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stintez
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Re: Case Western 2010

Postby stintez » Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:55 pm

stintez wrote:Can anyone riddle me how the hell my friend got into case. He is urm but had a 148 and a 2.9 and was just taken off the WL and accepted. How in gods name does that happen. He did not even get into Fing NKU. Any answers would be appreciated.
???

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Re: Case Western 2010

Postby snowpeach06 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:57 pm

AVBucks4239 wrote:New to the thread here.

I really REALLY want to attend Case Western in the fall. I got a 152 on the September 2009 LSAT and completely bombed the February LSAT. I didn't plan on taking the test again until Case emailed me and asked if I was interested in taking the test again.

Before I replied with a "yes," I wanted to tour the law school to make sure it was really the school for me. I immediately scheduled a personal tour with the Associate Dean of Admissions and made a fairly good impression of myself. She encouraged me to take the test again and I accepted her offer.

I took the June test and got a 158 (one point below their median). My undergraduate GPA is a 3.64 (their median is around a 3.4). This will be the first time they are reviewing my application (they had it "on hold" until I was done with the LSAT). Obviously, there are a much more limited amount of seats this late in the cycle, but I had no shot to get in with a 152 so I had to take the risk.

So, what do you think my odds are of getting in?

Thanks,
AVB

PS: To all of those who have been accepted to Case--Congrats!!


In my opinion, your chances aren't as good for this coming year as they would be if you send in your app earlier - just because there are limited spots. But, that's not to say it's impossible - I think your obvious interest in the school will be really helpful to you. Good luck!
lsathelp wrote:Omg I just recieved and email of acceptance from Case. I was waitlisted a while back and retook the LSAT and increased by 10 points. I emailed Them updating my file with my new score yesterday and got accepted this morning.

Congrats! See you this fall then?

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Re: Case Western 2010

Postby CivilDisobedience » Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:58 pm

altoidz wrote:go thoreau!

My Masters Thesis barely referenced his short text on the subject (save for the small point that Thoreau coined the phrase). I actually do not care for Thoreau's piece very much. Read Abe Fortas and Howard Zinn's response to Fortas's text. Now that is entertaining (especially the latter).

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Re: Case Western 2010

Postby altoidz » Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:01 pm

CivilDisobedience wrote:
altoidz wrote:go thoreau!

My Masters Thesis barely referenced his short text on the subject (save for the small point that Thoreau coined the phrase). I actually do not care for Thoreau's piece very much. Read Abe Fortas and Howard Zinn's response to Fortas's text. Now that is entertaining (especially the latter).


i sort of like you! but only sort of for now!

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Re: Case Western 2010

Postby sapp » Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:03 pm

stintez wrote:
stintez wrote:Can anyone riddle me how the hell my friend got into case. He is urm but had a 148 and a 2.9 and was just taken off the WL and accepted. How in gods name does that happen. He did not even get into Fing NKU. Any answers would be appreciated.
???


:roll:

Your "friend" can help you answer that question better than any of us. He's the one that knows what his application file looked like.

There might be something more to his application file than just the numbers that makes him appealing to Case than what you seem to believe he is. Maybe he wrote a killer PS/LOCI or something.

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Re: Case Western 2010

Postby stintez » Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:05 pm

sapp wrote:
stintez wrote:
stintez wrote:Can anyone riddle me how the hell my friend got into case. He is urm but had a 148 and a 2.9 and was just taken off the WL and accepted. How in gods name does that happen. He did not even get into Fing NKU. Any answers would be appreciated.
???


:roll:

Your "friend" can help you answer that question better than any of us. He's the one that knows what his application file looked like.

There might be something more to his application file than just the numbers that makes him appealing to Case than what you seem to believe he is. Maybe he wrote a killer PS/LOCI or something.


True. I am happy for him and am not whining as much as I am stunned. Moreover, this gives me hope for myself. I am urm with a 2.75 and 156 so I figure why not apply.

