Texas? Yeehaw!!

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Postby patrickd139 » Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:44 am

privatemf wrote:
dr123 wrote:blah blah blah... rednecks...blah blah


Am I the only one that fins this "R" word offensive?

Yes.

Also, this...
kalvano wrote:Don't go to Texas. It won't have anything to do with your liberal views when you get hit in the face. It will be because you sound like a condescending, arrogant prick.

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Postby Mce252 » Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:07 pm

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Postby Marionberry » Fri Apr 15, 2011 3:43 pm

But where else would you get to see a deposition like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIxmrvbMeKc

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Postby Bartlebee06 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:42 pm

OP is a DICK! Move to Canada if you like socialism and take Obama with you. Texas is the antithesis of socialism. Thats why they have a surplus. What a dick!

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Postby Marionberry » Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:46 pm

Bartlebee06 wrote:OP is a DICK! Move to Canada if you like socialism and take Obama with you. Texas is the antithesis of socialism. Thats why they have a surplus. What a dick!

:?

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Postby kalvano » Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:48 pm

Bartlebee06 wrote:OP is a DICK! Move to Canada if you like socialism and take Obama with you. Texas is the antithesis of socialism. Thats why they have a surplus. What a dick!



A surplus of guns, rednecks, and awful weather. Of money, not so much.

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Postby Marionberry » Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:49 pm

kalvano wrote:
Bartlebee06 wrote:OP is a DICK! Move to Canada if you like socialism and take Obama with you. Texas is the antithesis of socialism. Thats why they have a surplus. What a dick!



A surplus of guns, rednecks, and awful weather. Of money, not so much.


One out of the three is a pretty big draw.

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Postby Leira7905 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:50 pm

Bartlebee06 wrote:OP is a DICK! Move to Canada if you like socialism and take Obama with you. Texas is the antithesis of socialism. Thats why they have a surplus. What a dick!


We don't have a surplus. We just lost a huge chunk of money from public education in an attempt to balance the budget. We're still doing better than a lot of states, but surplus is an exaggeration.

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Marionberry wrote:
kalvano wrote:
Bartlebee06 wrote:OP is a DICK! Move to Canada if you like socialism and take Obama with you. Texas is the antithesis of socialism. Thats why they have a surplus. What a dick!



A surplus of guns, rednecks, and awful weather. Of money, not so much.


One out of the three is a pretty big draw.



Texas is actually heading for a pretty big fall at its current rate.

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Postby Marionberry » Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:53 pm

kalvano wrote:
Marionberry wrote:
kalvano wrote:
Bartlebee06 wrote:OP is a DICK! Move to Canada if you like socialism and take Obama with you. Texas is the antithesis of socialism. Thats why they have a surplus. What a dick!



A surplus of guns, rednecks, and awful weather. Of money, not so much.


One out of the three is a pretty big draw.



Texas is actually heading for a pretty big fall at its current rate.


I'm not very knowledgeable about the situation, but it certainly appears that way. I was just talking about the guns. :D

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Leira7905 wrote:
Bartlebee06 wrote:OP is a DICK! Move to Canada if you like socialism and take Obama with you. Texas is the antithesis of socialism. Thats why they have a surplus. What a dick!


We don't have a surplus. We just lost a huge chunk of money from public education in an attempt to balance the budget. We're still doing better than a lot of states, but surplus is an exaggeration.




Yep, just saw the numbers. Texas has a deficit. My bad! I believe that Texas has the fortitude to balance their budget though.

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Bartlebee06 wrote:
Leira7905 wrote:
Bartlebee06 wrote:OP is a DICK! Move to Canada if you like socialism and take Obama with you. Texas is the antithesis of socialism. Thats why they have a surplus. What a dick!


We don't have a surplus. We just lost a huge chunk of money from public education in an attempt to balance the budget. We're still doing better than a lot of states, but surplus is an exaggeration.




Yep, just saw the numbers. Texas has a deficit. My bad! I believe that Texas has the fortitude to balance their budget though.



At the expense of many things, including education, which was Perry's "go to" cut. In a state that already ranks almost at the bottom in education.

God forbid Perry start taxing business instead of cutting education.

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Postby Leira7905 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:03 pm

kalvano wrote:
Bartlebee06 wrote:
Leira7905 wrote:
Bartlebee06 wrote:OP is a DICK! Move to Canada if you like socialism and take Obama with you. Texas is the antithesis of socialism. Thats why they have a surplus. What a dick!


We don't have a surplus. We just lost a huge chunk of money from public education in an attempt to balance the budget. We're still doing better than a lot of states, but surplus is an exaggeration.




Yep, just saw the numbers. Texas has a deficit. My bad! I believe that Texas has the fortitude to balance their budget though.



At the expense of many things, including education, which was Perry's "go to" cut. In a state that already ranks almost at the bottom in education.

God forbid Perry start taxing business instead of cutting education.


AMEN! I blame Perry.

