.


Has 0 to do with law school. If you want to go to Texas you should retake the LSAT and make around a 172.

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Re: 3.39/165... Texas

Postby Marco Esquandolas » Sun Jan 03, 2010 2:08 am

It has everything to do with law school. The numbers I gave are from students from my university who applied to and were accepted at Texas. I fail to see how they are irrelevant.

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Re: 3.39/165... Texas

Postby jawsthegreat » Sun Jan 03, 2010 2:30 am

Marco Esquandolas wrote:It has everything to do with law school. The numbers I gave are from students from my university who applied to and were accepted at Texas. I fail to see how they are irrelevant.


Because what has happened to others has nothing to do with what will happen to you. Look at LSN, use lawschoolpredictor, ask any body, your chances of being admitted are slim to zero.

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Re: 3.39/165... Texas

Postby Marco Esquandolas » Sun Jan 03, 2010 3:07 am

First, I never disagreed with your assessment that my chances are slim to zero. In fact, I thanked you for it. Second, you direct me to two sites which will compare my numbers to other students' numbers, then tell me that what has happened to others has nothing to do with what will happen to me? WTF?

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Re: 3.39/165... Texas

Postby jawsthegreat » Sun Jan 03, 2010 3:11 am

Marco Esquandolas wrote:First, I never disagreed with your assessment that my chances are slim to zero. In fact, I thanked you for it. Second, you direct me to two sites which will compare my numbers to other students' numbers, then tell me that what has happened to others has nothing to do with what will happen to me? WTF?


Because the other site clearly shows you have no chance.

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Re: 3.39/165... Texas

Postby Shlonster » Sun Jan 03, 2010 3:47 am

Yes, your chances are slim. From what I've read, they are pretty choosy when picking out of staters.

Also, while I get your point that he says other people's scores are not good indicators of success, and then sends you to LSN, but it's important to know the difference between less than 10 data points and several hundred. Don't compare yourself to other people from you school, UG means little in l.s. apps.

Retake the LSAT and score higher (your gpa is hurting you) or go for Houston?

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Re: 3.39/165... Texas

Postby ec2xs » Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:14 am

They have only accepted one person with a sub-3.4 GPA on LawSchoolNumbers, and that person was an URM with a 170+ LSAT.

General knowledge seems to be that UT has gone very GPA-heavy recently. It was my dream school as well but I was a low GPA/high LSAT applicant. They don't be wantin' our kind. Rock a 170 on the LSAT and you have a chance.

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Re: 3.39/165... Texas

Postby Borachio05 » Sun Jan 03, 2010 3:01 pm

The best shot for the OP would be to move to Texas, get residency, and then make a 168+ on the LSAT.

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Re: 3.39/165... Texas

Postby Borachio05 » Sun Jan 03, 2010 3:04 pm

ec2xs wrote:They have only accepted one person with a sub-3.4 GPA on LawSchoolNumbers, and that person was an URM with a 170+ LSAT.

General knowledge seems to be that UT has gone very GPA-heavy recently. It was my dream school as well but I was a low GPA/high LSAT applicant. They don't be wantin' our kind. Rock a 170 on the LSAT and you have a chance.


Source?

I'm not doubting you, I'm just curious where you heard this? That's good news for me, if it's true. I'm a 3.8/162 Latino who's also a Texas resident.




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