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Faesha wrote:Question. Did everybody who sent in a LOCI get a confirmation email from Cornell saying that they received your letter? I sent one back in the beginning of January and haven't heard anything about it since. Is this normal or cause for concern??

I got an email a few days after I emailed it in saying they had received it and thanks for the patience... Maybe give them a call?

I e-mailed an update to my file and got an e-mail response the next day. I'd call and ask.

Balls. Ok, thanks for the responses!

jks289 wrote:Sorry V. Both Betty and I are, alas, married women.

I do hear Boston has lots of pretty girls though.

Yeah, but Betty won't be much longer. Ugh, I'm so excited for next season. ...What's with Jon Hamm's beard? Is this going to be a new look for [strike]Dick Whitman[/strike] Don Draper?

Faesha wrote:Question. Did everybody who sent in a LOCI get a confirmation email from Cornell saying that they received your letter? I sent one back in the beginning of January and haven't heard anything about it since. Is this normal or cause for concern??

I got email confirmation, but I also emailed them the letter.

oneforship wrote:

Faesha wrote:Question. Did everybody who sent in a LOCI get a confirmation email from Cornell saying that they received your letter? I sent one back in the beginning of January and haven't heard anything about it since. Is this normal or cause for concern??

I got email confirmation, but I also emailed them the letter.

I sent the letter via usps and didn't get a confirmation so I emailed them and they wrote me back confirming they had received it. Just write or call them.

I had emailed them about two weeks ago asking if they'd received it and hadn't gotten any response. But I just called this morning and asked and they confirmed that they had, in fact, received it. Kind of strange lack of communication but hey, I'm just glad they got it. Cornell's playing cat and mouse with me...

Wow, based on the numbers admitted today I am now convinced there was zero chance we weren't penalized for applying EA. Once they get to our apps, most of the spots are going to be filled. Ugh. I hate people who feel entitled to anything (admission, quick response times, etc) but I almost feel like I was deceived into thinking this was going to help or be neutral.

jks289 wrote:Wow, based on the numbers admitted today I am now convinced there was zero chance we weren't penalized for applying EA. Once they get to our apps, most of the spots are going to be filled. Ugh. I hate people who feel entitled to anything (admission, quick response times, etc) but I almost feel like I was deceived into thinking this was going to help or be neutral.

agreed. it sucks. but i think if you have the numbers you will ultimately get in. stay positive!

DOOM wrote:

jks289 wrote:Wow, based on the numbers admitted today I am now convinced there was zero chance we weren't penalized for applying EA. Once they get to our apps, most of the spots are going to be filled. Ugh. I hate people who feel entitled to anything (admission, quick response times, etc) but I almost feel like I was deceived into thinking this was going to help or be neutral.

agreed. it sucks. but i think if you have the numbers you will ultimately get in. stay positive!

LOL at DOOM saying "Stay positive!"

jks289 wrote:Wow, based on the numbers admitted today I am now convinced there was zero chance we weren't penalized for applying EA. Once they get to our apps, most of the spots are going to be filled. Ugh. I hate people who feel entitled to anything (admission, quick response times, etc) but I almost feel like I was deceived into thinking this was going to help or be neutral.

I agree 100%. WTF.

jks289 wrote:Wow, based on the numbers admitted today I am now convinced there was zero chance we weren't penalized for applying EA. Once they get to our apps, most of the spots are going to be filled. Ugh. I hate people who feel entitled to anything (admission, quick response times, etc) but I almost feel like I was deceived into thinking this was going to help or be neutral.

We were penalized for something, but it wasn't applying early. I saw a couple median-ish people admitted today, maybe they just really stood out for some reason. Other than that, a couple people closer to auto-admit territory got in. If someone can come up with a reason as to why it would be in Cornell's interest to reject us in favor of RD candidates they like less than us, I'd be interested to hear it.

beef wellington wrote:

jks289 wrote:Wow, based on the numbers admitted today I am now convinced there was zero chance we weren't penalized for applying EA. Once they get to our apps, most of the spots are going to be filled. Ugh. I hate people who feel entitled to anything (admission, quick response times, etc) but I almost feel like I was deceived into thinking this was going to help or be neutral.

We were penalized for something, but it wasn't applying early. I saw a couple median-ish people admitted today, maybe they just really stood out for some reason. Other than that, a couple people closer to auto-admit territory got in. If someone can come up with a reason as to why it would be in Cornell's interest to reject us in favor of RD candidates they like less than us, I'd be interested to hear it.

