Villanova 2010

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Re: Villanova 2010

Postby Onion » Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:32 pm

Does Villanova have LRAP? I just called and they were speaking to me like I was making this kinda stuff up, but I feel like the person I was speaking to may not have understood what I was asking about... Anybody know?

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Re: Villanova 2010

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Re: Villanova 2010

Postby jkc939 » Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:24 pm

sbs42 wrote:
jkc939 wrote:Just in case people are interested, my visit to Villanova was great. Everyone was cool, the building was awesome and the area is nice. I got the sense that the students are pretty cohesive and the professors are helpful. I also really like the idea of off-campus housing where you still can be around a lot of other law school students, and having the bars real close. I'm hoping to negotiate a little bigger scholarship but I am definitely leaning towards attending in the fall.


If you don't mind my asking, what kind of scholarship did you get and when did you receive it? I've been waiting on that info forever and I finally just caved and e-mailed them.


I was offered a 10 k/year merit scholarship, renewable if I can maintain a 3.25. I received it on March 1st, which was a little more than a month after I found out I was accepted. I also have an outstanding e-mail to the financial aid office in the hopes that they will give me a little more, but after reading some of these posts I am not sure how likely that is.

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Re: Villanova 2010

Postby Onion » Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:46 pm

Is there an ASD for Villanova? I was accepted but did not get any info about one.

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Re: Villanova 2010

Postby jlnoa0915 » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:09 pm

Onion wrote:Is there an ASD for Villanova? I was accepted but did not get any info about one.


They have the accepted student open house on April 10th, you need to rsvp for it by April 1.

Info is on their website and at their facebook page
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=3 ... 703&ref=mf

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Re: Villanova 2010

Postby Onion » Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:54 pm

jlnoa0915 wrote:
Onion wrote:Is there an ASD for Villanova? I was accepted but did not get any info about one.


They have the accepted student open house on April 10th, you need to rsvp for it by April 1.

Info is on their website and at their facebook page
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=3 ... 703&ref=mf


How did you find out about this? Do I have to put a seat deposit down to RSVP?

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Re: Villanova 2010

Postby stayway » Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:48 pm

villanova to break top 50 or 60 in new rankings?

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Re: Villanova 2010

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Re: Villanova 2010

Postby jbarl1 » Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:54 pm

dvd wrote:
nooyyllib wrote:villanova to break top 50 or 60 in new rankings?


no way


+1

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Re: Villanova 2010

Postby beach_terror » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:03 pm

Doesn't USNWR love new buildings?

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Re: Villanova 2010

Postby FunkyJD » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:41 pm

FWIW, which of these schools between 45. and 61. is Villanova appreciably worse than?

45t. Tulane, WCL, Colorado, Utah
49t. SMU, Dozo
51. Florida
52t. FSU, Cincy, UConn
55t. ASU, Case Western, Pepperdine, Kentucky
59t. Houston, Tennessee
61t. BLS, Lewis & Clark, Villanova, USD

I could see them moving up into the mid- or even low-50s, at least in theory. They had great NLJ250 placement in '09 for a school of their rank. Will that help their rep score?

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Re: Villanova 2010

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Re: Villanova 2010

Postby stayway » Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:40 am

hopefully they extend the deposit deadline for me.

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Re: Villanova 2010

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Re: Villanova 2010

Postby FunkyJD » Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:15 am

dvd wrote:
lawbreaker wrote:
dvd wrote:Certainly SMU and Cardozo.

How so?

I met with the assistant dean of admissions at nova last week and had this conversation with him. He said money spent per student is incorporated in the rankings so that might move Nova up. However, that really just shows how arbitrary the ratings are to begin with, at least to some degree.


Job placement and starting salaries in their respective regions, for one.

In terms of NLJ250 job placement for '09:

#49 SMU (23%) > #49 Cardozo (20.1%) > #55 Houston (18.2) > #61 Villanova (16.7) > #45 WCL (15.1) > the rest of the schools not listed ranking 45-61.

