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Re: Wake Forest 2010

Postby traehekat » Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:26 pm

JayCole wrote:Anyone else go to Committee Review on 1/20? If so, have you gotten a decision since then?


I went into Administrative Review on 1/20, is there a difference?

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Re: Wake Forest 2010

Postby 84Sunbird2000 » Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:55 pm

The difference between Mason and Wake is negligble anyways. It's not as if an employer is going to look at your resume and a GM graduate and throw yours out. Plus, GM is more for DC and Virginia, and Wake is more NC/SE. Wake, if anything, has more name recognition and (because it has traditionally been ranked higher) probably still has more cache for the slightly older people who would actually hire you.

This is all conjecture, but there IS a big difference in setting. Wake's is, IMHO, a much better setting than GM Law(which is basically in the middle of a giant parking lot in a semi-Urban area).

Also, my Wake file moved to review, which is why I originally came. Hopefully I'll know my decision by the end of the week!

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Re: Wake Forest 2010

Postby mudbug25 » Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:03 pm

Any idea when scholly info might become available to those of us admitted last week? Hopefully it's not too long.

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Re: Wake Forest 2010

Postby moandersen » Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:19 pm

mudbug25 wrote:Any idea when scholly info might become available to those of us admitted last week? Hopefully it's not too long.



looking at when the last batch of acceptances came out, I seems like those admitted received their scholarship info roughly two weeks later.

Im still confounded (in a good way) how quickly I was accepted at WF. I applied and was admitted in a two week span. My numbers are ok, but I was honestly hoping for a waitlist. Im now praying some some $ so that I dont have to weigh the opportunity costs of going for sticker.

I also find it interesting that WF has yet to dole out waitlist/rejections.....

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Re: Wake Forest 2010

Postby 84Sunbird2000 » Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:28 pm

ntzsch wrote:
moandersen wrote:
mudbug25 wrote:Any idea when scholly info might become available to those of us admitted last week? Hopefully it's not too long.



looking at when the last batch of acceptances came out, I seems like those admitted received their scholarship info roughly two weeks later.

Im still confounded (in a good way) how quickly I was accepted at WF. I applied and was admitted in a two week span. My numbers are ok, but I was honestly hoping for a waitlist. Im now praying some some $ so that I dont have to weigh the opportunity costs of going for sticker.

I also find it interesting that WF has yet to dole out waitlist/rejections.....



you should get 18K. 164 seems to be the non-URM scholly cut-off.

my observations are:

164+/3.0+ : 18K
164/3.7ish+ : 25K
165+/3.7+ : 28K


I hope this analysis is right (166/3.75), though I hope to go and visit and try to finagle even more, since it seems (from TLS posts) that visiting the campus is key to 3/4-full scholarships.

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Re: Wake Forest 2010

Postby moandersen » Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:35 pm

ntzsch wrote:
kwhitegocubs wrote:
I hope this analysis is right (166/3.75), though I hope to go and visit and try to finagle even more, since it seems (from TLS posts) that visiting the campus is key to 3/4-full scholarships.


you will get some cake.

i think visiting will help (couldn't hurt) , but i dont think it is essential at all.


i like your analysis, im visiting in march, and i like cake.

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Re: Wake Forest 2010

Postby S de Garmeaux » Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:38 pm

ntzsch wrote:you will get some cake. (ie, have to give less cake to Wake). Funny how a 25K scholly seems so huge, but you still have to pay 33K for the degree. really not all that bad, tho.

i think visiting will help (couldn't hurt) , but i dont think it is essential at all.


approx 75K youre not paying though

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Re: Wake Forest 2010

Postby 84Sunbird2000 » Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:42 pm

sdegarmo wrote:
ntzsch wrote:you will get some cake. (ie, have to give less cake to Wake). Funny how a 25K scholly seems so huge, but you still have to pay 33K for the degree. really not all that bad, tho.

i think visiting will help (couldn't hurt) , but i dont think it is essential at all.


approx 75K youre not paying though


No, 33K a year. Tuition is only about 35k, BUT they estimate living expenses at 20k. Assuming a yearly hike, 37k plus 21k would be 58k. 58-25=33. I.e. still out 100k at the end of three years. Living frugally, you might swing it at 60k. Living frugally plus Research Assistant or part-time job, maybe only out 30k.

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Re: Wake Forest 2010

Postby Yellowcard » Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:56 pm

Does someone from Wake Forest call you if you are accepted or is it via mail/e-mail?

