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Re: UCLA?

Postby jgulia45 » Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:04 pm

finalaspects wrote:According to LSN in the 08/09 cycle, out of 17 people who applied ED, 3 were accepted, 4 were Waitlisted, and the rest were rejected. (This does not include self reported URMs)

Stats of those accepted: [168//3.53] [162//3.74] [169//3.69]

Stats of those Waitlisted: [161//3.41] [167//3.46] [167//3.61] [161//3.92]

Highest LSAT rejected: [167//3.52]

Highest GPA rejected: [162//3.7]


I do hope we end up at UCLA together...you are just too much! I feel like we share a brain sometimes...I too have put together this list.

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Re: UCLA?

Postby finalaspects » Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:16 pm

jgulia45 wrote:I do hope we end up at UCLA together...you are just too much! I feel like we share a brain sometimes...I too have put together this list.


Quite honestly, I think you have a very good shot with your #'s at [167//3.7]. If I had to gamble I would put my money on you getting accepted.

For myself, on the other hand [168//3.1] my GPA is too low, and I would say the chances are greater that I do not get accepted. Regardless I'll be root for you! Good luck, and I bet i would come up $$$ making that bet with you. =)

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Re: UCLA?

Postby rondemarino » Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:24 pm

finalaspects wrote:For myself, on the other hand [168//3.1] my GPA is too low, and I would say the chances are greater that I do not get accepted. Regardless I'll be root for you! Good luck, and I bet i would come up $$$ making that bet with you. =)


I like your chances better. It'll be interesting how much UCLA wants to play the numbers game. A 168/3.1 at least pads/maintains the LSAT median. A 167/3.7 (assuming 3.75 or lower) drags down both in a cycle where schools are seeing a surge in applicants.

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Re: UCLA?

Postby galahad85 » Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:28 pm

So I got an "application received" email on 10/30, but still haven't gotten a "complete" email. Is this normal, or should I call them?

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Re: UCLA?

Postby Jornste » Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:35 pm

Just sent in the app earlier today.....we'll see what happens......

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Re: UCLA?

Postby Woozy » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:48 pm

jgulia45 wrote:
finalaspects wrote:According to LSN in the 08/09 cycle, out of 17 people who applied ED, 3 were accepted, 4 were Waitlisted, and the rest were rejected. (This does not include self reported URMs)

Stats of those accepted: [168//3.53] [162//3.74] [169//3.69]

Stats of those Waitlisted: [161//3.41] [167//3.46] [167//3.61] [161//3.92]

Highest LSAT rejected: [167//3.52]

Highest GPA rejected: [162//3.7]


I do hope we end up at UCLA together...you are just too much! I feel like we share a brain sometimes...I too have put together this list.


Count me in the ED pool as well. Best of luck to us all.

FYI, those numbers are very incomplete. At the info session last month, we were told 22 ED applicants (IIRC) were admitted last cycle. Total applicants numbered something like 250-275. The very low acceptance rate (approx. half the rate of RD) is surely due to the marginal applicant pool - present company excluded, of course.

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Re: UCLA?

Postby finalaspects » Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:03 pm

Woozy wrote:Count me in the ED pool as well. Best of luck to us all.

FYI, those numbers are very incomplete. At the info session last month, we were told 22 ED applicants (IIRC) were admitted last cycle. Total applicants numbered something like 250-275. The very low acceptance rate (approx. half the rate of RD) is surely due to the marginal applicant pool - present company excluded, of course.


No doubt. 17.64% of those who bothered to sign up for LSN ED got accepted. That is much higher then the 8% that UCLA accepted according to your info session. But it was the only statistics that was available to me. Good Luck!

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Re: UCLA?

Postby ruleser » Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:15 pm

rondemarino wrote:
finalaspects wrote:For myself, on the other hand [168//3.1] my GPA is too low, and I would say the chances are greater that I do not get accepted. Regardless I'll be root for you! Good luck, and I bet i would come up $$$ making that bet with you. =)


I like your chances better. It'll be interesting how much UCLA wants to play the numbers game. A 168/3.1 at least pads/maintains the LSAT median. A 167/3.7 (assuming 3.75 or lower) drags down both in a cycle where schools are seeing a surge in applicants.

Tend to agree - what I learned last cycle/overall is it's not about who has better numbers in combo, it's all about median. That is the main number schools worry about. So 167/3.7 with both under median is not as useable by the school as a 168/3.1 where 168 is the school's median.

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Re: UCLA?

Postby finalaspects » Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:23 pm

ruleser wrote:
rondemarino wrote:
finalaspects wrote:For myself, on the other hand [168//3.1] my GPA is too low, and I would say the chances are greater that I do not get accepted. Regardless I'll be root for you! Good luck, and I bet i would come up $$$ making that bet with you. =)


I like your chances better. It'll be interesting how much UCLA wants to play the numbers game. A 168/3.1 at least pads/maintains the LSAT median. A 167/3.7 (assuming 3.75 or lower) drags down both in a cycle where schools are seeing a surge in applicants.

Tend to agree - what I learned last cycle/overall is it's not about who has better numbers in combo, it's all about median. That is the main number schools worry about. So 167/3.7 with both under median is not as useable by the school as a 168/3.1 where 168 is the school's median.


I LOVE YOU GUYS!!! RONDEMARINO AND RULESER!! :o

Let's hope UCLA thinks the same way!

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Re: UCLA?

Postby hellogoodbye1 » Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:42 pm

i hope so too!! does this logic also apply on the gpa side? i.e. 3.8/163?

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Re: UCLA?

Postby rondemarino » Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:30 pm

hellogoodbye1 wrote:i hope so too!! does this logic also apply on the gpa side? i.e. 3.8/163?


