people seem to hate the random chatter, and there isn't much to report on the actual admissions front. I dunno, I'm kinda burned out on status checking. I just want to say fuck it and if I get an email or letter, whatever.swc65 wrote:Is the world ending? Over an hour and no activity on this thread? Maybe you all passed out from stress!
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Quick question: Does anybody know how much or little CLS emphasizes legacy? My father went there, so I'm trying to gauge if I'll get any real boost. Otherwise, I don't expect to be too competitive (LSAT: 169, LSDAS GPA: 3.68, RD, non-URM).
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Has your father given tons of money to the school?xcountryjunkie wrote:Quick question: Does anybody know how much or little CLS emphasizes legacy? My father went there, so I'm trying to gauge if I'll get any real boost. Otherwise, I don't expect to be too competitive (LSAT: 169, LSDAS GPA: 3.68, RD, non-URM).
Really, I don't see it making an impact at all.
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Nope, hence the problemHelmholtz wrote:Has your father given tons of money to the school?xcountryjunkie wrote:Quick question: Does anybody know how much or little CLS emphasizes legacy? My father went there, so I'm trying to gauge if I'll get any real boost. Otherwise, I don't expect to be too competitive (LSAT: 169, LSDAS GPA: 3.68, RD, non-URM).
Really, I don't see it making an impact at all.
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just to clarify, he went to the law school right? not undergrad? if so it might make a marginal difference, but you'd have to be very borderline.xcountryjunkie wrote:Nope, hence the problemHelmholtz wrote:Has your father given tons of money to the school?xcountryjunkie wrote:Quick question: Does anybody know how much or little CLS emphasizes legacy? My father went there, so I'm trying to gauge if I'll get any real boost. Otherwise, I don't expect to be too competitive (LSAT: 169, LSDAS GPA: 3.68, RD, non-URM).
Really, I don't see it making an impact at all.
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So, I got a little bored at work (and I'm not a Gossip Girl viewer so I have nothing to contribute on that front), so I decided to play around with LSN.
I put the EDers that I think are probably real (blueprint4, rx3r, tofu, Lrae, Taylor, azntwice, irie, and natedgr8) and came up with these #s
Average index = 4.30
Average LSAT = 172.6
Average uGPA = 3.66
I did the same for the EDers I found in 2008 (whizchan, athena376, Jack226, britishseapower, zornstar, leapingpanther, engineeringlawyer) and came up with this:
Average index = 4.28
Average LSAT = 173.0
Average GPA = 3.59
Anyway, there didn't seem to be a huge difference. I also noticed that many of the mid to low 4.2 EDers in the last cycle were accepted after the first batch. However, there seem to be a few more EDers this cycle already accepted.
I put the EDers that I think are probably real (blueprint4, rx3r, tofu, Lrae, Taylor, azntwice, irie, and natedgr8) and came up with these #s
Average index = 4.30
Average LSAT = 172.6
Average uGPA = 3.66
I did the same for the EDers I found in 2008 (whizchan, athena376, Jack226, britishseapower, zornstar, leapingpanther, engineeringlawyer) and came up with this:
Average index = 4.28
Average LSAT = 173.0
Average GPA = 3.59
Anyway, there didn't seem to be a huge difference. I also noticed that many of the mid to low 4.2 EDers in the last cycle were accepted after the first batch. However, there seem to be a few more EDers this cycle already accepted.
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I might have had a decent shot at CLS ED after all.
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thanks rx3r, that was interesting. Do we think that the average index for ED acceptances is lower or higher than for RD?
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I would guess it is lower.puppins wrote:thanks rx3r, that was interesting. Do we think that the average index for ED acceptances is lower or higher than for RD?
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Of the top of my head I'd guess lower, but I'd have to look into it more.puppins wrote:thanks rx3r, that was interesting. Do we think that the average index for ED acceptances is lower or higher than for RD?
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it'd make more sense if it were lower
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I quickly fiddled around with LSP and a 172, 3.745 appears to be the median with an index of 4.321. I don't know about average.rx3r wrote:Of the top of my head I'd guess lower, but I'd have to look into it more.puppins wrote:thanks rx3r, that was interesting. Do we think that the average index for ED acceptances is lower or higher than for RD?
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but it wouldn't make sense for ED to be lower. Think about it; ED is good for a school when it lets you lock down someone that you want in your class without hurting your yield. If they are admitting people with lower indexes, they don't get someone who is numerically advantageous OR someone who would have a lot of better options and is thus unlikely to accept their offer.Tofu wrote:it'd make more sense if it were lower
EDIT: that is not to say that it isn't lower, though.
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Since you've already got the numbers together, any chance of getting some medians?rx3r wrote:So, I got a little bored at work (and I'm not a Gossip Girl viewer so I have nothing to contribute on that front), so I decided to play around with LSN.
Edit: I see you already got this. Thanks.