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Re: Wake Forest 2010

Postby S de Garmeaux » Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:56 pm

kwhitegocubs wrote:
sdegarmo wrote:
ntzsch wrote:you will get some cake. (ie, have to give less cake to Wake). Funny how a 25K scholly seems so huge, but you still have to pay 33K for the degree. really not all that bad, tho.

i think visiting will help (couldn't hurt) , but i dont think it is essential at all.


approx 75K youre not paying though


No, 33K a year. Tuition is only about 35k, BUT they estimate living expenses at 20k. Assuming a yearly hike, 37k plus 21k would be 58k. 58-25=33. I.e. still out 100k at the end of three years. Living frugally, you might swing it at 60k. Living frugally plus Research Assistant or part-time job, maybe only out 30k.


I'm extremely wary of the COL being 20k, even though it is Wake themselves making the estimate. It could be that they factor in Dorm prices and assume students to be on a university meal plan, which is typically more costly than bargain hunting yourself.

Also, being that I'm from CA where the COL in LA is ~20k, i find it extremely hard to believe that W-S is anywhere near that.

I also found this, but can't speak to its accuaracy. http://swz.salary.com/costoflivingwizard/layoutscripts/coll_result.asp?presentsalary=20000&presenthomemetrocode=98&presentworkmetrocode=98&newhomemetrocode=197&newworkmetrocode=197&currentlocation=98&newlocation=197&x=37&y=15

EDIT: in the above link, i use $20,000/yr as base salary

I know it sounds rediculous to go against what Wake says about their own COL, but there is no way its as expensive to live in W-S as it is to live in Los Angeles
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Re: Wake Forest 2010

Postby jlnoa0915 » Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:56 pm

Yellowcard wrote:Does someone from Wake Forest call you if you are accepted or is it via mail/e-mail?

I didn't receive a call, was emailed and through the status checker.

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Re: Wake Forest 2010

Postby missvik218 » Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:10 pm

ntzsch wrote:HAHA, i just re-did my math. it looks like i'll be living large next year! i was basing the 20K figure not only on what Wake says, but on what it cost for me to live in NC now. I failed to realize that that # included my UG tuition.

15K seems reasonable.

+1 - the 20k number that Wake gives is ridiculous - it costs NO WHERE near as much to live in Winston Salem as it does to live in LA or Miami (USC, UCLA, and UM all give about 20k for COL).

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Re: Wake Forest 2010

Postby 84Sunbird2000 » Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:10 pm

sdegarmo wrote:
I'm extremely wary of the COL being 20k, even though it is Wake themselves making the estimate. It could be that they factor in Dorm prices and assume students to be on a university meal plan, which is typically more costly than bargain hunting yourself.

Also, being that I'm from CA where the COL in LA is ~20k, i find it extremely hard to believe that W-S is anywhere near that.

I also found this, but can't speak to its accuaracy. http://swz.salary.com/costoflivingwizard/layoutscripts/coll_result.asp?presentsalary=20000&presenthomemetrocode=98&presentworkmetrocode=98&newhomemetrocode=197&newworkmetrocode=197&currentlocation=98&newlocation=197&x=37&y=15

EDIT: in the above link, i use $20,000/yr as base salary

I know it sounds rediculous to go against what Wake says about their own COL, but there is no way its as expensive to live in W-S as it is to live in Los Angeles


That's why I estimated a lower cost for frugal living. I mean, they estimate about $930/month for room/board/utils, and I'd have to guess you could do a lot better.

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It looks like an absolute abundance of $350-$500 apartments. Some are 2BD, meaning you could pay $225 between roommates. So with $150/month for food (that's do-able) and maybe $150 for utilities (some include most utils/cable), you could get by for $500-$800 I'd bet, meaning Wake is overestimating by maybe 33%. If this holds true across their estimate, then COL is more like 13-14k.

SO, that'd be about 70-80k debt on that model.

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Re: Wake Forest 2010

Postby S de Garmeaux » Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:11 pm

ntzsch wrote:HAHA, i just re-did my math. it looks like i'll be living large next year! i was basing the 20K figure not only on what Wake says, but on what it cost for me to live in NC now. I failed to realize that that # included my UG tuition.

15K seems reasonable.



even still, that link lists it ~11,500 and Portland, OR (Wake and L&C kind of tied for me right now) at ~15,100. I take most COL averages to refer to the less bargain savvy anyway.

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Re: Wake Forest 2010

Postby missvik218 » Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:18 pm

Also - UNC gives $16,626 for COL. I think I'll be calculating COL at 16k to be safe at Wake.