Don't have stats on starting salaries handy, but I'd like to believe that there's a relationship between biglaw placement rates and starting salaries. No idea how these schools relate in terms of expenditures per student. But with this limited information, the idea that Nova could move up into the mid-50s doesn't seem crazy. But yes, who the hell knows.

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Re: Villanova 2010

Postby dvd » Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:21 am

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Re: Villanova 2010

Postby FunkyJD » Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:25 am

dvd wrote:
FunkyJD wrote:In terms of NLJ250 job placement for '09:

#49 SMU (23%) > #49 Cardozo (20.1%) > #55 Houston (18.2) > #61 Villanova (16.7) > #45 WCL (15.1) > the rest of the schools not listed ranking 45-61.
Don't have stats on starting salaries handy, but I'd like to believe that there's a relationship between biglaw placement rates and starting salaries. No idea how these schools relate in terms of expenditures per student. But with this limited information, the idea that Nova could move up into the mid-50s doesn't seem crazy. But yes, who the hell knows.


Point taken, but really, do rankings matter all that much for Nova, seeing as it and the other schools discussed here are all "regional." Really you just have to pick the best school you get into, in the region you want to work, that gives you the most money.

Nope, their ranking doesn't really matter. All of this is academic, good for conversation. Villanova's a fine school, and you'd be crazy to turn them down just because of their rank, if you want to work in the Mid-Atlantic. I'm seriously considering Nova.

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Re: Villanova 2010

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Re: Villanova 2010

Postby FunkyJD » Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:18 am

dvd wrote:What other schools are people looking at?

Pitt. Emory. UNC. Other schools not listed, if accepted.

Maybe I'll decide based on the catchy-ness of a given city's newsradio jingle. Jingle for KYW in Philly is catchy.

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Re: Villanova 2010

Postby stayway » Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:16 am

Ok, so i guess the deadline extension won't work. too much work (at least for villanova).

making an unofficial visit tomorrow (driving around the area, visiting the city, walking around the building, etc).

I'm looking between Pitt and Nova. Only way Pitt would win me over is the need-based grants. The gradplus loans are ridiculous.

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Re: Villanova 2010

Postby Burger in a can » Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:38 am

FWIW, Yale is ranked 18th in the NLJ250 Placement list. I guess by the criteria you guys are using, we should be prepared to see an epic drop for Yale- possibly out of the T14!!! :roll:

(I am only be sarcastic and rude because I think that judging the value of a law school solely upon its BIGLAW!!!! placement is gross. Also, Villanova's admissions office sucks ass.)

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Re: Villanova 2010

Postby FunkyJD » Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:42 am

Burger in a can wrote:FWIW, Yale is ranked 18th in the NLJ250 Placement list. I guess by the criteria you guys are using, we should be prepared to see an epic drop for Yale- possibly out of the T14!!! :roll:

(I am only be sarcastic and rude because I think that judging the value of a law school solely upon its BIGLAW!!!! placement is gross. Also, Villanova's admissions office sucks ass.)

Then again, you'd be an idiot to not see Yale as a special case, and in no way comparable to the schools we've discussed.

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Re: Villanova 2010

Postby mikeyp » Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:54 am

Burger in a can wrote:(...Also, Villanova's admissions office sucks ass.)

how so?

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Re: Villanova 2010

Postby FunkyJD » Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:56 am

mikeyp wrote:
Burger in a can wrote:(...Also, Villanova's admissions office sucks ass.)

how so?

+1. I personally think the opposite, but your mileage may vary.

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Re: Villanova 2010

Postby mikeyp » Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:05 am

FunkyJD wrote:
mikeyp wrote:
Burger in a can wrote:(...Also, Villanova's admissions office sucks ass.)

how so?

+1. I personally think the opposite, but your mileage may vary.

opposite of burger in a can?




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