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MixedGirl2009
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Re: Chapman

Postby MixedGirl2009 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:02 am

pauldoeslaw wrote:
twert wrote:
zeth006 wrote:I'm not bashing on Chapman. But at this moment, with my prospects with Davis looking dim, I'm stuck on choosing among USD, Loyola, and Chapman. The financial aid at USD and Loyola are equally vague; While USD has offered a $23,000 grant for the first year with nothing slated for the other years, Loyola has offered 15k/year with the 30% stipulation which I can't take for granted. Chapman on first glance presents the best value. But the unknown variables make me pause and worry.

i'm with you man, same options, same questions, same concerns.


Again, same questions and concerns. Pepperdine offered $25,000 for the first year, which renews if I stay within the top 1/3. In their acceptance package, they warn that more than a 1/3 of the class may have been offered scholarships with the same stipulation. I don't know if I want to study in that kind of environment, with the prospect of paying full tuition while living in the Malibu area looming overhead!


I guess another option is transferring after the first year at Chapman to your school of choice yet the process itself is a hassle and i'm not sure if they offer scholarships for transfer students at incoming schools?

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Re: Chapman

Postby mjs92983 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:42 pm

Has anyone heard anything about finding the replacement for Dean Eastman? Has the search committee been formed? Etc. Thanks.

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Re: Chapman

Postby twert » Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:48 pm

pauldoeslaw wrote:
twert wrote:
zeth006 wrote:I'm not bashing on Chapman. But at this moment, with my prospects with Davis looking dim, I'm stuck on choosing among USD, Loyola, and Chapman. The financial aid at USD and Loyola are equally vague; While USD has offered a $23,000 grant for the first year with nothing slated for the other years, Loyola has offered 15k/year with the 30% stipulation which I can't take for granted. Chapman on first glance presents the best value. But the unknown variables make me pause and worry.

i'm with you man, same options, same questions, same concerns.


Again, same questions and concerns. Pepperdine offered $25,000 for the first year, which renews if I stay within the top 1/3. In their acceptance package, they warn that more than a 1/3 of the class may have been offered scholarships with the same stipulation. I don't know if I want to study in that kind of environment, with the prospect of paying full tuition while living in the Malibu area looming overhead!

i think pretty much any of these schools will give more than 1/3 of the class scholarships and demand they stay in the top 1/3. i'm ok with this, if they give me money its ok if they expect things from me in return. however, some schools i hear stack sections to screw people and this worries me.

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Re: Chapman

Postby mjs92983 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:56 pm

Has there ever been any rumors of Chapman "stacking sections?"

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Re: Chapman

Postby pauldoeslaw » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:34 pm

twert wrote:
pauldoeslaw wrote:
twert wrote:
zeth006 wrote:I'm not bashing on Chapman. But at this moment, with my prospects with Davis looking dim, I'm stuck on choosing among USD, Loyola, and Chapman. The financial aid at USD and Loyola are equally vague; While USD has offered a $23,000 grant for the first year with nothing slated for the other years, Loyola has offered 15k/year with the 30% stipulation which I can't take for granted. Chapman on first glance presents the best value. But the unknown variables make me pause and worry.

i'm with you man, same options, same questions, same concerns.


Again, same questions and concerns. Pepperdine offered $25,000 for the first year, which renews if I stay within the top 1/3. In their acceptance package, they warn that more than a 1/3 of the class may have been offered scholarships with the same stipulation. I don't know if I want to study in that kind of environment, with the prospect of paying full tuition while living in the Malibu area looming overhead!

i think pretty much any of these schools will give more than 1/3 of the class scholarships and demand they stay in the top 1/3. i'm ok with this, if they give me money its ok if they expect things from me in return. however, some schools i hear stack sections to screw people and this worries me.


I'm sure many do, but Chapman just asks that you maintain a 3.0 GPA.

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Re: Chapman

Postby zeth006 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:07 pm

Assuming the grading system is fairly tame, the full-ride at Chapman sounds almost given. I'm meeting with some of my other 0L friends for dinner tomorrow. I'll ask them what they have to say.

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Re: Chapman

Postby 84Sunbird2000 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:15 pm

zeth006 wrote:Assuming the grading system is fairly tame, the full-ride at Chapman sounds almost given. I'm meeting with some of my other 0L friends for dinner tomorrow. I'll ask them what they have to say.


Actually, I called up and asked about their curve - it is harsh. 3.0 is equal to top 1/3. Just FYI.

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Re: Chapman

Postby twert » Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:35 pm

this is from NALP directory. i don't know how recent it is. it looks brutal.