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Re: Wake Forest 2010

Postby 84Sunbird2000 » Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:18 pm

Well, if they have an Aldi's in WS, I think I could get by for $75/month on food. I'd never heard of Cheerwine, but it looks like I'd have to try it just to understand.

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Re: Wake Forest 2010

Postby S de Garmeaux » Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:19 pm

kwhitegocubs wrote:



damn $425 for a 1 bedroom apartment??? I pay $500 to share a room in a 3BR Duplex in which all rooms are shared (Total Rent $3000/mo). ive never had enough money to afford my own room here, not even when i was on my parent's $

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Re: Wake Forest 2010

Postby tstyler98 » Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:27 pm

For those who attended the Open House last Friday (1/29), did you receive an e-mail with information (ie. agenda) beforehand? If so, when did you receive it?

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Re: Wake Forest 2010

Postby kalvano » Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:27 pm

W-S seems awesome. It looks like I can rent a house with a yard for around $1000 - $1200, which is much better than some of my other choices.

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Re: Wake Forest 2010

Postby 84Sunbird2000 » Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:28 pm

sdegarmo wrote:
kwhitegocubs wrote:



damn $425 for a 1 bedroom apartment??? I pay $500 to share a room in a 3BR Duplex in which all rooms are shared (Total Rent $3000/mo). ive never had enough money to afford my own room here, not even when i was on my parent's $


Where do you live? Jewel City, Secret Rich Person Land?

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Re: Wake Forest 2010

Postby S de Garmeaux » Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:30 pm

kwhitegocubs wrote:
sdegarmo wrote:
kwhitegocubs wrote:



damn $425 for a 1 bedroom apartment??? I pay $500 to share a room in a 3BR Duplex in which all rooms are shared (Total Rent $3000/mo). ive never had enough money to afford my own room here, not even when i was on my parent's $


Where do you live? Jewel City, Secret Rich Person Land?


about an hour north of Los Angeles. If i wanted to live IN the city of LA, i would be paying upwards of 800 to share a room that is much smaller than mine, possibly with no living room. My place is a relative bargain compared to the area.

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Re: Wake Forest 2010

Postby makingasnack » Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:34 pm

Well, if they have an Aldi's in WS, I think I could get by for $75/month on food. I'd never heard of Cheerwine, but it looks like I'd have to try it just to understand


You poor, poor soul. You have not yet experienced life.

My wife and I pretty much want to go to either Wake or UNC solely for the fact that North Carolina has Cheerwine & Sun Drop. Oh, and freakin' Bojangles. Florida sucks. There isn't even a Jack in the Box here. WTF? Oh, and yeah, no Aldi's either.

(No, my reasons for choosing law schools are not based on shallow criteria).

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Re: Wake Forest 2010

Postby S de Garmeaux » Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:44 pm

makingasnack wrote:
Well, if they have an Aldi's in WS, I think I could get by for $75/month on food. I'd never heard of Cheerwine, but it looks like I'd have to try it just to understand


You poor, poor soul. You have not yet experienced life.

My wife and I pretty much want to go to either Wake or UNC solely for the fact that North Carolina has Cheerwine & Sun Drop. Oh, and freakin' Bojangles. Florida sucks. There isn't even a Jack in the Box here. WTF? Oh, and yeah, no Aldi's either.

(No, my reasons for choosing law schools are not based on shallow criteria).


never had it, was about to post that i dont drink soda anymore, but then read that Cheerwine uses cane sugar instead of High Fructose Corn syrup, which is pretty darn kiewl

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Re: Wake Forest 2010

Postby missvik218 » Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:47 pm

makingasnack wrote:You poor, poor soul. You have not yet experienced life.

My wife and I pretty much want to go to either Wake or UNC solely for the fact that North Carolina has Cheerwine & Sun Drop. Oh, and freakin' Bojangles. Florida sucks. There isn't even a Jack in the Box here. WTF? Oh, and yeah, no Aldi's either.

(No, my reasons for choosing law schools are not based on shallow criteria).

+1 ... couldn't love anything more than Cheerwine and Bojangles!!! There is one on the way to my brother's house from the airport in Charlotte, we stop EVERYTIME I fly in or out.

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Re: Wake Forest 2010

Postby kalvano » Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:52 pm

sdegarmo wrote:Cheerwine uses cane sugar instead of High Fructose Corn syrup, which is pretty darn kiewl



Yes, real Dr. Pepper uses that, and it rules.




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