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gatorlion
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Re: William & Mary

Postby gatorlion » Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:35 pm

d-cannon wrote:
gatorlion wrote:Status changed to "decision pending" today (1/28). I applied 1/14. That seems like a pretty good turn-around time...


Except that DP = you'll find out in March.


SO what you are saying is that the school raced to process my application, then made the decision to not make a decision until a perhaps undefined later date. Wouldn't it make more sense to say "Held" or something similar? I have decision pending at several schools now. If it means "We are waiting to see what our applicant pool looks like before making decisions on borderline cases like yours," wouldn't it be more transparent to let the applicant know?

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Re: William & Mary

Postby waxloaf » Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:39 pm

I think DP mainly means its ready for review and at some point in the next few months they will make a decision, transparency would be nice but I doubt you will find much of it

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Re: William & Mary

Postby narkizopoint » Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:41 pm

gatorlion wrote:
d-cannon wrote:
gatorlion wrote:Status changed to "decision pending" today (1/28). I applied 1/14. That seems like a pretty good turn-around time...


Except that DP = you'll find out in March.


SO what you are saying is that the school raced to process my application, then made the decision to not make a decision until a perhaps undefined later date. Wouldn't it make more sense to say "Held" or something similar? I have decision pending at several schools now. If it means "We are waiting to see what our applicant pool looks like before making decisions on borderline cases like yours," wouldn't it be more transparent to let the applicant know?


I've been decision pending since 10/08 soooo...yeah.

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Re: William & Mary

Postby holydonkey » Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:43 pm

gatorlion wrote:
d-cannon wrote:
gatorlion wrote:Status changed to "decision pending" today (1/28). I applied 1/14. That seems like a pretty good turn-around time...


Except that DP = you'll find out in March.


SO what you are saying is that the school raced to process my application, then made the decision to not make a decision until a perhaps undefined later date. Wouldn't it make more sense to say "Held" or something similar? I have decision pending at several schools now. If it means "We are waiting to see what our applicant pool looks like before making decisions on borderline cases like yours," wouldn't it be more transparent to let the applicant know?


Yes, but sadly William and Mary is not transparent. If you look at their LSN graph - http://wm.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats - you'll see no one has been waitlisted or denied yet even though they started making accept decisions in Sept/Oct.

For this reason W&M has by far the crappiest admissions cycle.

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Re: William & Mary

Postby Interminable_Waiting » Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:17 pm

In via status checker!! Very excited!

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Re: William & Mary

Postby Shlonster » Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:18 pm

Also in via status checker -- for all wondering...

Complete 1/14
Decision 1/29...

looked a couple times before I saw that under "mailings" it said admit package mailed.

Exciting :)

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Re: William & Mary

Postby Mickey Quicknumbers » Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:31 pm

Same here, complete on the 25th, in today via status checker, called the admissions office to find out I got the in-state tuition scholly plus a job?

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Re: William & Mary

Postby Emma1 » Sat Jan 30, 2010 12:22 am

I don't think law school numbers lists all acceptances, rejections, WL etc. It is just a sampling of self reporting potential students. Correct?

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Re: William & Mary

Postby krispykitten » Sat Jan 30, 2010 12:23 am

Hey guys, question. For the scholarship awards, there was a C-average stipulation-- does anyone have any data on how hard that is to meet? I ask b/c in the W&L email, they note that 80% of students continue to meet their scholarship award's stipulations and W&M didn't mention anything like that (which is now making me really nervous...)

And congrats to the new admits!!

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Re: William & Mary

Postby krispykitten » Sat Jan 30, 2010 12:23 am

Emma1 wrote:I don't think law school numbers lists all acceptances, rejections, WL etc. It is just a sampling of self reporting potential students. Correct?


That's right-- LSN is just a very small sample of what actually goes on.

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Re: William & Mary

Postby Burberry by Burberry » Sat Jan 30, 2010 12:45 am

krispykitten wrote:Hey guys, question. For the scholarship awards, there was a C-average stipulation-- does anyone have any data on how hard that is to meet? I ask b/c in the W&L email, they note that 80% of students continue to meet their scholarship award's stipulations and W&M didn't mention anything like that (which is now making me really nervous...)

And congrats to the new admits!!

According to this site, only 5-15% in a class (with 30 or more students) will receive a C+ or lower. It seems that the C-average requirement will not be too difficult to satisfy.

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Re: William & Mary

Postby krispykitten » Sat Jan 30, 2010 12:54 am

Burberry by Burberry wrote:
krispykitten wrote:Hey guys, question. For the scholarship awards, there was a C-average stipulation-- does anyone have any data on how hard that is to meet? I ask b/c in the W&L email, they note that 80% of students continue to meet their scholarship award's stipulations and W&M didn't mention anything like that (which is now making me really nervous...)

And congrats to the new admits!!

According to this site, only 5-15% in a class (with 30 or more students) will receive a C+ or lower. It seems that the C-average requirement will not be too difficult to satisfy.


Thank you so much! So not only is W&M now cheaper, it's also easier to keep my scholarship. Hurray W&M.

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Re: William & Mary

Postby MBZags » Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:01 pm

I just withdrew with a $57,600 scholarship. Hopefully it'll go to one of you TLSers. Good luck everyone!

