Bad Impressions

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CJRpnw
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Re: Bad Impressions

Postby CJRpnw » Mon Apr 04, 2016 5:30 pm

Purplepen wrote:Still waiting to hear from NYU (to get a ding or wl obviously), so I visited Fordham because they offered a good sum of money and it's more home city. I attended a tour because I lhave been accepted to better schools, so asd there is s lower priority for work days off than other schools. If the tour guide never opened her mouth, I would have probably been very impressed by the just how pretty the building was, but oh freakin lord I withdrew immediately after that tour. Never have I met such an unprofessional, pessimistic, uninformed individual throughout this entire process. Every answer to every question was 'idk why don't you ask someone else.' Like you're a 3L, what the heck have you been doing for three years that you can't answer a single question about the school? Furthermore, when asked about 'anecdotal job prospects in the market' here, she basically said if she got into any better school in any region she would have gone there instead. What a nightmare, gladly declining my scholarship.

As a side note, I also didn't really like WashU when I visited, but I can't quite put a finger on why, something rubbed me the wrong way. they didn't give me enough money to hold my interest.


Student tour guides can be ROUGH. Touring a Midwest school this weekend, I actually had to ask if we could, you know, see the library -- they were content to stand outside the double doors and gesture, "And that's the library."

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Re: Bad Impressions

Postby ddoomm » Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:47 am

At 4:50am this morning I received this e-mail, that read in part:
"I hope that this note finds you well and gearing up for what's ahead. I realize that you have your reasons for withdrawing your application from our program; however, we are hoping to leave the lines of communication open, in case you have a change of plans."

At 9:43am, the follow up e-mail:
"This morning you may have received an automated email from our system that is directed to students who have decided to withdraw their application from our program. This message was sent to you in error. We apologize for any inconvenience and confusion that this may have caused."

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Re: Bad Impressions

Postby OtterLaw » Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:09 pm

Iam3hunna wrote:
kwabedi wrote:
Iam3hunna wrote:UVA's YUGE seat deposit left a bad impression on me. Does that count?


That depends, how YUUUUUUUUGEE was it?


About $1,000 Yuge


It's actually only $500 for the first one, and $500 for the second one in June. I actually thought that was pretty standard for most schools, but correct me if I'm wrong.

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Re: Bad Impressions

Postby Nachoo2019 » Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:17 pm

OtterLaw wrote:
Iam3hunna wrote:
kwabedi wrote:
Iam3hunna wrote:UVA's YUGE seat deposit left a bad impression on me. Does that count?


That depends, how YUUUUUUUUGEE was it?


About $1,000 Yuge


It's actually only $500 for the first one, and $500 for the second one in June. I actually thought that was pretty standard for most schools, but correct me if I'm wrong.


The deposit I am getting ready to put down is two installments of $750

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Re: Bad Impressions

Postby fliptrip » Sat Apr 09, 2016 2:30 pm

Iam3hunna wrote:
kwabedi wrote:
Iam3hunna wrote:UVA's YUGE seat deposit left a bad impression on me. Does that count?


That depends, how YUUUUUUUUGEE was it?


About $1,000 Yuge


It is definitely yuge when you realize that Yale's deposit is $250 unless they've changed it, and Harvard's is $0. Berkeley's is $0 too.

$1,000 in cash is a lot of money...UVA clearly wants it to hurt if you get off that HYS waitlist spot you're holding into the summer.

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Re: Bad Impressions

Postby Iam3hunna » Sat Apr 09, 2016 2:37 pm

fliptrip wrote:
Iam3hunna wrote:
kwabedi wrote:
Iam3hunna wrote:UVA's YUGE seat deposit left a bad impression on me. Does that count?


That depends, how YUUUUUUUUGEE was it?


About $1,000 Yuge


It is definitely yuge when you realize that Yale's deposit is $250 unless they've changed it, and Harvard's is $0. Berkeley's is $0 too.

$1,000 in cash is a lot of money...UVA clearly wants it to hurt if you get off that HYS waitlist spot you're holding into the summer.


Columbia's is like 600 and I think NYU's is 500 as well. Significantly cheaper IMO.

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Re: Bad Impressions

Postby slizerd » Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:24 pm

This made me laugh more than it made me dislike the schools:
I'm ME but lived in the US my entire life, was born here, etc. In my apps, mentioned nothing about religion at all (because why would I?). Three T14s so far have sent me emails with Arabic greetings (I'm not even Arabic) from their Muslim student associations. Hrmmmmm.

