Yale 2010 Forum

[BioEBear2010]

BioEBear is just so awesome that the typo didn't matter.

TITCR.

Aw, now I'm blushing

[ConMan345]

You've been PM-ed.

Hopefully their is room for those of us who are less perfect than they're admitted students. You know those Yalies, there somethin' else.

Did no one catch my joke?

Or is it just that unfunny?

[CardinalRules]

BioEBear is just so awesome that the typo didn't matter.

TITCR.

Aw, now I'm blushing

Imagine that my avatar said it. Now you have reason to start blushing.

[CardinalRules]

You've been PM-ed.

Hopefully their is room for those of us who are less perfect than they're admitted students. You know those Yalies, there somethin' else.

Did no one catch my joke?

Or is it just that unfunny?

I just caught it. There was no emoticon to alert me.

[booboo]

You've been PM-ed.

Hopefully their is room for those of us who are less perfect than they're admitted students. You know those Yalies, there somethin' else.

Did no one catch my joke?

Or is it just that unfunny?

I did, thought you were serious at first, then realized mid post you weren't, and then did not post. .

[tomhobbes]

BioEBear is just so awesome that the typo didn't matter.

TITCR.

managamy, that phrase is out of fashion now. All the cool kids say "I agree" or "right" now, maybe "you are correct" if you want eloquence.

[CardinalRules]

BioEBear is just so awesome that the typo didn't matter.

TITCR.

managamy, that phrase is out of fashion now. All the cool kids say "I agree" or "right" now, maybe "you are correct" if you want eloquence.

I'll be uber-cool and start going with Das ist die Kredittet Respaunz.

[crackberry]

You've been PM-ed.

Hopefully their is room for those of us who are less perfect than they're admitted students. You know those Yalies, there somethin' else.

Did no one catch my joke?

Or is it just that unfunny?

Caught it. It is that unfunny.

[booboo]

If s/he attends Yale, s/he will fit in nicely.

[englawyer]

BioEBear is just so awesome that the typo didn't matter.

TITCR.

managamy, that phrase is out of fashion now. All the cool kids say "I agree" or "right" now, maybe "you are correct" if you want eloquence.

I'll be uber-cool and start going with Das ist die Kredittet Respaunz.

DIDKR

[tomhobbes]

I'll be uber-cool and start going with Das ist die Kredittet Respaunz.

DIDKR

Wrong.

[notanumber]

Did no one catch my joke?

Or is it just that unfunny?

You're joke was incredibly lame.

[dueprocess14]

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this thread now makes me want to withdraw from Y

+ 1 ( - Princess bride convo )

Strangely ironic: there's a screening of Princess Bride in the YLS Dining Hall tomorrow morning, as part of a student-organized Breakfast Club that's new this semester.

awesome. between hearing this type of stuff and reading the student perspective blogs I'm very excited for my near future... party at Brilmayer's sounds fantastic.

[BenJ]

You've been PM-ed.

Hopefully their is room for those of us who are less perfect than they're admitted students. You know those Yalies, there somethin' else.

Did no one catch my joke?

Or is it just that unfunny?

Actually, it was hilarious. I just couldn't think of any sufficiently amusing repartee to match it.

[ConMan345]

You've been PM-ed.

Hopefully their is room for those of us who are less perfect than they're admitted students. You know those Yalies, there somethin' else.

Did no one catch my joke?

Or is it just that unfunny?

Actually, it was hilarious. I just couldn't think of any sufficiently amusing repartee to match it.

Flattery will get you everywhere.

[BenJ]

You've been PM-ed.

Hopefully their is room for those of us who are less perfect than they're admitted students. You know those Yalies, there somethin' else.

Did no one catch my joke?

Or is it just that unfunny?

Actually, it was hilarious. I just couldn't think of any sufficiently amusing repartee to match it.

Flattery will get you everywhere.

I'm glad you agree.

[rowlf]

PSA: listen to Dosed, by the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Focus on the sick bass line.

Love that song, and that album actually. I'm pretty bass oriented in general.

More mundanely, I have been tooling around LSN for a while regarding Yale. Acceptances have been trickling out since December, and there were a bunch of rejections sent on or about January 29th, leaving maybe a quarter of those who submitted before Christmas pending. Some of those pending also clearly abandoned their LSN accounts. Here's hoping that many of those of us who submitted pre-Christmas but haven't heard have made it through to faculty review. I looked up what Asha said about it in her interview with AdmissionsDean.

