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Re: NYU 2010

Postby Canadian » Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:40 am

cosmopolitan wrote:anyone have any ideas about why nyu fell to #6 this year? i was planning on attending nyu over chicago, and the rankings aren't especially important to me, but i'm wondering if there's anything behind it that i should know about -- i get that the difference between 5 and 6 is negligible, rankings aren't meaningful in cases of such a small difference, and nyu has consistently been in the top 5, but i've thought of nyu as an "upward-trajectory" school so this surprised me a little.


As someone else who is potentially NYU-bound, I too would like to know about this. Like cosmopolitan, I realize on an intellectual level that the difference between 5 and 6 is negligible, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't have a mini-freakout when I learned that NYU dropped out of the top 5 for the first time in over a decade.

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Re: NYU 2010

Postby badfish » Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:42 am

Canadian wrote:
cosmopolitan wrote:anyone have any ideas about why nyu fell to #6 this year? i was planning on attending nyu over chicago, and the rankings aren't especially important to me, but i'm wondering if there's anything behind it that i should know about -- i get that the difference between 5 and 6 is negligible, rankings aren't meaningful in cases of such a small difference, and nyu has consistently been in the top 5, but i've thought of nyu as an "upward-trajectory" school so this surprised me a little.


As someone else who is potentially NYU-bound, I too would like to know about this. Like cosmopolitan, I realize on an intellectual level that the difference between 5 and 6 is negligible, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't have a mini-freakout when I learned that NYU dropped out of the top 5 for the first time in over a decade.


It doesn't mean anything. Chicago is an excellent school that is less exposed to the NY market which was absolutely devastated during the crisis. Grades will matter much more than which of CCN you go to.

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Re: NYU 2010

Postby Helmholtz » Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:43 am

cosmopolitan wrote:anyone have any ideas about why nyu fell to #6 this year? i was planning on attending nyu over chicago, and the rankings aren't especially important to me, but i'm wondering if there's anything behind it that i should know about -- i get that the difference between 5 and 6 is negligible, rankings aren't meaningful in cases of such a small difference, and nyu has consistently been in the top 5, but i've thought of nyu as an "upward-trajectory" school so this surprised me a little.


A lot of people (including me) thought Chicago was the superior school long before USNWR decided to put Chi at #5.

And when you're a top 6 school, there's not much upward trajectory you can have, there will always be shuffling among CCN. Hell, NYU might be #4 by the time you graduate, who knows.

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Re: NYU 2010

Postby clintonius » Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:17 am

Also, it's probably worth noting that in terms of overall USNWR score, NYU did not lose any points -- it remained static while UChi and CLS increased. NYU is not dropping.

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Re: NYU 2010

Postby junelsat » Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:15 pm

The number of points is based on statistical normalization, and therefore the point totals and rankings are all relative. So while it didn't more relative to the number 1 school which score 100 points(Yale), it did fall relative to Columbia and Chicago.

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Re: NYU 2010

Postby Jericwithers » Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:16 pm

junelsat wrote:The number of points is based on statistical normalization, and therefore the point totals and rankings are all relative. So while it didn't more relative to the number 1 school which score 100 points(Yale), it did fall relative to Columbia and Chicago.


They even grade the schools on a curve? Dang.

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Re: NYU 2010

Postby starsong » Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:33 pm

Jericwithers wrote:
junelsat wrote:The number of points is based on statistical normalization, and therefore the point totals and rankings are all relative. So while it didn't more relative to the number 1 school which score 100 points(Yale), it did fall relative to Columbia and Chicago.


They even grade the schools on a curve? Dang.

Starting this August, life will be one big curve. It's just beginning...

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Re: NYU 2010

Postby Canadian » Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:16 pm

badfish wrote:
Canadian wrote:
cosmopolitan wrote:anyone have any ideas about why nyu fell to #6 this year? i was planning on attending nyu over chicago, and the rankings aren't especially important to me, but i'm wondering if there's anything behind it that i should know about -- i get that the difference between 5 and 6 is negligible, rankings aren't meaningful in cases of such a small difference, and nyu has consistently been in the top 5, but i've thought of nyu as an "upward-trajectory" school so this surprised me a little.


As someone else who is potentially NYU-bound, I too would like to know about this. Like cosmopolitan, I realize on an intellectual level that the difference between 5 and 6 is negligible, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't have a mini-freakout when I learned that NYU dropped out of the top 5 for the first time in over a decade.


It doesn't mean anything. Chicago is an excellent school that is less exposed to the NY market which was absolutely devastated during the crisis. Grades will matter much more than which of CCN you go to.


If the devastation to the NY market explains NYU's drop (or non-improvement in score, if you like), then how do we explain Columbia's 3-point rise?