I think what is in Cornell's interest is to be able to see their entire field of applicants before deciding who to let in, ding, or WL. The way we are penalized is practically no one was accepted EA. Now RD applicants with comparable numbers are being accepted, while we are at the bottom of the stack. If we had sent in applications in December/January we would be in this review, at a point at which they are accepting people based on a reasonable expectation of GPA and LSAT medians. When they get to our applications, there will be fewer spots. I applied early because Cornell is one of my top choices and I thought I would be giving myself a bump, and if not a bump then certainly not hurting myself. I don't think they were transparent about their intention to be extra-selective EA, and use us essentially as a reserve. Had they been, I would have made other choices. I am not trying to bitch about it, I am just expressing frustration with myself for not understanding the position I was putting myself in, and the admissions office for not being open about the likely consequences.

jks289 wrote:

beef wellington wrote:

jks289 wrote:Wow, based on the numbers admitted today I am now convinced there was zero chance we weren't penalized for applying EA. Once they get to our apps, most of the spots are going to be filled. Ugh. I hate people who feel entitled to anything (admission, quick response times, etc) but I almost feel like I was deceived into thinking this was going to help or be neutral.

We were penalized for something, but it wasn't applying early. I saw a couple median-ish people admitted today, maybe they just really stood out for some reason. Other than that, a couple people closer to auto-admit territory got in. If someone can come up with a reason as to why it would be in Cornell's interest to reject us in favor of RD candidates they like less than us, I'd be interested to hear it.

I think what is in Cornell's interest is to be able to see their entire field of applicants before deciding who to let in, ding, or WL. The way we are penalized is practically no one was accepted EA. Now RD applicants with comparable numbers are being accepted, while we are at the bottom of the stack. If we had sent in applications in December/January we would be in this review, at a point at which they are accepting people based on a reasonable expectation of GPA and LSAT medians. When they get to our applications, there will be fewer spots. I applied early because Cornell is one of my top choices and I thought I would be giving myself a bump, and if not a bump then certainly not hurting myself. I don't think they were transparent about their intention to be extra-selective EA, and use us essentially as a reserve. Had they been, I would have made other choices. I am not trying to bitch about it, I am just expressing frustration with myself for not understanding the position I was putting myself in, and the admissions office for not being open about the likely consequences.

+1. Especially since Cornell was literally one of the first schools I applied to, specifically to meet the EA deadline. Not that I rushed pulling my application together, but if I hadn't been trying to meet the deadline, I would have had more time to perfect it... Sigh.

jks289 wrote:

beef wellington wrote:

jks289 wrote:Wow, based on the numbers admitted today I am now convinced there was zero chance we weren't penalized for applying EA. Once they get to our apps, most of the spots are going to be filled. Ugh. I hate people who feel entitled to anything (admission, quick response times, etc) but I almost feel like I was deceived into thinking this was going to help or be neutral.

We were penalized for something, but it wasn't applying early. I saw a couple median-ish people admitted today, maybe they just really stood out for some reason. Other than that, a couple people closer to auto-admit territory got in. If someone can come up with a reason as to why it would be in Cornell's interest to reject us in favor of RD candidates they like less than us, I'd be interested to hear it.

I think what is in Cornell's interest is to be able to see their entire field of applicants before deciding who to let in, ding, or WL. The way we are penalized is practically no one was accepted EA. Now RD applicants with comparable numbers are being accepted, while we are at the bottom of the stack. If we had sent in applications in December/January we would be in this review, at a point at which they are accepting people based on a reasonable expectation of GPA and LSAT medians. When they get to our applications, there will be fewer spots. I applied early because Cornell is one of my top choices and I thought I would be giving myself a bump, and if not a bump then certainly not hurting myself. I don't think they were transparent about their intention to be extra-selective EA, and use us essentially as a reserve. Had they been, I would have made other choices. I am not trying to bitch about it, I am just expressing frustration with myself for not understanding the position I am in, and the admissions office for not being open about the likely consequences.

While the timing of the decision will change from us being "at the bottom of the stack," I still see no reason that the decision itself would change. For that to be the case, they would have to be admitting people from RD that they like less than us.

beef wellington wrote:

jks289 wrote:

beef wellington wrote:

jks289 wrote:Wow, based on the numbers admitted today I am now convinced there was zero chance we weren't penalized for applying EA. Once they get to our apps, most of the spots are going to be filled. Ugh. I hate people who feel entitled to anything (admission, quick response times, etc) but I almost feel like I was deceived into thinking this was going to help or be neutral.

We were penalized for something, but it wasn't applying early. I saw a couple median-ish people admitted today, maybe they just really stood out for some reason. Other than that, a couple people closer to auto-admit territory got in. If someone can come up with a reason as to why it would be in Cornell's interest to reject us in favor of RD candidates they like less than us, I'd be interested to hear it.

