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Re: Washington and Lee

Postby 84Sunbird2000 » Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:24 pm

jmhendri wrote:True, there is still time.

To me, W&M just didn't have the personality that W&L has. If you're taking the ranking that much to heart you're probably a tad on the superficil and dull side and I'd prefer not to have that sort buzzing around Macado's.


No, it was more the 0% PI placement at W&L, and the weakness of their PI program. I also really liked the personality of W&M, though I also liked W&L. Plus, I like the idea of taking more electives, even though I realize that the W&L 3L program is probably a good idea in some ways.

I don't give a crap about rating - the schools are 1 point apart, so tied for any sane and practical purpose. I do think that W&M's employment stats are a touch better over the last few years, though.

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Re: Washington and Lee

Postby Harry Ballsogna » Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:10 am

Jaggles wrote:
Harry Ballsogna wrote:I really don't understand the point of a $750 non-refundable deposit. That is 2-3x more than most other schools.

You really don't? Seems pretty obvious they don't want you to tie up a spot unless you are quite serious about it.



No, I really *don't.*

Its April 15th... I know plenty of people (myself included) that haven't even heard back from all of our schools yet. I can be quite serious about attending the school without wanting to throw away $750.

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Re: Washington and Lee

Postby GordonBombay » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:28 am

I understand not wanting to throw away money and everyone's situation is different, but if I was that torn between schools I would pay 750 to buy another month to decide. you're about to spend God knows how much in the next three years. Also, if you deposit and withdraw there was a story of one person getting a increase in schol to convince him to stay.

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I dont kow how true it is, if it was different then, whatever. Just thought I'd throw it out

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Re: Washington and Lee

Postby itzbouttime » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:47 am

Harry Ballsogna wrote:
Jaggles wrote:
Harry Ballsogna wrote:I really don't understand the point of a $750 non-refundable deposit. That is 2-3x more than most other schools.

You really don't? Seems pretty obvious they don't want you to tie up a spot unless you are quite serious about it.



No, I really *don't.*

Its April 15th... I know plenty of people (myself included) that haven't even heard back from all of our schools yet. I can be quite serious about attending the school without wanting to throw away $750.


IMO - I don't think it would be considered "throwing away $750" when you would be doing it to save a seat and give yourself time before making the final decision. I do think the deposit is relatively high (given it could be worse - American is $900) partially because they want to make sure you're serious, but, also because there is only what 130 - 138 seats available. They don't have that many seats and if they lower the seat deposit then more people would put it down and possible back out last minute. Having the deposit that high makes you think twice about dropping it down – which hopefully means you're serious about attending.

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Re: Washington and Lee

Postby GordonBombay » Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:33 pm

So obviously when picking a school the total cost of attendance was a huge factor. It seemed to me that, particularly for a school where COL is so low, they seem to estimate a higher COA other than tuition than some other schools, particularly in more expensive urban areas.

does 20k sound a little high to anyone else? Particularly the 16k that doesn't include books or loan fees? Anyone have an explanation? Maybe they just want to play it safe so that no one gets shorted on loans?

Here's the breakdown I'm referring to: http://law.wlu.edu/admissions/page.asp? ... penpanel=1

I suppose it depends on your living situation as well, but I'm hoping I can keep it under that

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Re: Washington and Lee

Postby statuscheckerssuck » Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:40 pm

GordonBombay wrote:So obviously when picking a school the total cost of attendance was a huge factor. It seemed to me that, particularly for a school where COL is so low, they seem to estimate a higher COA other than tuition than some other schools, particularly in more expensive urban areas.

does 20k sound a little high to anyone else? Particularly the 16k that doesn't include books or loan fees? Anyone have an explanation? Maybe they just want to play it safe so that no one gets shorted on loans?