Top 10%: 3.381
Top 25%: 3.092
Top 33%: 3.016
Top 50%: 2.869
Top 75%: 2.647

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Re: Chapman

Postby zeth006 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:45 pm

84Sunbird2000 wrote:
zeth006 wrote:Assuming the grading system is fairly tame, the full-ride at Chapman sounds almost given. I'm meeting with some of my other 0L friends for dinner tomorrow. I'll ask them what they have to say.


Actually, I called up and asked about their curve - it is harsh. 3.0 is equal to top 1/3. Just FYI.



Well...if it's the case that's true, looks like USD it is! I'm damned if I go to USD with debt...and damned if I don't! :D


Still waiting to hear from my reaches though.

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Re: Chapman

Postby mjs92983 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:20 am

Is a 3.0 curve harsh? I think part of what matters is how many full scholarships they are giving out. This is assuming that all people with full scholarships will maintain a 3.0 or better. I don't think they have enough money to offer so many people scholarships that people are getting bumped out. I could envision that if they stack them all into one track. There are only so many A's per class that some would get knocked around.

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Re: Chapman

Postby pauldoeslaw » Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:53 pm

twert wrote:this is from NALP directory. i don't know how recent it is. it looks brutal.

Top 10%: 3.381
Top 25%: 3.092
Top 33%: 3.016
Top 50%: 2.869
Top 75%: 2.647


That is brutal. Even so, I still prefer a scholarship structure that pits students against the "system," rather than against each other.

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Re: Chapman

Postby db004 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:01 pm

I've been in review since 11/13, anyone in my same situation? I would have thought I would have been waitlisted by now but I have yet to hear anything. I also noticed deposit fee's showed up, possibly good news?

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Re: Chapman

Postby mjs92983 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:11 pm

Not sure what you mean by the deposit showing up. I got in a while ago and my status says admitted and gives a link about seat deposits. Not sure how helpful this is. I've called/emailed a couple of times with questions. They are pretty helpful.

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Re: Chapman

Postby db004 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:41 pm

Under the fees section there are two separate deposits listed. It was curious because it wasn't there a few days ago.

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Re: Chapman

Postby 84Sunbird2000 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:02 pm

Also, to add, I asked what percentage of students retain their scholarships for all 3 years, and they said 63% retain them all the way through. I assume that a higher percent of the 37% that lost them, lost them during after 1L. So, you can do your own risk-management equations from there.

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Re: Chapman

Postby mjs92983 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:16 pm

Did you ask them to break it down by the amount of scholarship money? Was there a correlation of students who had half or quarter scholarship and losing those scholarships? Thanks.

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Re: Chapman

Postby 84Sunbird2000 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:23 pm

mjs92983 wrote:Did you ask them to break it down by the amount of scholarship money? Was there a correlation of students who had half or quarter scholarship and losing those scholarships? Thanks.


Nope, didn't ask that much detail.

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Re: Chapman

Postby JOE! » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:49 am

mjs92983 wrote:Has there ever been any rumors of Chapman "stacking sections?"


Rumors, sure... but they're not true. I was conscious of this possibility going in, and from asking around confirmed that the admissions office really does try and make the sections as even as possible in terms of scholarships / stats.

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Re: Chapman

Postby mjs92983 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:03 pm

That's good to know. Thanks for the update.

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Re: Chapman

Postby trick1 » Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:49 pm

been in review since 2/3
2.85/154 ucdavis with an internship in a law firm over a summer
i hope to get in since chapman is a school i would really like to go to
has there been numbers like this that have gotten in?

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Re: Chapman

Postby MixedGirl2009 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:29 pm

Can anyone clarify the ranking system for me - if Chapman is third tier, how are people saying that it may move up to top 100 soon? Do the rankings basically go from top 100 to tier 3 (300s) and tier 4 (400s) with nothing in between?

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Re: Chapman

Postby swiard » Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:18 pm

I have no idea whether or not Chapman will be in the top 100 next year but the tiers are Tier 1 (1-50), Tier 2 (51-100), Tier 3(101-140), Tier 4 (141-190)

The last two do not rank the individual schools however.

Nota Bene: Stole this from another thread, so hope its accurate

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Re: Chapman

Postby littlepiggie818 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:20 pm

I have been in review since 11/23.

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Re: Chapman

Postby MixedGirl2009 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 7:05 pm

swiard wrote:I have no idea whether or not Chapman will be in the top 100 next year but the tiers are Tier 1 (1-50), Tier 2 (51-100), Tier 3(101-140), Tier 4 (141-190)

The last two do not rank the individual schools however.

Nota Bene: Stole this from another thread, so hope its accurate


Thank you for the clarification, I just got thrown off because law school numbers ranks Chapman as 300 so I thought maybe tier 3 = 300 - 400

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Re: Chapman

Postby swiard » Sun Feb 21, 2010 7:46 pm

not a problem. I'm not huge on rankings, but I don't think even I would have applied if it was ranked 300 lol




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