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I don't know if it will mean much since the groups I looked at were respectively 8 and 7 applicants.Lermontov wrote:Since you've already got the numbers together, any chance of getting some medians?rx3r wrote:So, I got a little bored at work (and I'm not a Gossip Girl viewer so I have nothing to contribute on that front), so I decided to play around with LSN.
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rx3r wrote:I quickly fiddled around with LSP and a 172, 3.745 appears to be the median with an index of 4.321. I don't know about average.rx3r wrote:Of the top of my head I'd guess lower, but I'd have to look into it more.puppins wrote:thanks rx3r, that was interesting. Do we think that the average index for ED acceptances is lower or higher than for RD?
from the Columbia Law School website:
LSAT Median: 172
LSAT Mean: 171
LSAT 25/75 Percentile: 170/175
UGPA Median: 3.72
UGPA Mean: 3.69
UGPA 25/75 Percentile: 3.60/3.81
http://www.law.columbia.edu/jd_applican ... assprofile
edit: sry, this includes both ED and RD and URM/NR, so prob not relevant.
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I like that the two of us should stop caring about this sort of thing, and yet we do it anyway. Lol.irie wrote:rx3r wrote:I quickly fiddled around with LSP and a 172, 3.745 appears to be the median with an index of 4.321. I don't know about average.rx3r wrote:Of the top of my head I'd guess lower, but I'd have to look into it more.puppins wrote:thanks rx3r, that was interesting. Do we think that the average index for ED acceptances is lower or higher than for RD?
from the Columbia Law School website:
LSAT Median: 172
LSAT Mean: 171
LSAT 25/75 Percentile: 170/175
UGPA Median: 3.72
UGPA Mean: 3.69
UGPA 25/75 Percentile: 3.60/3.81
http://www.law.columbia.edu/jd_applican ... assprofile
edit: sry, this includes both ED and RD and URM/NR, so prob not relevant.
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Re: Columbia 2010
oh, i was just thinking that the adcomm would prefer to have a higher index, with exceptions being that the adcomm sees some people it really likespuppins wrote:but it wouldn't make sense for ED to be lower. Think about it; ED is good for a school when it lets you lock down someone that you want in your class without hurting your yield. If they are admitting people with lower indexes, they don't get someone who is numerically advantageous OR someone who would have a lot of better options and is thus unlikely to accept their offer.Tofu wrote:it'd make more sense if it were lower
so then the situation would be that people with higher #s are just applying RD because they want a chance at HYS, while those with slightly lower #s are applying ED
though.... i could be totally wrong. i have no idea what the adcomm is thinking!
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Did this thread really grow from 16 pages to 33 in the last few days (or am I mixing things up)? What the hell is going on?
Edit: Nevermind, just saw LSN. What is the status of HELM!?
Edit: Nevermind, just saw LSN. What is the status of HELM!?
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I'm surprised they haven't taken any >175 people yet. I know there's more than a few of us ED...irie wrote:rx3r wrote:I quickly fiddled around with LSP and a 172, 3.745 appears to be the median with an index of 4.321. I don't know about average.rx3r wrote:Of the top of my head I'd guess lower, but I'd have to look into it more.puppins wrote:thanks rx3r, that was interesting. Do we think that the average index for ED acceptances is lower or higher than for RD?
from the Columbia Law School website:
LSAT Median: 172
LSAT Mean: 171
LSAT 25/75 Percentile: 170/175
UGPA Median: 3.72
UGPA Mean: 3.69
UGPA 25/75 Percentile: 3.60/3.81
http://www.law.columbia.edu/jd_applican ... assprofile
edit: sry, this includes both ED and RD and URM/NR, so prob not relevant.
hint hint to you lurking adcomms
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Gossip Girl happened.VoidSix wrote:Did this thread really grow from 16 pages to 33 in the last few days (or am I mixing things up)? What the hell is going on?
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i think it was the best distraction from waiting we've had so far in the waiting threads.irie wrote:Gossip Girl happened.VoidSix wrote:Did this thread really grow from 16 pages to 33 in the last few days (or am I mixing things up)? What the hell is going on?
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Not in. Expecting a rejection/deferral like I did going in. That's not to say I wouldn't be pleasantly surprised by CLS proving me wrong....VoidSix wrote: Edit: Nevermind, just saw LSN. What is the status of HELM!?
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I generally wonder what schools get out of ED, other then a (small) impact on yield.Tofu wrote: oh, i was just thinking that the adcomm would prefer to have a higher index, with exceptions being that the adcomm sees some people it really likes
so then the situation would be that people with higher #s are just applying RD because they want a chance at HYS, while those with slightly lower #s are applying ED
though.... i could be totally wrong. i have no idea what the adcomm is thinking!
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less agita, more monies?puppins wrote:I generally wonder what schools get out of ED, other then a (small) impact on yield.Tofu wrote: oh, i was just thinking that the adcomm would prefer to have a higher index, with exceptions being that the adcomm sees some people it really likes
so then the situation would be that people with higher #s are just applying RD because they want a chance at HYS, while those with slightly lower #s are applying ED
though.... i could be totally wrong. i have no idea what the adcomm is thinking!
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