Here's the breakdown I'm referring to: http://law.wlu.edu/admissions/page.asp? ... penpanel=1

I suppose it depends on your living situation as well, but I'm hoping I can keep it under that


I think most schools tend to overestimate. I remember seeing on other threads that when asked about it they will tell you it is so you can get more loans.

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Re: Washington and Lee

Postby GordonBombay » Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:43 pm

statuscheckerssuck wrote:
GordonBombay wrote:So obviously when picking a school the total cost of attendance was a huge factor. It seemed to me that, particularly for a school where COL is so low, they seem to estimate a higher COA other than tuition than some other schools, particularly in more expensive urban areas.

does 20k sound a little high to anyone else? Particularly the 16k that doesn't include books or loan fees? Anyone have an explanation? Maybe they just want to play it safe so that no one gets shorted on loans?

Here's the breakdown I'm referring to: http://law.wlu.edu/admissions/page.asp? ... penpanel=1

I suppose it depends on your living situation as well, but I'm hoping I can keep it under that


I think most schools tend to overestimate. I remember seeing on other threads that when asked about it they will tell you it is so you can get more loans.


Ya that's what I think too. I've seen estimates at 15k total in cities. I assume they put someone living alone at the top of the spectruma nd let you work from there

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Re: Washington and Lee

Postby sailgclass » Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:00 pm

It's been my understanding that the COL estimate is always higher so you can get more loans. Some people might want to pay off a credit card, or budget in the 1L summer living expenses so that you don't have to worry about getting a paid internship (which sounds difficult to do). I think it's great personally to have the freedom to choose how much loan I need.

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Re: Washington and Lee

Postby jmhendri » Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:12 pm

I'm not liking the fact that we don't get access to these loans until September. Moving fees and rent and all that junk are going to start racking up beginning in August at the latest...

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Re: Washington and Lee

Postby GordonBombay » Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:34 pm

I hear you about the extra if needed. I totally understand that. My original point was that when trying to estimate debt, going by the listed COA was really skewing W&L higher as it was an extra 5k a year. I don't plan on living in LEX in the summer and as of now I'm hoping to work in DC, so certainly there could be some extra there, among a million other possibilities.

From what I understand loan day is quite the celebration in Sept....

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Re: Washington and Lee

Postby sailgclass » Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:45 pm

GordonBombay wrote:I hear you about the extra if needed. I totally understand that. My original point was that when trying to estimate debt, going by the listed COA was really skewing W&L higher as it was an extra 5k a year. I don't plan on living in LEX in the summer and as of now I'm hoping to work in DC, so certainly there could be some extra there, among a million other possibilities.

From what I understand loan day is quite the celebration in Sept....

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Re: Washington and Lee

Postby NancyBotwin » Sat Apr 17, 2010 5:27 am

Just withdrew, so hopefully one of you will get the spot and/or the 51k. Good luck to everyone still waiting!

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Re: Washington and Lee

Postby SAE » Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:57 pm

NancyBotwin wrote:Just withdrew, so hopefully one of you will get the spot and/or the 51k. Good luck to everyone still waiting!

Didn't the deadline pass 2 days ago? :D

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Re: Washington and Lee

Postby NancyBotwin » Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:33 pm

SAE wrote:
NancyBotwin wrote:Just withdrew, so hopefully one of you will get the spot and/or the 51k. Good luck to everyone still waiting!

Didn't the deadline pass 2 days ago? :D

Haha, did it? Lots going on lately, so lost track. Oh well, haha.

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Re: Washington and Lee

Postby lawlife2010 » Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:52 am

Did anyone go to the waitlisted student day on the 9th? If so, how was it?
Has anyone been admitted off the waitlist yet?

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Re: Washington and Lee

Postby SpaceDawg » Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:26 am

Harry Ballsogna wrote:
Jaggles wrote:
Harry Ballsogna wrote:I really don't understand the point of a $750 non-refundable deposit. That is 2-3x more than most other schools.

You really don't? Seems pretty obvious they don't want you to tie up a spot unless you are quite serious about it.



