notme wrote:I think it's difficult for anyone with below a 3.3 to claim YP at a top 25 school, I don't care what their LSAT is. Last cycle I suspect I got YP at some lower ranked schools, but with numbers roughly equivalent to oneforship, I was WL at ND (with a Why ND essay) and accepted off of the wait list late. I also got a low T-14 and UCLA, but, like UCLA, I don't believe ND was concerned with me taking a higher ranked school, I just think they didn't like my gpa, and only accepted me when they knew they didn't have any better options.
I think this is borne out by my experience with other applications. There was a band of wait list schools, above which I was outright rejected. Within the band of schools that wait listed me, the higher ranked schools let me go quickly, and the lower ranked schools accepted me quickly. The remaining schools, in the middle (including ND and UCLA), kept me waiting until the last minute. It's just the nature of the process for splitters.
Now texasgirl22 with a 168/3.84 and no Why ND essay is clearly a YP. They have no reason to believe she would attend if accepted. I suspect that with a convincing Why ND and a few phone calls she would be in very quickly. But, absent unknown circumstances, she is going to USC or above, probably UT.
ND has a problem attracting people with both a high LSAT and high GPA. With the exception being the why ND and with great reasons, where ND feels pretty confident you will attend.
ND's 25% GPA is one of the lowest among the tier 1 law schools at 3.36... I'm betting its the sacrifice of trying to go for a slightly higher LSAT. They are rank 40 or so if you sort by 25% gpa... So its not like they're avoiding low GPA's although it is higher then the 3.3 you stated, but 25% of the applicants have even lower gpa than the 3.36 stated.
Rankings also take into account how many people accept their acceptances, i.e. yield rate so it does matter. (assuming they care about rankings)
same reason why reverse splitters are usually less wanted than regular splitters. high gpas are practically unlimited (given the majors and the schools that can give all their students 4.0s technically) but high lsats are much more limited.