Prevailing theory so far is they defer people who the know will get into other top schools. They will probably more likely scoop up people for EA who are median/ above and will likely not get into better schools so they can lock them in early. Would make perfect sense to me, but we'll see. Still complete since 11/14.krispykitten wrote:Yeah, but still. Deferring a 175/3.7? I mean what are they waiting for?tintin wrote:sounds like they will probably be trying to raise their #s too if they really do have that many more applicants. interesting, thanks for this info!swc65 wrote:So i had my interview with Cornell today and it went well.
I also spoke the dean of admissions about all this deferral business. He explained that there has been a significant uptick in applications (16%). he also said that they were not sure if it was just people applying earlier or more people or what. he also said that during the last recession they ended up with too many students and did not have enough room for them. They are trying to avoid that this year!
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Also I'm sure there are others who they haven't deferred yet with equally high GPA and LSAT combination.SanBun wrote:Prevailing theory so far is they defer people who the know will get into other top schools. They will probably more likely scoop up people for EA who are median/ above and will likely not get into better schools so they can lock them in early. Would make perfect sense to me, but we'll see. Still complete since 11/14.krispykitten wrote: Yeah, but still. Deferring a 175/3.7? I mean what are they waiting for?
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I have not heard yet but 173/3.8. It wouldnt make sense to defer that person and accept me.. So I dont know what to expect.finalaspects wrote:Also I'm sure there are others who they haven't deferred yet with equally high GPA and LSAT combination.SanBun wrote:Prevailing theory so far is they defer people who the know will get into other top schools. They will probably more likely scoop up people for EA who are median/ above and will likely not get into better schools so they can lock them in early. Would make perfect sense to me, but we'll see. Still complete since 11/14.krispykitten wrote: Yeah, but still. Deferring a 175/3.7? I mean what are they waiting for?
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Oh yes, this certainly is a nice law library. It's like Michigan's reading room rendered on Nintendo 64.kittenmittons wrote:Neg them imo.Helmholtz wrote:Just got off the phone with Cornell. They will be accepting nobody this year in an attempt to make them appear "hard to get." hth
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Right, but according to the logic in this mini-thread here they're deferring a ton of people because they're attempting to raise their margins. So you think they're trying to simultaneously yield protect AND raise margins? So maybe their targets are 170-172s?SanBun wrote:Prevailing theory so far is they defer people who the know will get into other top schools. They will probably more likely scoop up people for EA who are median/ above and will likely not get into better schools so they can lock them in early. Would make perfect sense to me, but we'll see. Still complete since 11/14.krispykitten wrote:Yeah, but still. Deferring a 175/3.7? I mean what are they waiting for?tintin wrote:sounds like they will probably be trying to raise their #s too if they really do have that many more applicants. interesting, thanks for this info!swc65 wrote:So i had my interview with Cornell today and it went well.
I also spoke the dean of admissions about all this deferral business. He explained that there has been a significant uptick in applications (16%). he also said that they were not sure if it was just people applying earlier or more people or what. he also said that during the last recession they ended up with too many students and did not have enough room for them. They are trying to avoid that this year!
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You may have other softs and certain qualities that cornell wants more than others. And those deferred does not mean they'll get rejected in the end, they may very well get accepted as well.0L Hoping for 1 wrote: I have not heard yet but 173/3.8. It wouldnt make sense to defer that person and accept me.. So I dont know what to expect.
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Yes, I believe they are YPing while admitting people above median. Given they have deferred a lot of above 75th, they are probably aiming for an increase by admitting a lot of people b/w median and 75th.krispykitten wrote:
Right, but according to the logic in this mini-thread here they're deferring a ton of people because they're attempting to raise their margins. So you think they're trying to simultaneously yield protect AND raise margins? So maybe their targets are 170-172s?