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Postby Bartlebee06 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:03 pm

At the expense of many things, including education, which was Perry's "go to" cut. In a state that already ranks almost at the bottom in education.

God forbid Perry start taxing business instead of cutting education.[/quote]



Taxing businesses = leaving businesses

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kalvano wrote:
Marionberry wrote:
kalvano wrote:
Bartlebee06 wrote:OP is a DICK! Move to Canada if you like socialism and take Obama with you. Texas is the antithesis of socialism. Thats why they have a surplus. What a dick!



A surplus of guns, rednecks, and awful weather. Of money, not so much.


One out of the three is a pretty big draw.



Texas is actually heading for a pretty big fall at its current rate.


in what sense? i dont see the estimated deficit as a huge problem. it'll get balanced, and part of it is due to the amount the state has to put up for the new healthcare bill. we have a rainy day fund and something similar has happened before, but with less (maybe not) hooha. though ill agree, the corp tax under-performs even what lawmakers planned for it to do, so lets get it up to par...(although a financial plus for TX is how it draws in businesses from states like CA)

awful weather is pretty subjective...though obviously being hot as hell is never "good weather" ... lol for some reason, i tend to only live in the extremes (not necessarily by choice), and TX heat prob better than NE winters for me personally. on rednecks...iunno, depends on where you live/people you interact with i guess. ive never really met/spoken to a redneck in my life before, and i was never verbally accosted for racial reasons till i got up north, but then again, ive just lived in the suburbs of major cities. TX is big enough where you can live your whole life in just a few spots and have no idea about the rest of it (from firsthand experience i mean).

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Postby kalvano » Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:20 pm

DoubleChecks wrote:
kalvano wrote:Texas is actually heading for a pretty big fall at its current rate.


in what sense? i dont see the estimated deficit as a huge problem. it'll get balanced, and part of it is due to the amount the state has to put up for the new healthcare bill. we have a rainy day fund and something similar has happened before, but with less (maybe not) hooha. though ill agree, the corp tax under-performs even what lawmakers planned for it to do, so lets get it up to par...(although a financial plus for TX is how it draws in businesses from states like CA)

awful weather is pretty subjective...though obviously being hot as hell is never "good weather" ... lol for some reason, i tend to only live in the extremes (not necessarily by choice), and TX heat prob better than NE winters for me personally. on rednecks...iunno, depends on where you live/people you interact with i guess. ive never really met/spoken to a redneck in my life before, and i was never verbally accosted for racial reasons till i got up north, but then again, ive just lived in the suburbs of major cities. TX is big enough where you can live your whole life in just a few spots and have no idea about the rest of it (from firsthand experience i mean).



I think the deficit is indicative of a larger problem. Texas is portrayed as some magical land of opportunity, so a ton of people move here. However, the state is set up to be very business-friendly at the expense of being able to provide services to people.

Texas can't continue growing the way it has AND supporting all the people without enacting some form of either state income tax or cutting business tax breaks, which will stop any growth because those are precisely why people move here.

Also on the subject, unless you are coming from a heavy-tax state like New Jersey or California, Texas really isn't that much cheaper. Sure, you can buy a nice house for $120K in Bumblefuck, East Texas, but to actually be near a city where the jobs are, you are going to pay not much less than what you pay everywhere else. Then when you add in our ridiculous property taxes, homeowner's insurance (highest in the nation, we're #1! Go Texas!), very high auto insurance, higher sales tax, etc., it really begins to even out.

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Re: Texas? Yeehaw!!

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Bartlebee06 wrote:Taxing businesses = leaving businesses



Money has to come from somewhere. You can't keep adding millions of people by paying business to come here.

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kalvano wrote:
DoubleChecks wrote:
kalvano wrote:Texas is actually heading for a pretty big fall at its current rate.


in what sense? i dont see the estimated deficit as a huge problem. it'll get balanced, and part of it is due to the amount the state has to put up for the new healthcare bill. we have a rainy day fund and something similar has happened before, but with less (maybe not) hooha. though ill agree, the corp tax under-performs even what lawmakers planned for it to do, so lets get it up to par...(although a financial plus for TX is how it draws in businesses from states like CA)

awful weather is pretty subjective...though obviously being hot as hell is never "good weather" ... lol for some reason, i tend to only live in the extremes (not necessarily by choice), and TX heat prob better than NE winters for me personally. on rednecks...iunno, depends on where you live/people you interact with i guess. ive never really met/spoken to a redneck in my life before, and i was never verbally accosted for racial reasons till i got up north, but then again, ive just lived in the suburbs of major cities. TX is big enough where you can live your whole life in just a few spots and have no idea about the rest of it (from firsthand experience i mean).