No, I really *don't.*

Its April 15th... I know plenty of people (myself included) that haven't even heard back from all of our schools yet. I can be quite serious about attending the school without wanting to throw away $750.


It could partially be because the class size is so small.

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Re: Washington and Lee

Postby dp73816 » Mon Apr 19, 2010 3:33 pm

Just talked to the admissions office...they literally forgot about me. They thought they were done, and they had already moved on to the WL. What the hell?

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Re: Washington and Lee

Postby SAE » Mon Apr 19, 2010 3:36 pm

dp73816 wrote:Just talked to the admissions office...they literally forgot about me. They thought they were done, and they had already moved on to the WL. What the hell?

.... aaaand I'm pretty sure now the adcoms know who you are. You should continue expressing your disgust with them using more expletives.
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Re: Washington and Lee

Postby dp73816 » Mon Apr 19, 2010 3:38 pm

SAE wrote:
dp73816 wrote:Just talked to the admissions office...they literally forgot about me. They thought they were done, and they had already moved on to the WL. What the hell?

.... aaaand I'm pretty sure now they know who you are. You should continue expressing your disgust with them using more expletives.



I'm actually not disgusted; I'm glad I called so the situation is rectified asap. It was just a really unusual situation - I have never heard of anything like that happening. And since when is "hell" an expletive? This is not 1955.

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Re: Washington and Lee

Postby skamike » Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:31 pm

dp73816 wrote:Just talked to the admissions office...they literally forgot about me. They thought they were done, and they had already moved on to the WL. What the hell?


That blows, man. You always worry about situations like this, and you tell yourself that you are just being paranoid, but when it actually happens.....

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Re: Washington and Lee

Postby pugalicious » Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:45 pm

dp73816 wrote:Just talked to the admissions office...they literally forgot about me. They thought they were done, and they had already moved on to the WL. What the hell?


By "moved on to the waitlist" does that mean they're calling people off the waitlist??

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Re: Washington and Lee

Postby dp73816 » Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:14 pm

pugalicious wrote:
dp73816 wrote:Just talked to the admissions office...they literally forgot about me. They thought they were done, and they had already moved on to the WL. What the hell?


By "moved on to the waitlist" does that mean they're calling people off the waitlist??



Dont know...they said it in passing as they tried to explain the situation.

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Re: Washington and Lee

Postby Doodsmack » Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:36 am

So I'm curious what people are doing as far as housing if they are holding off on some waitlists? I suppose this would be a general question for any school. Assuming it's possible you could get off a WL even a week before classes start, you obviously wouldn't want to sign a lease yet. Of course, if the schools you're WLed at tell you you're not going to get in at some point, that's a different story.

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Re: Washington and Lee

Postby quadsixm » Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:33 pm

Housing in Lexington is plentiful. Also, the housing site says that student housing is available sometimes even into August. I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Doodsmack wrote:So I'm curious what people are doing as far as housing if they are holding off on some waitlists? I suppose this would be a general question for any school. Assuming it's possible you could get off a WL even a week before classes start, you obviously wouldn't want to sign a lease yet. Of course, if the schools you're WLed at tell you you're not going to get in at some point, that's a different story.

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Re: Washington and Lee

Postby alighieri » Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:58 pm

quadsixm wrote:Housing in Lexington is plentiful. Also, the housing site says that student housing is available sometimes even into August. I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Doodsmack wrote:So I'm curious what people are doing as far as housing if they are holding off on some waitlists? I suppose this would be a general question for any school. Assuming it's possible you could get off a WL even a week before classes start, you obviously wouldn't want to sign a lease yet. Of course, if the schools you're WLed at tell you you're not going to get in at some point, that's a different story.




But for those of us who don't get off of the waitlist, not all schools have plentiful housing. My backup school's housing options are depleting fast. Anyone who gets off the waitlist...please speak up!




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