Also people keep in mind, increase in apps does not always mean increase in qualified apps. I'd say about 80- 90% of people don't get a competitive LSAT score without devoted prep, so while there is a 16% increase in apps it might only translate to a 6% increase in qualified apps, for example. Personally know two people at my college who applied to LS after they figured out in September they are probably not getting a consulting job, so yeah, probably lots of spontaneous apps
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My DS was about my struggle growing up with an extreme allergic reaction to snow. That might have been what did me in.
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I tried to do a search but can't find anything on this from last year or from 2007. Can someone take a look also? Can someone find out if everyone got deferred all at once last year followed my acceptances/rejections in a batch? Anything other than this one thread: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 1&start=75
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Good point. Maybe they'll show some 169/3.48 love. But yeah, that's so true -- increase in apps =/= increase in qualified apps. I tend to forget that.SanBun wrote:Yes, I believe they are YPing while admitting people above median. Given they have deferred a lot of above 75th, they are probably aiming for an increase by admitting a lot of people b/w median and 75th.krispykitten wrote:
Right, but according to the logic in this mini-thread here they're deferring a ton of people because they're attempting to raise their margins. So you think they're trying to simultaneously yield protect AND raise margins? So maybe their targets are 170-172s?
Also people keep in mind, increase in apps does not always mean increase in qualified apps. I'd say about 80- 90% of people don't get a competitive LSAT score without devoted prep, so while there is a 16% increase in apps it might only translate to a 6% increase in qualified apps, for example. Personally know two people at my college who applied to LS after they figured out in September they are probably not getting a consulting job, so yeah, probably lots of spontaneous apps
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Long time lurker, first time caller...
Got the DR 11/24 last Friday, and was hoping to beat the odds on being Deferred. Checked the mail today, and yup, like everyone else... deferred. Oh well, Cooley here I come.
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Got the DR 11/24 last Friday, and was hoping to beat the odds on being Deferred. Checked the mail today, and yup, like everyone else... deferred. Oh well, Cooley here I come.
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So has it been conclusively proven that a 11/20 or 11/24 DR means a deferral?
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We're about 99.9% sure.march319 wrote:So has it been conclusively proven that a 11/20 or 11/24 DR means a deferral?
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Gah. Can I get a pep talk? Anyone feeling chipper?
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You're good enough! You're smart enough! And doggone it, people like you!John J. Rambo, Esq. wrote:Gah. Can I get a pep talk? Anyone feeling chipper?
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Just gotta hope people = AdcomMosca wrote:You're good enough! You're smart enough! And doggone it, people like you!John J. Rambo, Esq. wrote:Gah. Can I get a pep talk? Anyone feeling chipper?
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Not bad. I'm now motivated enough to drink, at least. To the bar!
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What I can't figure out is why Cornell doesn't just replace EA with ED and do away with this EA YP garbage?
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I've gotta say, this thread has really turned me off to Cornell. Massive putting off of applicants. Don't offer a program if you have no intention of using it. I certainly wouldn't go there without first talking to a bunch of students, to see if admissions and teaching is run the same.
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YES I agree! Cornell is being annoying, just because 'they can'. grrr.Kakarot wrote:I've gotta say, this thread has really turned me off to Cornell. Massive putting off of applicants. Don't offer a program if you have no intention of using it. I certainly wouldn't go there without first talking to a bunch of students, to see if admissions and teaching is run the same.
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my status checker is not working WTF.
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uh oh, auto-dingstarlight007 wrote:my status checker is not working WTF.
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I was going to go with a "omg omg omg!!! You're in!!!!!!!," but thought it cruel.Veritas wrote:uh oh, auto-dingstarlight007 wrote:my status checker is not working WTF.
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Got the deferral letter today - actually very good news for me - last year I was straight ding, never even got WL. "...please understand that this action does not mean that you have been denied admission;you will be given full consideration as part of our regular applicant pool... Congratulations on your fine record and background...
Much better than last year's straight 'Go away.' Also have good company with the deferral - I really was expecting a ding.
A step in the right direction...
Much better than last year's straight 'Go away.' Also have good company with the deferral - I really was expecting a ding.
A step in the right direction...
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