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Re: Case Western 2010

Postby CivilDisobedience » Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:08 pm

altoidz wrote:
CivilDisobedience wrote:
altoidz wrote:go thoreau!

My Masters Thesis barely referenced his short text on the subject (save for the small point that Thoreau coined the phrase). I actually do not care for Thoreau's piece very much. Read Abe Fortas and Howard Zinn's response to Fortas's text. Now that is entertaining (especially the latter).


i sort of like you! but only sort of for now!

Does it help any bit that I think your avatar of a punching cat is very cool?

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Re: Case Western 2010

Postby sapp » Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:09 pm

stintez wrote:True. I am happy for him and am not whining as much as I am stunned. Moreover, this gives me hope for myself. I am urm with a 2.75 and 156 so I figure why not apply.


I agree! You should apply. :) Just make sure you write a killer PS. Good luck!

Tip: The consensus seems to be that Case really likes a "Why Case" essay or element to your application. The better you are able to convince them that Case is really important to you, that Case would be a great match for you and you for Case, the better your chances seem to be.

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Re: Case Western 2010

Postby stintez » Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:21 pm

sapp wrote:
stintez wrote:True. I am happy for him and am not whining as much as I am stunned. Moreover, this gives me hope for myself. I am urm with a 2.75 and 156 so I figure why not apply.


I agree! You should apply. :) Just make sure you write a killer PS. Good luck!

Tip: The consensus seems to be that Case really likes a "Why Case" essay or element to your application. The better you are able to convince them that Case is really important to you, that Case would be a great match for you and you for Case, the better your chances seem to be.


Thanks a ton for the advice. Case is defiantly my first choice, along with my biggest stretch.

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Re: Case Western 2010

Postby altoidz » Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:22 pm

CivilDisobedience wrote:
altoidz wrote:
CivilDisobedience wrote:
altoidz wrote:go thoreau!

My Masters Thesis barely referenced his short text on the subject (save for the small point that Thoreau coined the phrase). I actually do not care for Thoreau's piece very much. Read Abe Fortas and Howard Zinn's response to Fortas's text. Now that is entertaining (especially the latter).


i sort of like you! but only sort of for now!

Does it help any bit that I think your avatar of a punching cat is very cool?


yes! which one do you like more, fortas's or zinn's?

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Re: Case Western 2010

Postby lsathelp » Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:28 pm

sapp wrote:
stintez wrote:True. I am happy for him and am not whining as much as I am stunned. Moreover, this gives me hope for myself. I am urm with a 2.75 and 156 so I figure why not apply.


I agree! You should apply. :) Just make sure you write a killer PS. Good luck!

Tip: The consensus seems to be that Case really likes a "Why Case" essay or element to your application. The better you are able to convince them that Case is really important to you, that Case would be a great match for you and you for Case, the better your chances seem to be.

This is the absolute truth! If you can show just how interested you are in Case you have a great chance despite what your number say.

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Re: Case Western 2010

Postby AVBucks4239 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:42 pm

It would be a huge favor if somebody could post specific instructions (length, specific prompt, etc.) for the "Why Case?" essay.

Thanks in advance!
-AVB

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Re: Case Western 2010

Postby CivilDisobedience » Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:22 pm

altoidz wrote:
yes! which one do you like more, fortas's or zinn's?

They both have merit, of course. I argued against what Fortas says regarding civil disobedience and the law because his "definition" of civil disobedience does not show much (if any) resemblance to my categorization of civil disobedience. Zinn (RIP) 's nine points (what he calls "fallacies," though I hesitate to call them that) are a great read and with regards to the issue of violence, very insightful. As a future lawyer, I suppose I should side with Fortas, but I have a heart of a philosopher, so I cannot make that move. Though, I doubt many lawyers and followers of law would find Fortas' absolutist idea of law match up with their idea of law.


To the "Why Case" inquiry - I know that (much) earlier in this thread there were some good suggestions. I wrote about their dual degree in bioethics and health law.

