yellowfin wrote: katjust wrote: oberlin08 wrote:
yellowfin wrote:Definitely liked the law school. Totally sold on Portland. Just wondering why the law school has to be outside of Portland. Most of the current students I talked to do not live downtown. Some do, but they deal with the commute.
Lewis & Clark does have a shuttle that picks up at Pioneer Square downtown, but do I want to have to make that commute 5 days a week? If L&C law were downtown, I'd have already sent in my deposit. It's Portland that's keeping the school in the mix. Does the awesomeness of Portland make up for the remote/suburban location of the school?
How long does the commute take by car? Does anyone know?
Technically the law school is in Portland. If the law school was downtown it would still be a commuter school. PSU is downtown and is definitely considered a commuter school. Most people don't want to live downtown, they want to live in SE or elsewhere. Also, it would be an ugly school if it were downtown (in fact that's where it used to be). Once again, look at PSU.
Without traffic it takes about 10-15 minutes by car from downtown (that's if you are actually in downtown when you start).
I'll give you that the campus is beautiful in a secluded, foresty sort of way. I thought downtown Portland was extremely nice. It's about the cleanest big city I've ever seen. The Pearl district is really nice too, although probably prohibitively expensive. I think there's a reason the law school directed everyone to stay downtown rather than in the SE. I wish the law school would have done a better job a showing the SE, even just having the bus drive through areas where students live in the SE would have been great.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the SE is suburban rather than urban. Meaning you likely need a car to get around and you can't walk to bars and restaurants quite as easily as you can if you're downtown.
And I walked near PSU in the South Park Blocks along SW Park Ave. I though it looked like a great place to live near, but maybe that's just me. I wouldn't want to commute to there, though.
Just to clear up the geography, the law school is in SW. SE is the area across the river and a little north from the school. SW is completely suburban. You can find some of the cheapest places in SW. There aren't too many bars and restaurants until you get closer to South Waterfront and John's Landing.
SE is a really nice trendy area, but there's no direct way to get from there to the law school on public transit without going through downtown. That turns it into a really long commute.
The Pearl district is pretty expensive, most studio/1BR apartments run $700-1000/month. It's possible to find something cheaper, but not easy. For people who love to be close to downtown the NW district (Nob Hill, 23rd, Goose Hollow) has a few trendy old houses and apartments with reasonable rent. The MAX and trolley lines service all of those neighborhoods and can get you downtown in about 5 minutes. Walking takes maybe 10-15 minutes depending on the exact location. There's some affordable housing near PSU too, which works out to about the same commute to downtown and the school as near-in NW.
There is a shuttle that goes from Pioneer Square near Nordstroms to the law school and undergrad campus. You can find the schedule for that on the undergrad website.