Dignan wrote: blue5385 wrote: Dignan wrote:
blue5385 wrote:This may seem like a dumb question on the surface, but do they ever award scholarships to people who didn't fill out the forms (other than a H or B)?
Based on what I've read, CLS will not award aid (besides Hamiltons and Butlers) until the admitted student has submitted the required paperwork. Not all schools are like this, but CLS is apparently a stickler for completed forms and need access applications.
That makes sense. So is all their non H/B-aid strictly need based? It seems like it based on their insistence that students submit all their parents' information to the financial aid office, but I wasn't sure.
CLS claims that all of their non H/B aid is strictly need based. In past years, however, some have questioned whether this is really true. If you dig up last year's CLS thread, and if you look at LSN, you'll see that there seems to be some award bias (though it's hard to tell) towards those with higher LSAT scores. Unless those with 174+ LSAT scores are, on a whole, more financially needy than those with lower LSAT scores, it does seem like CLS takes merit factors into consideration, at least a bit. But no one seems to know for certain.
well, i think its not even a question of needy people with higher lsats being favoured over needy people with lower lsats. instead, from last year it seems that often its people who clearly didn't qualify for aid getting grants clearly based on merit. that is to say, its not just that merit seems to be used in allocating financial aid, rather, financial aid often seems to be purely window dressing on merit grants.
Clearly, a very large percentage of columbia students come from wealthy or upper middle class professional families with parents making over 200k combined a year with substantial equity; its not as if Ivy schools draw evenly from all socioeconomic groups. However, if you look at lsn in previous years, pretty much every nyu merit award recipient except for 2 or 3 exceptions got money from Columbia; does anyone honestl believe that all of these people actually have demonstrable financial need? I'm sure there are tons of children of doctors, lawyers, bankers at cls with 30k grants etc. If that weren't the case columbia would leave itself wide open to losing the top 1/3 of its class to chicago and nyu.