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Re: Case Western 2010

Postby creamedcats » Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:11 pm

AVBucks4239 wrote:It would be a huge favor if somebody could post specific instructions (length, specific prompt, etc.) for the "Why Case?" essay.

Thanks in advance!
-AVB


"In evaluating applicant files, it is helpful for us to learn about an applicant's interests, goals, and expectations of law school. You may, if you wish, submit a supplemental statement describing your particular interest in Case Western Reserve University School of Law as it relates to your personal and professional objectives."

No other instructions were provided. I actually didn't submit one, I felt my PS covered it well enough.

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Re: Case Western 2010

Postby AVBucks4239 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:56 am

I emailed the Dean about my new LSAT score and got this reply:

XXXX XXXXXX:

Congratulations on improving your LSAT scores. Once we receive your formal scores from LSAT, your file will be completed. As all applicants were previously advised, we’re currently over-deposited, therefore at this point, applicants are either being denied or waitlisted. If waitlisted, there’s no guarantee if/when we’ll admit anyone from off our waitlist.

Sincerely,


Elaine B. Greaves, Esq.

I hope some seats open up.

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Re: Case Western 2010

Postby AVBucks4239 » Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:12 am

Any advice on how to attack my situation?

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Re: Case Western 2010

Postby creamedcats » Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:13 pm

AVBucks4239 wrote:Any advice on how to attack my situation?


I don't know how much more you can do. You retook the test and got an okay score, I'd guess you'll be among the first called if any spots open up. Stay in touch with the assistant dean and perhaps provide her with some additional reasons why Case is the best choice for you (and you for them). If you're doing something interesting this summer, you could mention that.

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Re: Case Western 2010

Postby lsathelp » Sat Jul 03, 2010 2:25 pm

Has anyone experienced any luck with a second scholarship negotiation?

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Re: Case Western 2010

Postby CivilDisobedience » Sat Jul 03, 2010 4:27 pm

Quick (but important) Scholarship Question: Most law schools give out scholarships after the first semester/year(s) of law school. I looked at Case's site and there was not information regarding these type of scholarships. Does Case offer these type of scholarships?

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Re: Case Western 2010

Postby lsathelp » Sat Jul 03, 2010 5:17 pm

CivilDisobedience wrote:Quick (but important) Scholarship Question: Most law schools give out scholarships after the first semester/year(s) of law school. I looked at Case's site and there was not information regarding these type of scholarships. Does Case offer these type of scholarships?


+1

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Re: Case Western 2010

Postby StrictlyLiable » Sat Jul 03, 2010 5:40 pm

Yeah they give tons of scholly and the GPA requirement is a 3.1 now.

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Re: Case Western 2010

Postby snowpeach06 » Sat Jul 03, 2010 6:58 pm

lsathelp wrote:Has anyone experienced any luck with a second scholarship negotiation?

With case, all you have to do is ask and tell them how much you love them, and how you are so poor that if you don't get more money, you may have to go elsewhere. It also helps to have numbers above the median.

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Re: Case Western 2010

Postby lsathelp » Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:36 pm

snowpeach06 wrote:
lsathelp wrote:Has anyone experienced any luck with a second scholarship negotiation?

With case, all you have to do is ask and tell them how much you love them, and how you are so poor that if you don't get more money, you may have to go elsewhere. It also helps to have numbers above the median.


I got an increase and in the email its says "no further increase will be considered". should i still ask for a little more? How lenient are they with asking for more money a second time? Has anyone tried this?

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Re: Case Western 2010

Postby lsathelp » Sun Jul 04, 2010 7:44 pm

vijemi wrote:
nick637 wrote:just sent my second round of scholarship negotiations to elaine. wish me luck


wow nice, good luck, she rejected my inquiry sadly.


Im interested in how this turned out.

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Re: Case Western 2010

Postby thexfactor » Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:32 am

just curious.. how did you guys negotiate? Like how did you start? Did you just call and ask?




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