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Re: NYU 2010

Postby tilghmab » Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:08 am

Still nothing - complete 11/3.

How frustrating.

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Re: NYU 2010

Postby cyh » Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:12 am

tilghmab wrote:Still nothing - complete 11/3.

How frustrating.


LOCI?

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Re: NYU 2010

Postby D Brooks » Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:14 am

I was able to access the admitted students site for a few days in early March and I thought I was in. Then my login stopped working. I never got an acceptance letter and when I called they said I was still UR although I applied on 10/26. Been UR for 5 months now :roll:

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Re: NYU 2010

Postby cyh » Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:15 am

D Brooks wrote:I was able to access the admitted students site for a few days in early March and I thought I was in. Then my login stopped working. I never got an acceptance letter and when I called they said I was still UR although I applied on 10/26. Been UR for 5 months now :roll:



:oops: that sucks. sorry to hear that.

have you sent a loci?

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Re: NYU 2010

Postby D Brooks » Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:17 am

cyh wrote:
D Brooks wrote:I was able to access the admitted students site for a few days in early March and I thought I was in. Then my login stopped working. I never got an acceptance letter and when I called they said I was still UR although I applied on 10/26. Been UR for 5 months now :roll:



:oops: that sucks. sorry to hear that.

have you sent a loci?


Sometime in late January they asked me to update with my fall semester grades. When I sent the transcript update a few weeks later I emailed them an LOCI as well.

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Re: NYU 2010

Postby cyh » Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:20 am

D Brooks wrote:
cyh wrote:
D Brooks wrote:I was able to access the admitted students site for a few days in early March and I thought I was in. Then my login stopped working. I never got an acceptance letter and when I called they said I was still UR although I applied on 10/26. Been UR for 5 months now :roll:



:oops: that sucks. sorry to hear that.

have you sent a loci?


Sometime in late January they asked me to update with my fall semester grades. When I sent the transcript update a few weeks later I emailed them an LOCI as well.


geesh! this must be frustrating.

I've been waiting for 3 months and already frustrated. I am on the fence with regards to sending an "unsolicited" LOCI...

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Re: NYU 2010

Postby starsong » Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:23 am

D Brooks wrote:I was able to access the admitted students site for a few days in early March and I thought I was in. Then my login stopped working. I never got an acceptance letter and when I called they said I was still UR although I applied on 10/26. Been UR for 5 months now :roll:

Wow so sorry to hear. I have a feeling we're all headed for the WL...

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Re: NYU 2010

Postby Helmholtz » Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:42 am

starsong wrote:
D Brooks wrote:I was able to access the admitted students site for a few days in early March and I thought I was in. Then my login stopped working. I never got an acceptance letter and when I called they said I was still UR although I applied on 10/26. Been UR for 5 months now :roll:

I have a feeling we're all headed for the WL...


titcr

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Re: NYU 2010

Postby tilghmab » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:32 pm

cyh wrote:
tilghmab wrote:Still nothing - complete 11/3.

How frustrating.


LOCI?


I'm not convinced that sending an LOCI before an initial decision (unless invited) is ever advantageous.

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Re: NYU 2010

Postby devilishangelrjp » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:47 pm

-_- These last two decisions are driving me nuts. Seriously, I'm watching Dora the Explorer and actually answering the questions like she can hear me.

April 20th apparently is the day they're going to have made all the decisions? Any changes to that date?

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Re: NYU 2010

Postby dakatz » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:55 pm

Lol so 6 months for a waiting for a straight up rejection. Hey, NYU, if I hadn't said it enough times before, go **** yourself.

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Re: NYU 2010

Postby xokel87 » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:19 pm

So I don't know if he/she reported it here, but it looks like someone recently got in -- http://lawschoolnumbers.com/meridian617 !

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Re: NYU 2010

Postby foxyeconomist » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:29 pm

Got the small envelop from NYU today. First official ding. Such a bummer because living in NYC is my dream.

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Re: NYU 2010

Postby starsong » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:30 pm

foxyeconomist wrote:Got the small envelop from NYU today. First official ding. Such a bummer because living in NYC is my dream.

If you don't mind sharing, where (approx.) do you live? When was the letter postmarked?

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Re: NYU 2010

Postby lovepink2 » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:32 pm

Whoa! There's finally some movement at NYU! Scary! I'm rushing home to check my mailbox NOW!!!

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Re: NYU 2010

Postby Helmholtz » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:36 pm

They wouldn't straight reject me after making me wait six and a half months, right? right? I'm guessing they would......those bastards.

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Re: NYU 2010

Postby Joan Hollaway » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:38 pm

live a mailing day away, still havent gotten anything :evil:




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