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Re: William & Mary

Postby staylor21 » Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:47 am

So I sent in my application like 1/14

Current Status: Application Ready for Review
Current Status Date: 1/29/2010
Decision Status: Review Complete
Decision Status Date: 1/29/2010

Congratulations! Admit Packet Mailed 01/29/2010
Application is Complete/Ready for Review 01/27/2010

So Im assuming I mean that I am accepted? Kinda confused! And is a decision this quickly normal or did I just get lucky?

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Re: William & Mary

Postby krispykitten » Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:14 am

staylor21 wrote:So I sent in my application like 1/14

Current Status: Application Ready for Review
Current Status Date: 1/29/2010
Decision Status: Review Complete
Decision Status Date: 1/29/2010

Congratulations! Admit Packet Mailed 01/29/2010
Application is Complete/Ready for Review 01/27/2010

So Im assuming I mean that I am accepted? Kinda confused! And is a decision this quickly normal or did I just get lucky?


Sounds like you're in! It only took me 2 days to go from Complete to Decision too. Welcome aboard.

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Re: William & Mary

Postby timelovesahero » Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:15 pm

Got my acceptance in the mail today. I'm offered a Graduate Fellowship allowing me to pay instate tuition and 4k stipend. On top of that I got a 3k a year scholarship. I'm excited!

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Re: William & Mary

Postby Shlonster » Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:13 pm

timelovesahero wrote:Got my acceptance in the mail today. I'm offered a Graduate Fellowship allowing me to pay instate tuition and 4k stipend. On top of that I got a 3k a year scholarship. I'm excited!


Same ol' same down here, minus the 3k a year. Seems like everyone in the thread who has been accepted so far has gotten the fellowship and 4k.

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Re: William & Mary

Postby Eazy E » Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:04 pm

Withdrew today. Hopefully that'll free up a spot for a deserving applicant. Good luck!

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Re: William & Mary

Postby Veritas » Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:05 pm

krispykitten wrote:Hey guys, question. For the scholarship awards, there was a C-average stipulation-- does anyone have any data on how hard that is to meet? I ask b/c in the W&L email, they note that 80% of students continue to meet their scholarship award's stipulations and W&M didn't mention anything like that (which is now making me really nervous...)

And congrats to the new admits!!

Mine said a "B" average.... :|

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Re: William & Mary

Postby GobiasIndustries » Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:23 pm

Still waiting to hear - I'm assuming it'll be with the rest of the leftovers in March, and I feel like it could go either way. Though the more time that passes, the more I think I'm losing interest...not because of the silence, just because of how my cycle is working out and where I see myself ending up. Hmm.

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Re: William & Mary

Postby klussy » Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:42 pm

Veritas wrote:
krispykitten wrote:Hey guys, question. For the scholarship awards, there was a C-average stipulation-- does anyone have any data on how hard that is to meet? I ask b/c in the W&L email, they note that 80% of students continue to meet their scholarship award's stipulations and W&M didn't mention anything like that (which is now making me really nervous...)

And congrats to the new admits!!

Mine said a "B" average.... :|


This is from the W&M TLS profile:

One other reason for the noncompetitive culture may be the generous B+ grading curve. A 2L gave this information about how it is structured:

A+: 1% of the class
A or A-: 15 to 25%
B+: 25 to 35%
B: 20 to 30%
B-: 10 to 20%
C+ or lower: 5 to 15%

So, it seems the halfway point would be something like a 3.16 (halfway between a B and a B+ average). So, a B average would put you in the bottom half, it seems.

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Re: William & Mary

Postby 84Sunbird2000 » Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:19 pm

klussy wrote:
Veritas wrote:
krispykitten wrote:Hey guys, question. For the scholarship awards, there was a C-average stipulation-- does anyone have any data on how hard that is to meet? I ask b/c in the W&L email, they note that 80% of students continue to meet their scholarship award's stipulations and W&M didn't mention anything like that (which is now making me really nervous...)

And congrats to the new admits!!

Mine said a "B" average.... :|


This is from the W&M TLS profile:

One other reason for the noncompetitive culture may be the generous B+ grading curve. A 2L gave this information about how it is structured:

A+: 1% of the class
A or A-: 15 to 25%
B+: 25 to 35%
B: 20 to 30%
B-: 10 to 20%
C+ or lower: 5 to 15%

So, it seems the halfway point would be something like a 3.16 (halfway between a B and a B+ average). So, a B average would put you in the bottom half, it seems.


That's good to know, because they didn't have much info on the NALP page for W and M. However, W&L has a 3.38 (!) median with a 3.22 75th!!! Now, THAT is a friendly curve. UConn's curve is nearly identical to W&L as well. Still, it sounds like W&M's curve is very doable.

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Re: William & Mary

Postby 02082010 » Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:54 pm

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Re: William & Mary

Postby Veritas » Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:54 pm

hopefulundergrad wrote:Did any admitted students get the email reminding you to withdraw if you have already committed to another school?

I called yesterday asking if I could get my scholarship upped by mentioning some higher ranked schools I've been admitted to and they said they'll look into and then I got the random email this morning.

ya I think everyone got it.

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Re: William & Mary

Postby 02082010 » Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:15 pm

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