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Re: UCLA?

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Re: UCLA?

Postby weee » Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:04 am

Love it! (was not aware)

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Re: UCLA?

Postby AllBusiness » Wed Apr 14, 2010 9:44 am

Just withdrew, declining a measly 18K "gift." Good luck to everyone else!

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Re: UCLA?

Postby apples » Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:50 pm

when is UCLA's deposit deadline and how much is it?

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Re: UCLA?

Postby Hopefullawstudent » Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:52 pm

apples wrote:when is UCLA's deposit deadline and how much is it?


First deposit is due May 1st. It's $500.

Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

-HL

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Re: UCLA?

Postby mmmadeli » Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:31 am

Wow, UCLA's packet came today. They sent a DVD! This is delightful. I also like that one quote in there, "With a UCLA education, your only limits will be self-imposed." I am going to try to sneak this into as many conversations as I possibly can, about as many subjects I can think of. I love how it absolves UCLA of any possible responsibility for lack of success. No. That is on YOU.

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Re: UCLA?

Postby Hopefullawstudent » Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:39 am

mmmadeli wrote:Wow, UCLA's packet came today. They sent a DVD! This is delightful. I also like that one quote in there, "With a UCLA education, your only limits will be self-imposed." I am going to try to sneak this into as many conversations as I possibly can, about as many subjects I can think of. I love how it absolves UCLA of any possible responsibility for lack of success. No. That is on YOU.


You're cynical. :) That'll help you in law school actually.

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Re: UCLA?

Postby imisscollege » Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:30 am

can anybody recommend a place to stay when visiting UCLA that's within walking distance from the beach but still a decent place? As long as it's not ridiculous money is not a giant issue. I don't mind having to bus/cab to my ucla visit.

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Re: UCLA?

Postby ShibaDan » Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:42 am

Withdrew freeing up a spot and 85k from the Simon scholly fund. I hope one of you guys gets it! Good luck with the rest of your cycle! :)

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Re: UCLA?

Postby starrydecisus » Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:50 am

def2104 wrote:Withdrew freeing up a spot and 85k from the Simon scholly fund. I hope one of you guys gets it! Good luck with the rest of your cycle! :)


What's the best way to withdraw? Email?

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Re: UCLA?

Postby ShibaDan » Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:54 am

starrydecisus wrote:
def2104 wrote:Withdrew freeing up a spot and 85k from the Simon scholly fund. I hope one of you guys gets it! Good luck with the rest of your cycle! :)


What's the best way to withdraw? Email?


I withdrew via e-mail directly to dean schwartz. He has been so kind and responsive throughout this cycle I felt like he deserved a nice long e-mail. I think a standard few sentences to him should be fine too though.

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Re: UCLA?

Postby apples » Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:40 pm

I know this has been discussed previously, but what's the deal with UCLA and matching scholarships? Do you need to have been offered merit aid initially in order to send in other offers? And to whom do I send the matching request?

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Re: UCLA?

Postby starrydecisus » Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:57 pm

Just withdrew from UCLA with $60k offer. Hope the spot and money can go to someone on here! Good luck!

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Re: UCLA?

Postby turkishangora » Thu Apr 15, 2010 5:54 pm

apples wrote:I know this has been discussed previously, but what's the deal with UCLA and matching scholarships? Do you need to have been offered merit aid initially in order to send in other offers? And to whom do I send the matching request?


not sure if they'll exactly match. it seems ppl have been getting something though depending on the other offer, etc. but send request directly to dean Schwartz. he's super nice.

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Re: UCLA?

Postby dreamweaver87 » Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:51 pm

Well, I asked for some merit aid and they got back to me tonight and offered me...$5,000/year. Blah, I'm dying to go, but $5,000 per year really doesn't help too much. I am glad they're giving me something when they hadn't offered me anything originally, but sheesh. I wonder if there's any way I can get them to up it.

