Re: IN AT COLUMBIA lawl skool!!!!!!
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:15 pm
Were the letters dated April 1st?
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I think they sent all of those by snail mail yesterday. So you'll probably get it tomorrow or Monday.julesm2200 wrote:anyone get their award from CLS who was NOT facing the NYU deadline (and informed CLS of the deadline)?
CLS and NYU both alert you if they give you nothing. Send them the Chicago offer before their decision.MTC87 wrote:no award letter from CLS or NYU, but i just got one for $45k from chicago. should i send notice of this CLS/NYU, or wait till i hear from them? will i hear at all if they decide not to give me anything?
this happened to me as well. I live in Manhattan so I should find out today if my award notice went out with the first batch. if not, ill send them my chicago award to try to leverage. Will also do this if I get home today and they've given me $0. hahaMTC87 wrote:no award letter from CLS or NYU, but i just got one for $45k from chicago. should i send notice of this CLS/NYU, or wait till i hear from them? will i hear at all if they decide not to give me anything?
I was in a similar position where NYU offered me 50K and I thought I could maybe get a similar or better offer from Columbia by not sending them my NYU offer. Big mistake, as I got nothing from them. I'm pretty sure Columbia considers themselves better than NYU, but still, having sent that letter could have really helped me. Now I have to resort to last-minute tactics to see if they change their minds. I say send it; these are top-6 schools, so don't take receiving money from them for granted unless you have HYS numbers.Series70 wrote:Nothing in the mail today here in Brooklyn. I'm in the same situation, with the 45k offer from Chicago. Would it really be best to tell NYU and CLS about Chicago BEFORE receiving their initial offers? I'm just worried that NYU might be considering giving me, say, 50k or something, and that playing my Chicago hand too quickly could end up hurting me. Any thoughts?
So you told Columbia about the NYU offer after they gave you nothing, and they still didn't budge? I thought that, even if I got a $0 message from CLS, letting them know about Chicago might have made them reconsider; but are all offers final? (I appreciate your input, as I really don't have a clue.) Thanks!muahawhawhaw wrote: I was in a similar position where NYU offered me 50K and I thought I could maybe get a similar or better offer from Columbia by not sending them my NYU offer. Big mistake, as I got nothing from them. I'm pretty sure Columbia considers themselves better than NYU, but still, having sent that letter could have really helped me. Now I have to resort to last-minute tactics to see if they change their minds. I say send it; these are top-6 schools, so don't take receiving money from them for granted unless you have HYS numbers.
Nothing is final until you accept or decline their offer. In past years, they've occasionally budged when someone negotiates after an initial offer was made. But it's obviously not a good sign if they've assessed the strength of your position and decided that you merit $0 in aid.Series70 wrote:So you told Columbia about the NYU offer after they gave you nothing, and they still didn't budge? I thought that, even if I got a $0 message from CLS, letting them know about Chicago might have made them reconsider; but are all offers final? (I appreciate your input, as I really don't have a clue.) Thanks!muahawhawhaw wrote: I was in a similar position where NYU offered me 50K and I thought I could maybe get a similar or better offer from Columbia by not sending them my NYU offer. Big mistake, as I got nothing from them. I'm pretty sure Columbia considers themselves better than NYU, but still, having sent that letter could have really helped me. Now I have to resort to last-minute tactics to see if they change their minds. I say send it; these are top-6 schools, so don't take receiving money from them for granted unless you have HYS numbers.
Pretty sure it's best to wait, especially if you expect your award soon and will have time to negotiate.Series70 wrote:Nothing in the mail today here in Brooklyn. I'm in the same situation, with the 45k offer from Chicago. Would it really be best to tell NYU and CLS about Chicago BEFORE receiving their initial offers? I'm just worried that NYU might be considering giving me, say, 50k or something, and that playing my Chicago hand too quickly could end up hurting me. Any thoughts?
Not quite. I sent them an e-mail yesterday and will call if I don't get a response by Monday, so we'll see in the next few days (I got an extension on the NYU deadline to the 7th). I also agree with Dignan- I'm assuming I'll really have to put some effort into getting Columbia to budge.Series70 wrote:So you told Columbia about the NYU offer after they gave you nothing, and they still didn't budge? I thought that, even if I got a $0 message from CLS, letting them know about Chicago might have made them reconsider; but are all offers final? (I appreciate your input, as I really don't have a clue.) Thanks!muahawhawhaw wrote: I was in a similar position where NYU offered me 50K and I thought I could maybe get a similar or better offer from Columbia by not sending them my NYU offer. Big mistake, as I got nothing from them. I'm pretty sure Columbia considers themselves better than NYU, but still, having sent that letter could have really helped me. Now I have to resort to last-minute tactics to see if they change their minds. I say send it; these are top-6 schools, so don't take receiving money from them for granted unless you have HYS numbers.
yeah this makes sense to me if there is room for negotiation after the final offer. i think i'll wait for notice from nyu/cls before telling them about the chicago offer. just to hedge against the off chance that nyu/cls where originally going to offer more than chicago, or decide that they only need to do a XX% match of chicago or something.Dignan wrote:Nothing is final until you accept or decline their offer. In past years, they've occasionally budged when someone negotiates after an initial offer was made. But it's obviously not a good sign if they've assessed the strength of your position and decided that you merit $0 in aid.Series70 wrote:So you told Columbia about the NYU offer after they gave you nothing, and they still didn't budge? I thought that, even if I got a $0 message from CLS, letting them know about Chicago might have made them reconsider; but are all offers final? (I appreciate your input, as I really don't have a clue.) Thanks!muahawhawhaw wrote: I was in a similar position where NYU offered me 50K and I thought I could maybe get a similar or better offer from Columbia by not sending them my NYU offer. Big mistake, as I got nothing from them. I'm pretty sure Columbia considers themselves better than NYU, but still, having sent that letter could have really helped me. Now I have to resort to last-minute tactics to see if they change their minds. I say send it; these are top-6 schools, so don't take receiving money from them for granted unless you have HYS numbers.
I'm thinking of letting CLS know about my Berkeley offer. I'm willing to go an additional $50K in debt to go to CLS, but not an additional $100K. Maybe I'll just be blunt and tell CLS that. They'll probably laugh it off, but it can't hurt.
is this need-based or merit?Series70 wrote:My letter ended up arriving on Saturday. 25k over three years! I'm pretty happy about it, as that is pretty much the best I could hope for, given what other people have been reporting. I guess it's still worth contacting them and mentioning the 45k from Chicago, though, right? Just to see if they budge at all? (I have another question for financial aid anyway, so I might as well mention the offer in the same email.)
nvm, dumb question, i forgot CLS doesnt give merit unless its hamilton/butleririe wrote:is this need-based or merit?Series70 wrote:My letter ended up arriving on Saturday. 25k over three years! I'm pretty happy about it, as that is pretty much the best I could hope for, given what other people have been reporting. I guess it's still worth contacting them and mentioning the 45k from Chicago, though, right? Just to see if they budge at all? (I have another question for financial aid anyway, so I might as well mention the offer in the same email.)
I think they'd bump it up to $30-35k, maybe a little more, if you show them the $45k at Chicago.Series70 wrote:My letter ended up arriving on Saturday. 25k over three years! I'm pretty happy about it, as that is pretty much the best I could hope for, given what other people have been reporting. I guess it's still worth contacting them and mentioning the 45k from Chicago, though, right? Just to see if they budge at all? (I have another question for financial aid anyway, so I might as well mention the offer in the same email.)