im_blue wrote: showNprove wrote: Dignan wrote:
showNprove wrote:So far this cycle, Virginia has accepted 93% of all applicants with both numbers at or above the medians. Last year, they accepted about 75%.
If you have two above-median numbers and don't get in, it's probably not because of YP.
I think this comparison is a little misleading. The 75% figure includes all of last year's cycle, whereas the 93% figure includes only those acceptances that have gone out thus far. Based on what I can see on LSN, many (most?) of the high GPA, high LSAT applicants have not heard back from UVA yet. We may still get a big wave of YP-motivated waitlist decisions for that population.
A 75% acceptance rate still doesn't compute with rampant YP. Last year, Chicago accepted only 73% of applicants with both numbers above the median. Is Chicago an egregious yield protector, too?
The point is, even if you assume every non-acceptance is YP-motivated--which is a big assumption--the vast majority of people with high numbers still get in. Is it that far-fetched to assume that perhaps a small percentage of people with high numbers just aren't otherwise good candidates for particular law schools?
Actually, Chicago is the egregious yield protector among CCN. If you look at the ~25% of 3.76+/171+ applicants that weren't accepted last year, many got into Yale, Harvard, and/or Columbia (often all 3), including TLS's own Mallard. How is an applicant a good fit for Harvard and even Yale, yet not Chicago?
In comparison, NYU takes around 95% of double-median applicants.
Not everyone who gets into Yale gets into Stanford or Harvard. This isn't a linear progression down the USNWR. When adcomms get thousands of applications from highly-qualified applicants for a limited number of seats, they do look at more than just numbers. Because adcomms are human, and because schools have different tilts and environments, the decisions are not going to be uniform.
Adcomms care more about not over-enrolling than they do about the yield rate. For every student they take with one lowish number, that's one less seat available for the people with two high numbers. Eventually someone needs to be put on the waitlist, regardless of which other schools accepted that applicant. After all, the adcomms at Penn don't call Yale to find out who Yale liked best so they can admit the same people. "Hey, Yale, who are all the cool schools picking this year? I don't want any weenies at my law school."