I'm just stressed because Minnesota's deposit deadline is Monday and it's $750 (the most expensive deposit I have) and, while I'd really prefer UCLA, they're giving me $20,000/year and it's a lot cheaper to begin with.

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Re: UCLA?

Postby turkishangora » Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:09 pm

dreamweaver87 wrote:Well, I asked for some merit aid and they got back to me tonight and offered me...$5,000/year. Blah, I'm dying to go, but $5,000 per year really doesn't help too much. I am glad they're giving me something when they hadn't offered me anything originally, but sheesh. I wonder if there's any way I can get them to up it.

I'm just stressed because Minnesota's deposit deadline is Monday and it's $750 (the most expensive deposit I have) and, while I'd really prefer UCLA, they're giving me $20,000/year and it's a lot cheaper to begin with.


what if you factor in chance of in-state tuition at UCLA? I was also choosing b/w UCLA and a school that offered 20k/yr. I did an excel sheet with different hypos, and in teh end, adding in everything it is possible that they came out to a 30k difference total - a difference I can live with for attending a school I liked better. my point is that the difference seemed more substantial than it was after factoring in evyerhting.

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Re: UCLA?

Postby Jericwithers » Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:13 pm

So $50k, $45k, $50k is the OOS 1L in state 2&3L rate. So that would mean $130k in debt + $15kish a year for housing and feed. Compared to which school? I would agree that any difference less than $50k for a marginally better school is worth it.

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Re: UCLA?

Postby dreamweaver87 » Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:35 pm

turkishangora wrote:
what if you factor in chance of in-state tuition at UCLA? I was also choosing b/w UCLA and a school that offered 20k/yr. I did an excel sheet with different hypos, and in teh end, adding in everything it is possible that they came out to a 30k difference total - a difference I can live with for attending a school I liked better. my point is that the difference seemed more substantial than it was after factoring in evyerhting.


The problem is that Minnesota total is $57k/yr while UCLA total is about $71k/yr, right? So, there's already a substantial difference in tuition even without the much larger scholarship.

I was looking at the sheet on the UCLA website about in-state tuition. I'm wondering how strict it really is to gain in-state tuition, though. It says you have to be "physically present for more than one year." This may be a stupid question, but does this mean I can't leave at all? Like, not even for breaks? I've never dealt with this kind of thing before.

This really sucks. UCLA has been my #1 for so long. Yeesh...why's law school have to be so expensive?

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Re: UCLA?

Postby Jericwithers » Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:38 pm

dreamweaver87 wrote:
turkishangora wrote:
what if you factor in chance of in-state tuition at UCLA? I was also choosing b/w UCLA and a school that offered 20k/yr. I did an excel sheet with different hypos, and in teh end, adding in everything it is possible that they came out to a 30k difference total - a difference I can live with for attending a school I liked better. my point is that the difference seemed more substantial than it was after factoring in evyerhting.


The problem is that Minnesota total is $57k/yr while UCLA total is about $71k/yr, right? So, there's already a substantial difference in tuition even without the much larger scholarship.

I was looking at the sheet on the UCLA website about in-state tuition. I'm wondering how strict it really is to gain in-state tuition, though. It says you have to be "physically present for more than one year." This may be a stupid question, but does this mean I can't leave at all? Like, not even for breaks? I've never dealt with this kind of thing before.

This really sucks. UCLA has been my #1 for so long. Yeesh...why's law school have to be so expensive?


To keep the poor people out.

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Re: UCLA?

Postby dreamweaver87 » Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:48 pm

Jericwithers wrote:
To keep the poor people out.


:) Ain't that the truth...

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Re: UCLA?

Postby turkishangora » Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:28 am

dreamweaver87 wrote:
turkishangora wrote:
what if you factor in chance of in-state tuition at UCLA? I was also choosing b/w UCLA and a school that offered 20k/yr. I did an excel sheet with different hypos, and in teh end, adding in everything it is possible that they came out to a 30k difference total - a difference I can live with for attending a school I liked better. my point is that the difference seemed more substantial than it was after factoring in evyerhting.