I think the deficit is indicative of a larger problem. Texas is portrayed as some magical land of opportunity, so a ton of people move here. However, the state is set up to be very business-friendly at the expense of being able to provide services to people.

oh and while i do think there should be fewer business tax breaks (slow down growth, not eliminate it completely), keep in mind that TX had an unemployment rate that was not worse than NY's...but we had like 3x the number of people move into the state in that year (disclaimer: i dont remember the exact numbers so these are kinda out of my ass, just what i kinda recall).
Texas can't continue growing the way it has AND supporting all the people without enacting some form of either state income tax or cutting business tax breaks, which will stop any growth because those are precisely why people move here.

Also on the subject, unless you are coming from a heavy-tax state like New Jersey or California, Texas really isn't that much cheaper. Sure, you can buy a nice house for $120K in Bumblefuck, East Texas, but to actually be near a city where the jobs are, you are going to pay not much less than what you pay everywhere else. Then when you add in our ridiculous property taxes, homeowner's insurance (highest in the nation, we're #1! Go Texas!), very high auto insurance, higher sales tax, etc., it really begins to even out.


lulwut? houses in the suburbs really arent that expensive when you compare to places like NYC and DC. and yes, for most purposes, we ARE talking about places like NYC, Cali, DC, NJ, Chicago -- thats where ppl will buy houses for their major mkt work, not Wyoming. why would we? thats just like Bumblefuck, East Texas. Don't even get me started on the real estate in FL lol.

To be near a city (30min drive), you can live in a very good suburb for <$250k easy. i mean, i dont know what cities you're comparing to, but i imagine the only relevant cities are the ones in primary mkts or large secondaries...and those are not cheaper than TX at all...my expenses in Boston do not come close to evening out my expenses in Austin or Houston.

i do support lowering tax breaks, which may slow down growth, not eliminate it -- but even then, our unemployment rate was not worse than NY's while we had like 3x (i dont remember the multiplier) the number of ppl move into the state that year. so they are getting jobs at least.

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Postby lisjjen » Tue May 03, 2011 3:58 am

Bartlebee06 wrote:OP is a DICK! Move to Canada if you like socialism and take Obama with you. Texas is the antithesis of socialism. Thats why they have a surplus. What a dick!


This amuses me on a fundamental level. Just when it was roundly established that OP wasn't portraying Texas fairly, you write the above and give credibility to everything he was saying. To the extent that there are people saying things like this in the state, thank God I'm going to Austin and not Lubbock.

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Postby Ty Webb » Tue May 03, 2011 4:17 am

It never ceases to amaze me how people think that a city of 4+ million can be pigeon-holed with one stereotype.

Houston, like all large cities, is what you make it.

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Postby Ty Webb » Tue May 03, 2011 4:24 am

Also: you don't have to shovel humidity.

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Postby maqkitty214 » Wed May 04, 2011 5:04 pm

Ty Webb wrote:Also: you don't have to shovel humidity.


Yes! Grew up in Texas, did UG in Chicago, and I'm headed back to SMU in the fall. Efff snow drifts. Give me my 98% humidity and 100 degree heat. I can turn the A/C on, but in the winter my feet are ALWAYS cold, regardless of how high I turn up the heat! I love flip flops and tank tops! I'm so stoked to go back.

On the subject of rednecks, I always thought I was some fancy, better-than-them liberal, but when I moved to Chicago, I realized there are trashy people everywhere, some just wear Sox jerseys instead of Rangers jerseys.

+1 to the people who said a place is what you make it. I was afraid I'd stick out like some crazy hillbilly up here (I use that term quite proudly, I, as stated above, hate shoes, love flip flops), but I have made tons of "Yankee friends" :D who I will be friends with for the rest of my life... and I'm bringing my Yankee boyfriend back to Texas with me. We just embraced our differences instead of fought (and it was quite fun to bait the liberal girl who thought I was one of Rick Perry's advisers, and yelled at me for everything he did.)

People are people, and you're gonna find idiots, trash, awesome, fun, or any other type wherever you go. I always just felt the need to hate on Houston in a facetious way because I'm from Dallas, and each city seems to dislike the other. Just a fun rivalry. :mrgreen:

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Postby kalvano » Thu May 05, 2011 2:22 pm

You people are fucking nuts. If it's cold out, I can throw on a jacket. If it's 105 degrees out, you can't do anything about it.

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Postby beachbum » Thu May 05, 2011 2:27 pm

kalvano wrote:You people are fucking nuts. If it's cold out, I can throw on a jacket. If it's 105 degrees out, you can't do anything about it.


Cold weather sucks regardless of how many layers you throw on. Give me the heat and humidity over the snow and and freezing temps any day of the week.

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Postby kalvano » Thu May 05, 2011 2:31 pm

beachbum wrote:
kalvano wrote:You people are fucking nuts. If it's cold out, I can throw on a jacket. If it's 105 degrees out, you can't do anything about it.


Cold weather sucks regardless of how many layers you throw on. Give me the heat and humidity over the snow and and freezing temps any day of the week.



kalvano wrote:You people are fucking nuts.




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