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Re: Columbia 2010

Postby booboo » Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:18 pm

englawyer wrote:btw i am held 2/9 at Columbia as well


Thoughts on what you will do next englawyer? :).

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Re: Columbia 2010

Postby Kronk » Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:19 pm

booboo wrote:
englawyer wrote:btw i am held 2/9 at Columbia as well


Thoughts on what you will do next englawyer? :).


I believe I had a Kanye picture on here that aptly demonstrates what englawyer will do...

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Re: Columbia 2010

Postby booboo » Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:21 pm

Sogui wrote:I would like to see some blatant examples of Columbia YP'ing, too many are just wishy-washy. Some people retake and only report the latest numbers so you'll see people from previous years getting rejected and held from schools with a 175/3.8 when the reality is that they were 168/3.8 during their actual cycle.


I think people are forgetting, being held is not a YP. It is an interest gauge. It basically becomes a tool for them to protect their yield by not extending offers to students who would withdraw. I think a 176/3.9 was held, and then claimed that s/he will withdraw. Also, someone else said that a significant number of held applicants are accepted, per last year's cycle.

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Re: Columbia 2010

Postby Kronk » Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:22 pm

booboo wrote:
Sogui wrote:I would like to see some blatant examples of Columbia YP'ing, too many are just wishy-washy. Some people retake and only report the latest numbers so you'll see people from previous years getting rejected and held from schools with a 175/3.8 when the reality is that they were 168/3.8 during their actual cycle.


I think people are forgetting, being held is not a YP. It is an interest gauge. It basically becomes a tool for them to protect their yield by not extending offers to students who would withdraw. I think a 176/3.9 was held, and then claimed that s/he will withdraw. Also, someone else said that a significant number of held applicants are accepted, per last year's cycle.


I thought it was stupid until I withdrew and realized it was totally effective.

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Re: Columbia 2010

Postby booboo » Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:23 pm

Kronk wrote:
booboo wrote:
Sogui wrote:I would like to see some blatant examples of Columbia YP'ing, too many are just wishy-washy. Some people retake and only report the latest numbers so you'll see people from previous years getting rejected and held from schools with a 175/3.8 when the reality is that they were 168/3.8 during their actual cycle.


I think people are forgetting, being held is not a YP. It is an interest gauge. It basically becomes a tool for them to protect their yield by not extending offers to students who would withdraw. I think a 176/3.9 was held, and then claimed that s/he will withdraw. Also, someone else said that a significant number of held applicants are accepted, per last year's cycle.


I thought it was stupid until I withdrew and realized it was totally effective.


Kronk, two things.

I hope I get into NYU.

I hope you go to an ASW at NYU, and that I have the opportunity to go to the same one.

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Re: Columbia 2010

Postby blue5385 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:23 pm

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Re: Columbia 2010

Postby Kronk » Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:25 pm

booboo wrote:Kronk, two things.

I hope I get into NYU.

I hope you go to an ASW at NYU, and that I have the opportunity to go to the same one.


I am going to the one in early March. Book your flight!

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Re: Columbia 2010

Postby blue5385 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:26 pm

Kronk wrote:
booboo wrote:Kronk, two things.

I hope I get into NYU.

I hope you go to an ASW at NYU, and that I have the opportunity to go to the same one.


I am going to the one in early March. Book your flight!


oh no, you guys are going to a different one than me! Guess I won't see you there

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Re: Columbia 2010

Postby CoaltoNewCastle » Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:27 pm

Sogui wrote:I would like to see some blatant examples of Columbia YP'ing, too many are just wishy-washy. Some people retake and only report the latest numbers so you'll see people from previous years getting rejected and held from schools with a 175/3.8 when the reality is that they were 168/3.8 during their actual cycle.


englawyer wrote:btw i am held 2/9 at Columbia as well


Englawyer has already gotten into Harvard. I wouldn't be surprised if he withdrew from Columbia, and I'm sure neither would they.

Also to Booboo, I think an interest gauge is yield protection. I think TLS posters have gotten so used to using the term "yield protection" for one kind of thing, but all it means it to protect the yield rate. An interest gauge protects a school's yield rate.

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Re: Columbia 2010

Postby Sogui » Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:28 pm

booboo wrote:
Sogui wrote:I would like to see some blatant examples of Columbia YP'ing, too many are just wishy-washy. Some people retake and only report the latest numbers so you'll see people from previous years getting rejected and held from schools with a 175/3.8 when the reality is that they were 168/3.8 during their actual cycle.


I think people are forgetting, being held is not a YP. It is an interest gauge. It basically becomes a tool for them to protect their yield by not extending offers to students who would withdraw. I think a 176/3.9 was held, and then claimed that s/he will withdraw. Also, someone else said that a significant number of held applicants are accepted, per last year's cycle.


Being a numbers twin to that 176/3.9, I believe this is the first time I've probably felt like I was in a WEAKER position by being accepted to a school that they were held at.

CLS: "Yea we accepted you because even with your numbers you don't stand a chance at HYS, bwahahaha"
CLS: "That other guy is probably going to get in though, so we held him... he actually had some decent softs"

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Re: Columbia 2010

Postby booboo » Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:29 pm

CoaltoNewCastle wrote:
Sogui wrote:I would like to see some blatant examples of Columbia YP'ing, too many are just wishy-washy. Some people retake and only report the latest numbers so you'll see people from previous years getting rejected and held from schools with a 175/3.8 when the reality is that they were 168/3.8 during their actual cycle.


englawyer wrote:btw i am held 2/9 at Columbia as well


Englawyer has already gotten into Harvard. I wouldn't be surprised if he withdrew from Columbia, and I'm sure neither would they.