I think what is in Cornell's interest is to be able to see their entire field of applicants before deciding who to let in, ding, or WL. The way we are penalized is practically no one was accepted EA. Now RD applicants with comparable numbers are being accepted, while we are at the bottom of the stack. If we had sent in applications in December/January we would be in this review, at a point at which they are accepting people based on a reasonable expectation of GPA and LSAT medians. When they get to our applications, there will be fewer spots. I applied early because Cornell is one of my top choices and I thought I would be giving myself a bump, and if not a bump then certainly not hurting myself. I don't think they were transparent about their intention to be extra-selective EA, and use us essentially as a reserve. Had they been, I would have made other choices. I am not trying to bitch about it, I am just expressing frustration with myself for not understanding the position I am in, and the admissions office for not being open about the likely consequences.

While the timing of the decision will change from us being "at the bottom of the stack," I still see no reason that the decision itself would change. For that to be the case, they would have to be admitting people from RD that they like less than us.

I understand what you're saying. I just am not convinced that adcoms have these expansive memories that include all the applications that have been placed in reserve. I think it is more likely that they now know the field and have set targets (that look to be more or less in line with last year) and will accept people as they read based on those targets. I don't think everyone, or even many people, winds up screwed. I just think it counts as a disadvantage. I feel borderline at 3.5, 168 and I was hoping for any advantage I could get.

I hear ya Draper, I think it's totally understandable to be having these types of thoughts at this point in Cornell's cycle. The way I think of it, we're in a pile somewhere marked "maybe." Adcomms don't need some crazy memory to remember there's a whole stack of us maybes over there. And they're not going to just plow through the RD maybes and start admitting RD worse than maybes without going back to give us another look. That would make them incompetent, as they wouldn't be maximizing the quality of the incoming class. I just don't see the disadvantage, I see it as neutral.

beef wellington wrote:I hear ya Draper, I think it's totally understandable to be having these types of thoughts at this point in Cornell's cycle. The way I think of it, we're in a pile somewhere marked "maybe." Adcomms don't need some crazy memory to remember there's a whole stack of us maybes over there. And they're not going to just plow through the RD maybes and start admitting RD worse than maybes without going back to give us another look. That would make them incompetent, as they wouldn't be maximizing the quality of the incoming class. I just don't see the disadvantage, I see it as neutral.

bump. +1.

beef wellington wrote:I hear ya Draper, I think it's totally understandable to be having these types of thoughts at this point in Cornell's cycle. The way I think of it, we're in a pile somewhere marked "maybe." Adcomms don't need some crazy memory to remember there's a whole stack of us maybes over there. And they're not going to just plow through the RD maybes and start admitting RD worse than maybes without going back to give us another look. That would make them incompetent, as they wouldn't be maximizing the quality of the incoming class. I just don't see the disadvantage, I see it as neutral.

I'm with Betty. Being at the top of the pile > being at the bottom of the pile. We took the initiative to get to the top of the pile; now we're at the bottom of the pile. It's not that they'll be admitting people "worse than maybe" instead of us; it's that they'll be (and have been) admitting later maybes (normal people who applied in December) before earlier maybes (us). Tiny school, few spots. I'd love to believe Cornell's trying to be as fair as possible, but we're definitely at a disadvantage.

Here's some more words of encouragement from a Cornell 1L. This was posted in the Cornell thread the day I was put on reserve. A little semi-informed speculation to keep us going through the doldrums.

mbw wrote:No, it is NOT a soft reject. I'd speculate that a 1/4 of the class were deferred - maybe more. And at least four people in my section got in off the summer waitlist as well.

I know one person in my section who got in EA who decided to attend. A couple days ago, I was wasting valuable study time looking through last year's EA thread, and many more people who ended up on the final class list were not admitted EA.

Have heart guys. I know it's depressing - I got my deferral last year the day before Christmas, and it sucked. And now, here I am still wasting valuable study time typing from Myron Taylor Hall.

beef wellington wrote:Here's some more words of encouragement from a Cornell 1L. This was posted in the Cornell thread the day I was put on reserve. A little semi-informed speculation to keep us going through the doldrums.

mbw wrote:No, it is NOT a soft reject. I'd speculate that a 1/4 of the class were deferred - maybe more. And at least four people in my section got in off the summer waitlist as well.

I know one person in my section who got in EA who decided to attend. A couple days ago, I was wasting valuable study time looking through last year's EA thread, and many more people who ended up on the final class list were not admitted EA.

Have heart guys. I know it's depressing - I got my deferral last year the day before Christmas, and it sucked. And now, here I am still wasting valuable study time typing from Myron Taylor Hall.

I can offer more anecdotal evidence to support this. Many people I know didn't hear of acceptances until March/April, and I can think of two people who were accepted veeeery late (think August). They're doing well too, so don't believe for a minute that WL has any bearing on potential or performance.

Also, good luck! Stay hopeful.

WL at Michigan today. I'm disappointed but sort of relieved since UM was always a long shot for me. My gaze has turned completely to Cornell.

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Alright it's March (well, in 30 minutes, east coast time). When are they getting to us?

August 30th