ViP wrote:If you're seriously considering Irvine, which schools are you considering foregoing (whether or not you've been accepted to Irvine, yet)?
Is there something specific that gives you confidence that Irvine would be a better decision than other schools you've been accepted to?
This is back from page 8... (somebody was denigrating UCI, hence the defensive tone).
Between the 15-30 rankings it's almost all freezing cold schools (want to go to Indiana? Illinois? Iowa?) or schools in the South (want some humidity? how about Vanderbilt? UNC? or Alabama?). This is just weather -- I'm just getting started.
UC Irvine's faculty is AMAZING. Have you any idea who teaches there? Talk to me when you're struggling through Conlaw and you have to consult your Chemerinsky. Dean Chemerinsky wrote it. UC Irvine's dean. The same one UC Irvine students have coffee with a couple times a month. They have the opportunity to ask him questions *in person*.
There's a value add in studying with the UC Irvine faculty - and people will pay for that quality. Elizabeth Loftus anyone? She was the memory expert in the Oliver North trial and Rodney King trial (formerly of UW). Then there's Professors Cohen for Econ., Moran for Torts (25 years at Boalt Hall), Weinstein for lawyering skills (LA & NY Times), Burk for IP (formerly at UMN), Menkel-Meadow for CivPro (stolen from Georgetown), Fisk (stolen from Duke, formerly at USC).... and on and on. Dean Ortiz (stolen from Boalt Hall). Overall, UC Irvine faculty are ranked in the top 10 of faculty for scholarly impact.
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These people have a record.
Then, you have the Irvine legal community coming out in support of UC Irvine even ITE. Not only does UC Irvine have more employers committed to coming on campus for their OCI *than they have students*, but there is a 3:1 student/faculty ratio. How much easier is it going to be for those students to get personal attention and excellent references? It's certainly not 3 deep at office hours. How hard are the faculty and career services staff going to work to get those students the best clerkships and internships possible? What other school matches you with 2 established mentors in the legal community as a 1L? Or ever?
The Orange County legal community has ample opportunity for internships and clerkships. There are nearby federal courts, US Attorney offices, an active and high profile DA's office, public defender's office, and Legal Aid. What's more, UC Irvine students are already in those offices doing intake as 1L's.http://www.law.uci.edu/registrar/curriculum.html
Let's see what respected OC lawyers have to say...
[M]ost of the state’s growth since 1965, and much of its future expansion, is in Southern California. The region needs another top-tier school, says O’Melveny & Myers partner Brett Williamson, a former Chemerinsky student.“There is a huge need in having an Orange County school with the resources and profile a UC school can bring,” says Williamson, who has practiced in Newport Beach for more than 20 years and now is managing partner of O’Melveny’s office there.http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/arti
There are TONS of reasons for going to UC Irvine.