The problem is that Minnesota total is $57k/yr while UCLA total is about $71k/yr, right? So, there's already a substantial difference in tuition even without the much larger scholarship.

I was looking at the sheet on the UCLA website about in-state tuition. I'm wondering how strict it really is to gain in-state tuition, though. It says you have to be "physically present for more than one year." This may be a stupid question, but does this mean I can't leave at all? Like, not even for breaks? I've never dealt with this kind of thing before.

This really sucks. UCLA has been my #1 for so long. Yeesh...why's law school have to be so expensive?


they only gave you 5k when the cost of attendance diff would have been 40k a year/35k with your schollie?? did you tell them that Minnesota costs 15k less?

i don't know about in-state stuff, but it doesn't seem too complicated. I think it's something about intent (drivers license), move date more than 366 days (i don't really think they mean physcally present. seriously how would they know? there's no border control between states), and I think must be min age of 23 for the year applying for in-state tuition (so next year).

Don't quote me on this though. And despite the money difference, congrats on getting into your #1!!

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Re: UCLA?

Postby dreamweaver87 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:52 am

turkishangora wrote:
they only gave you 5k when the cost of attendance diff would have been 40k a year/35k with your schollie?? did you tell them that Minnesota costs 15k less?

i don't know about in-state stuff, but it doesn't seem too complicated. I think it's something about intent (drivers license), move date more than 366 days (i don't really think they mean physcally present. seriously how would they know? there's no border control between states), and I think must be min age of 23 for the year applying for in-state tuition (so next year).

Don't quote me on this though. And despite the money difference, congrats on getting into your #1!!


I didn't tell then that, kind of figured they'd know. I'm wondering if I should ask for more or if that's getting too pushy, as they didn't offer me anything to begin with.

Also, thanks...I appreciate it :)

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Re: UCLA?

Postby turkishangora » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:56 am

dreamweaver87 wrote:
turkishangora wrote:
they only gave you 5k when the cost of attendance diff would have been 40k a year/35k with your schollie?? did you tell them that Minnesota costs 15k less?

i don't know about in-state stuff, but it doesn't seem too complicated. I think it's something about intent (drivers license), move date more than 366 days (i don't really think they mean physcally present. seriously how would they know? there's no border control between states), and I think must be min age of 23 for the year applying for in-state tuition (so next year).

Don't quote me on this though. And despite the money difference, congrats on getting into your #1!!


I didn't tell then that, kind of figured they'd know. I'm wondering if I should ask for more or if that's getting too pushy, as they didn't offer me anything to begin with.

Also, thanks...I appreciate it :)


I don't think you'll be too pushy as long as the tone of the email si polite. plus, you have nothing to lose at this point, and I think they'll respect you for it (they're lawyers, after all). just tell them you're grateful, but then list the existing cost of difference btw the two schools (i.e. drop in how Minnesota is cheaper to begin with, plus lower COL). ask for more. I think they have the money with so many recent withdraws. And, if UCLA is your #1. tell them that. good luck :)

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Re: UCLA?

Postby dreamweaver87 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:23 pm

turkishangora wrote:
I don't think you'll be too pushy as long as the tone of the email si polite. plus, you have nothing to lose at this point, and I think they'll respect you for it (they're lawyers, after all). just tell them you're grateful, but then list the existing cost of difference btw the two schools (i.e. drop in how Minnesota is cheaper to begin with, plus lower COL). ask for more. I think they have the money with so many recent withdraws. And, if UCLA is your #1. tell them that. good luck :)


thanks for the advice...i'm going to ask. not expecting anything else, but really hoping...
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Re: UCLA?

Postby Jericwithers » Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:51 pm

Withdrawn, 1 seat and $75k back into the pot. Good luck to those still waiting, I told Dean Schwartz to give my package to one of yall!




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