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Re: Bad Impressions

Postby Serett » Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:42 pm

This was a couple of cycles ago, but during a visit, UMich assigned me to sit in on a class that didn't actually meet that day. The professor across the hall kindly invited me to sit in on his class instead (an environmental law course of some sort rather than a 1L course), which at least spoke well of him if not of the admissions department.

And I don't really think people should need to add this disclaimer, but since they apparently do: it of course did not consciously impact my decision of where to attend.

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Re: Bad Impressions

Postby Hikikomorist » Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:20 pm

Just FYI to everyone, schools will sometimes refund your deposit, in contradiction of official policy.

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Re: Bad Impressions

Postby fliptrip » Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:27 pm

Serett wrote:This was a couple of cycles ago, but during a visit, UMich assigned me to sit in on a class that didn't actually meet that day. The professor across the hall kindly invited me to sit in on his class instead (an environmental law course of some sort rather than a 1L course), which at least spoke well of him if not of the admissions department.

And I don't really think people should need to add this disclaimer, but since they apparently do: it of course did not consciously impact my decision of where to attend.


No, we should not need that disclaimer, but I am glad you mentioned it. Many of the gripes we have here are just evidence that the school's admissions offices are staffed by human beings who mess up. With the many hundreds of folks they deal with annually, it's more than understandable to see a typo here or a schedule snafu there. Now if you have something mission-critical going on and they tarry excessively or are disorganized, that's fair to be concerned about.

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Re: Bad Impressions

Postby luckboxr » Tue Jul 19, 2016 3:57 am

USD Law: I got admitted, but they wouldn't even reply to my email, nor could I get ahold of any of the admissions people via phone. Bottom line: avoid this school like the plague.

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Re: Bad Impressions

Postby brinicolec » Tue Jul 19, 2016 1:34 pm

Pizon wrote:
Richie Tenenbaum wrote:How nice or mean an admissions person is shouldn't have any effect on your decision-making process. These are people you will probably never talk to again, even if you attend that school. While it's arguable that having an incompetent admissions office should reflect poorly on a school, you have better data to base your decision on about how competent the law school is overall: their employment placement numbers.


.......

Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.


Pft, figuring out how nice the fin aid office is is incredibly important, imo. I know some fin aid offices that have been NIGHTMARES for my friends (luckily I haven't had any of those issues myself) and those nightmares also came with stories of problems with the school trying to change their fin aid packages randomly or something.

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Re: Bad Impressions

Postby cavalier1138 » Sat Aug 06, 2016 8:58 am

brinicolec wrote:
Pizon wrote:
Richie Tenenbaum wrote:How nice or mean an admissions person is shouldn't have any effect on your decision-making process. These are people you will probably never talk to again, even if you attend that school. While it's arguable that having an incompetent admissions office should reflect poorly on a school, you have better data to base your decision on about how competent the law school is overall: their employment placement numbers.


.......

Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.


Pft, figuring out how nice the fin aid office is is incredibly important, imo. I know some fin aid offices that have been NIGHTMARES for my friends (luckily I haven't had any of those issues myself) and those nightmares also came with stories of problems with the school trying to change their fin aid packages randomly or something.


I have literally never heard of that happening with a law school scholarship. If there's a stipulation attached (because it's a terrible scam of a school), then that's very clearly included in your scholarship offer.

Now, your federal loan disbursements may change if you get married, income changes, etc., but that's not the financial aid office "randomly" changing anything.

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Re: Bad Impressions

Postby Nebby » Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:37 am

LJL at withdrawing because you had a bad tour. Law school's purpose is to train you for a job, not a three year day spa

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Re: Bad Impressions

Postby jdmonkey » Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:07 am

I do think you can judge a school based on its admissions office when the office tries to coerce you into making an uniformed decision. I remember when I got into USC the admissions people wanted me to make my decision in 3 days! I wasn't on the waitlist, but just got admitted the regular way. I sent an email to them asking "if you train your attorneys to make impulsive decisions without taking the time to research alternatives." That email changed their tune, but I still figured that there must be something wrong with the school if they have to be that aggressive with the people they admit. Hopefully they no longer do that to applicants.




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