im_blue wrote:ctaylor21 wrote:
There are few things I took away from the day:
1. The faculty is top notch (and students have unparalleled access to them).
2. The students are smart and genuinely nice people who I'd like to be around.
3. The school will be working tirelessly to place students in desirably externships, clerkships and jobs upon graduation since the success of the first few classes will set the pace for the school. I would go as far as saying that job prospects may be better than peer schools due to this.
4. There is a unique sense of community and pioneering spirit that is palpable. I'm sure this exists elsewhere, but after today I feel ready to jump right in and take part in what could be the birth of an exceptional law school and community.
5. The newness factor, although a bit scary, may be much more positive then negative.
At this point I am trying to come up with scenarios in which I won't attend Irvine but Im having trouble.
To play devil's advocate:
1, 2, and 4 have nothing to do with getting jobs, which ought to be the primary consideration for law school.
3) I'm not sure which schools you consider to be their peers (T14? T25? T50?), but every school has experienced career services offices that work tirelessly as well. The bottom line is that good law schools will place well if the economy is doing well, not because of their CSO's efforts.
5) Given that law school placement is almost entirely based on reputation, being a new school is usually a huge negative. If UCI debuts in the T50 as its first ranking, it will be the first school to do so.
#1 may actually have something to do with getting jobs. These faculty are, from what I understand, people who are well established in legal academia and undoubtedly have valuable connections at their previous institutions. Students who want to pursue teaching careers in law might be at an advantage with access to such faculty, no?
I also wouldn't be inclined to think that these professors have been living in a professional vacuum their entire working lives, and thus *might* be willing to help students find jobs through personal connections at law firms, in courts, etc.
Your point no. 5 is well taken, but I just can't help but think that the fact it's a UC brings advantages a private start-up wouldn't have. California has no problem spending itself into oblivion, and if it's going to do so for the sake of UCI then I wouldn't count debuting in the top 50 out.
Incidentally they should change the name to UCNB (Newport Beach), and tap into all that snobby 949 USC-obsessed donor money. Just putting that out there, haha.