Sadly, no. You need a little extra going for you. There's no constraint on the number of 3.8s out there. However, in any given cycle are only so many 168+s out there because the LSAT is a standardized test. However, I'd guess in via ED though.

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Re: UCLA?

Postby MC Southstar » Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:31 pm

I'm not gonna get in UCLA either way because of my GPA (hopes this isn't actually true)

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Re: UCLA?

Postby rondemarino » Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:34 pm

shadowfrost000 wrote:I'm not gonna get in UCLA either way because of my GPA (hopes this isn't actually true)


If you ED'ed I wouldn't discount your chances.

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Re: UCLA?

Postby MC Southstar » Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:42 pm

rondemarino wrote:
shadowfrost000 wrote:I'm not gonna get in UCLA either way because of my GPA (hopes this isn't actually true)


If you ED'ed I wouldn't discount your chances.


Nah, I EDed into the T10, but after really thinking about it, I might really want to go to Cali for non-education related reasons. Too bad I'm way out at Berkeley, a pity.

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Re: UCLA?

Postby rondemarino » Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:40 am

shadowfrost000 wrote:
rondemarino wrote:
shadowfrost000 wrote:I'm not gonna get in UCLA either way because of my GPA (hopes this isn't actually true)


If you ED'ed I wouldn't discount your chances.


Nah, I EDed into the T10, but after really thinking about it, I might really want to go to Cali for non-education related reasons. Too bad I'm way out at Berkeley, a pity.


where'd you ED?

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Re: UCLA?

Postby ViP » Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:44 am

hellogoodbye1 wrote:i hope so too!! does this logic also apply on the gpa side? i.e. 3.8/163?


Numbers twin.

Best of luck! By the way- did you ED?

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Re: UCLA?

Postby hellogoodbye1 » Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:25 am

ViP wrote:
hellogoodbye1 wrote:i hope so too!! does this logic also apply on the gpa side? i.e. 3.8/163?


Numbers twin.

Best of luck! By the way- did you ED?


yes i did- i assume you did too? good luck to you! i hope ucla is kind to us :)

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Re: UCLA?

Postby hellogoodbye1 » Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:28 am

rondemarino wrote:
hellogoodbye1 wrote:i hope so too!! does this logic also apply on the gpa side? i.e. 3.8/163?


Sadly, no. You need a little extra going for you. There's no constraint on the number of 3.8s out there. However, in any given cycle are only so many 168+s out there because the LSAT is a standardized test. However, I'd guess in via ED though.


thanks for the response! your logic makes sense :/ i'm hoping ed helps.

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Re: UCLA?

Postby Hattori Hanzo » Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:09 am

What is the LSAT/GPA above which you'd have to write a "why UCLA" to not get YP'd?

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Re: UCLA?

Postby calidreamin » Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:11 am

They basically ask for a why UCLA with that question about what program/group you would contribute to

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Re: UCLA?

Postby ViP » Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:22 pm

hellogoodbye1 wrote:
ViP wrote:
hellogoodbye1 wrote:i hope so too!! does this logic also apply on the gpa side? i.e. 3.8/163?


Numbers twin.

Best of luck! By the way- did you ED?


yes i did- i assume you did too? good luck to you! i hope ucla is kind to us :)


Yeah, I'm ED also. I really hope my personal statement shines. A 163 ain't exactly the most attractive thing at UCLA :(.

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Re: UCLA?

Postby ViP » Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:24 pm

calidreamin wrote:They basically ask for a why UCLA with that question about what program/group you would contribute to


I guess so... sort of a pre-arranged "why X" essay.

How many people here wrote that essay? I think it was the "answer to question 7" optional essay...

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Re: UCLA?

Postby jgulia45 » Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:08 pm

ViP wrote:
calidreamin wrote:They basically ask for a why UCLA with that question about what program/group you would contribute to


I guess so... sort of a pre-arranged "why X" essay.

How many people here wrote that essay? I think it was the "answer to question 7" optional essay...


I was reading last year's UCLA thread and I think unless you have a REAL reason why you would add significant value to a program they offer, it just comes off as fluff. Having traveled internationally doesn't make you more qualified to do international law etc. I sort of realized through trying to write it that I am not 100% certain I want to study one area so I didn't want to feel like I was forcing something.

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Re: UCLA?

Postby ViP » Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:21 pm

jgulia45 wrote:
ViP wrote:
calidreamin wrote:They basically ask for a why UCLA with that question about what program/group you would contribute to


I guess so... sort of a pre-arranged "why X" essay.

How many people here wrote that essay? I think it was the "answer to question 7" optional essay...


I was reading last year's UCLA thread and I think unless you have a REAL reason why you would add significant value to a program they offer, it just comes off as fluff. Having traveled internationally doesn't make you more qualified to do international law etc. I sort of realized through trying to write it that I am not 100% certain I want to study one area so I didn't want to feel like I was forcing something.


Sure, that makes sense.

I think the structured format of the question ("what program/group would you contribute to" vs. a generic "why x") aims at dissuading applicants from including fluff-like essays. In other words, an applicant can't just BS an answer like "LA is a great town," "UCLA is so great in every way," "I always wanted to attend UCLA Law," etc.

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Re: UCLA?

Postby Veritas » Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:26 pm

ViP wrote:
calidreamin wrote:They basically ask for a why UCLA with that question about what program/group you would contribute to


I guess so... sort of a pre-arranged "why X" essay.

How many people here wrote that essay? I think it was the "answer to question 7" optional essay...

I wrote one about the international human rights program. I had some some research and project work experience with disability rights in the UK so I spoke about what I can bring to the program from that experience and how the program will aid me in expanding my knowledge and blah blah blah




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