On AdmissionsDean, Asha has said...

AR Well, fortunately, I feel very little pressure because our entire faculty participates in the admissions process. So, while I’d like to take credit for all the “good ones,” that really wouldn’t be fair.

Generally, the way it works is that I do the initial review of each application and at that point I have one of three options: (1) directly admit the person, (2) reject the person, or (3) to send the applicant file on for a faculty review. We have 60 permanent faculty members, and all of them participate in the faculty review process.

So, if I decide to send an applicant on for a faculty review, that person’s file goes to a faculty committee made up of three professors. Each committee receives about 50 files, which the professors will then individually read and score. It’s also important to note that the system is anonymous so the professors who make up the 3-person committee are unaware of who the other two faculty members are. Professors are then asked to score applicants on a score of 2 to 4 with a score of 4 being the highest -- and they have a curve so that they can only give so many 2’s, 3’s and 4’s. And, you have to remember that these are already files that have been pre-screened by me so they really are a very competitive bunch to begin with.

Each reader is free to use his or her own criteria. They can give weight for some things and discount for others and do whatever they want to do to come up with their ratings system. After a file has gone through three reads, the file comes back to the admissions office and we add up the scores. Applicants who receive a cumulative score of 12 -- which means they got 4’s from all three readers -- are extended an offer of admission. Generally, even applicants who receive a score of 11 -- which is a 4, 4, and a 3 -- are also admitted. Then, from the remaining scores we create a wait list from which some people may be released.

AD Roughly how many applicants receive an automatic admit from you and how many applicants do you pass along for faculty review?
AR I admit roughly 50-80 students a year directly. So let’s say in the end we extend about 250 offers of admission -- I’m making the decision to admit anywhere between 20-30% of those students. The remaining 70-80% -- the bulk of the students admitted -- are admitted by the faculty. In terms of the percentage of the entire pool of applicants who are sent to the faculty, I would say it is about 20%, which means that we have a lot of applicants who are flat out rejected after my initial review. But look, our applicant pool is around 3,500 students, so it still means that about 700-800 files go on to get reviewed by faculty -- and those, again, are the most competitive files.

The luxury we have is that we have more qualified people who apply to us than we can take and we really could fill our class 3-4 times over -- we just simply don’t have the room to do so. So, at some level, the distinctions we’re going to be making between applicants are highly subjective because we’re seeing a lot of applicants with great scores. The idea is that we have 60 different perspectives offering their opinions on whom we should admit and on whom we should pass. This helps us arrive at the final 200 or so people we choose to admit.

Now, sometimes I’m torn about whether to send an applicant along for a faculty review. When this happens, I first ask the other two people in my office -- Yale’s Director of Admissions and Director of Recruiting -- to take a look at the file and offer their thoughts. So, realistically, some applications actually receive up to six different reads. I really do my best to make sure that each application is thoroughly reviewed before any decisions are made and, most importantly, that our “first cut” is not based on scores and numbers alone.

[GeePee]

*Crosses fingers for positive faculty review*

[ConMan345]

Just sent!

Here's to hoping Dean Rangappa is good on her word that applying late doesn't hurt my chances (too much)!

[nycsource]

do we know how long it takes to go through faculty review?

Is it fair to assume that if I applied in mid october and haven't heard back yet that I went through faculty review but it wasn't a positive outcome and that I am on the waitlist?

[Kretzy]

do we know how long it takes to go through faculty review?

Is it fair to assume that if I applied in mid october and haven't heard back yet that I went through faculty review but it wasn't a positive outcome and that I am on the waitlist?

That is not a fair assumption, no.

[Pausanias]

This again makes me wonder whether those of us who were accepted in early December were Asha admits or a Professors admits. The reason I ask is I have heard about professors who recognize students based on the apps they read. Also, as a side note, I just had the pleasant surprise of running into a surprise Yale Law movie, Chances Are.

[Kretzy]

Anyone know when Yale's last admissions come out? I figure it's early-to-mid April, but that doesn't give folks who do get in much time to visit, I'd imagine.

Obviously, this has nothing to do with waitlisted folks.

[ConMan345]

Anyone know when Yale's last admissions come out? I figure it's early-to-mid April, but that doesn't give folks who do get in much time to visit, I'd imagine.

Obviously, this has nothing to do with waitlisted folks.

The blog says mid- to even late-April...

[tomhobbes]

Last year there was a massive tidal wave of decisions on April 15th.