Kronk wrote:So we can all agree L.A. is the best big city, then?
Also, Muni/BART are definitely cleaner than MTA in NYC, but I actually think downtown NYC is cleaner than downtown SF. The thing is, no one really hangs out in downtown SF. It's where people work and there are good happy hour bars, but no one actually lives there. The awesome neighborhoods in SF (Pac Heights, Nob Hill, Russian Hill, Lower Haight, Hayes Valley, etc.) are all cleaner than NYC.
I think SF and NYC are the two best cities in America, and I'm not sure what order to put them in.