Also to Booboo, I think an interest gauge is yield protection. I think TLS posters have gotten so used to using the term "yield protection" for one kind of thing, but all it means it to protect the yield rate. An interest gauge protects a school's yield rate.


I do agree with your point on this. But being held is not the same as the WL many other schools use for YP.

To demonstrate this, I believe if Columbia had waited another 4 weeks to make a decision on the candidates held (instead of sending held letters), very few would have withdrawn by then.

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Re: Columbia 2010

Postby CoaltoNewCastle » Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:30 pm

booboo wrote:
CoaltoNewCastle wrote:
Sogui wrote:I would like to see some blatant examples of Columbia YP'ing, too many are just wishy-washy. Some people retake and only report the latest numbers so you'll see people from previous years getting rejected and held from schools with a 175/3.8 when the reality is that they were 168/3.8 during their actual cycle.


englawyer wrote:btw i am held 2/9 at Columbia as well


Englawyer has already gotten into Harvard. I wouldn't be surprised if he withdrew from Columbia, and I'm sure neither would they.

Also to Booboo, I think an interest gauge is yield protection. I think TLS posters have gotten so used to using the term "yield protection" for one kind of thing, but all it means it to protect the yield rate. An interest gauge protects a school's yield rate.


I do agree with your point on this. But being held is not the same as the WL many other schools use for YP.

To demonstrate this, I believe if Columbia had waited another 4 weeks to make a decision on the candidates held (instead of sending held letters), very few would have withdrawn by then.


Exactly. It's a very minor, harmless form of YP.

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Re: Columbia 2010

Postby jsarna1 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:43 pm

People who were held: If Columbia is one of my top 2 choices, should I sent a LOCI? The letter I received doesn't mention anything about a letter, which is in stark contrast to Chicago which encouraged a letter (although I was waitlisted there...)

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Re: Columbia 2010

Postby kittenmittons » Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:46 pm

Kronk wrote:
booboo wrote:Kronk, two things.

I hope I get into NYU.

I hope you go to an ASW at NYU, and that I have the opportunity to go to the same one.


I am going to the one in early March. Book your flight!


when is this again? Around CLS ASW right?

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Re: Columbia 2010

Postby Kronk » Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:48 pm

kittenmittons wrote:
Kronk wrote:
booboo wrote:Kronk, two things.

I hope I get into NYU.

I hope you go to an ASW at NYU, and that I have the opportunity to go to the same one.


I am going to the one in early March. Book your flight!


when is this again? Around CLS ASW right?


3-4? Or maybe 4-5? One of those two.

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Re: Columbia 2010

Postby janer » Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:49 pm

jsarna1 wrote:People who were held: If Columbia is one of my top 2 choices, should I sent a LOCI? The letter I received doesn't mention anything about a letter, which is in stark contrast to Chicago which encouraged a letter (although I was waitlisted there...)

The held letter states that you can submit additional materials so I think you should send a LOCI.

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Re: Columbia 2010

Postby blue5385 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:50 pm

Kronk wrote:
kittenmittons wrote:
Kronk wrote:
booboo wrote:Kronk, two things.

I hope I get into NYU.

I hope you go to an ASW at NYU, and that I have the opportunity to go to the same one.


I am going to the one in early March. Book your flight!


when is this again? Around CLS ASW right?


3-4? Or maybe 4-5? One of those two.


4-5

edit: You guys should all come to the late March one instead!

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Re: Columbia 2010

Postby $1.99 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:58 pm

since we can turn in additional materials until 3/31, i am assuming they will not get back to us held applicants until april?

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Re: Columbia 2010

Postby kittenmittons » Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:59 pm

Kronk wrote:
kittenmittons wrote:
Kronk wrote:
booboo wrote:Kronk, two things.

I hope I get into NYU.

I hope you go to an ASW at NYU, and that I have the opportunity to go to the same one.


I am going to the one in early March. Book your flight!


when is this again? Around CLS ASW right?


3-4? Or maybe 4-5? One of those two.


Meetup imo. Bring your gf

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Re: Columbia 2010

Postby amputatedbrain » Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:14 pm

Joining the thread . . . never bothered because I figured I was an auto-reject candidate, but got my hold notice in the mail today, so now I'm revving up for the long game.

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Re: Columbia 2010

Postby lz06 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:16 pm

Damn still nothing in my mailbox. Complete 9/21... now I'm nervous that I'm in the 2/11 rejection batch. bah!

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Re: Columbia 2010

Postby Kronk » Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:20 pm

kittenmittons wrote:Meetup imo. Bring your gf



You're bringing your gf to ASW?

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Re: Columbia 2010

Postby kittenmittons » Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:23 pm

Kronk wrote:
kittenmittons wrote:Meetup imo. Bring your gf



You're bringing your gf to ASW?


no

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Re: Columbia 2010

Postby Kronk » Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:27 pm

kittenmittons wrote:
Kronk wrote:
kittenmittons wrote:Meetup imo. Bring your gf



You're bringing your gf to ASW?


no


Well played.

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Re: Columbia 2010

Postby Snoopy1216 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:37 pm

lz06 wrote:Damn still nothing in my mailbox. Complete 9/21... now I'm nervous that I'm in the 2/11 rejection batch. bah!


What 2/11 batch? The only postmarks I;ve read is 2/8-acc, 2/9- acc+waitlist+held, 2/10-rej+waitlist... No 2/11. Am I missing something?
BTW, seems everything is mixed and we have no idea what is coming.




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