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Re: U Chicago 2010

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:31 pm
by ClemCarter
crackberry wrote:
ClemCarter wrote:
crackberry wrote:Chicago is relatively conservative and leans more toward BigLaw than any other T6 except maybe Columbia.


When you say "Chicago," who do you mean? Faculty? Students? How does a school "lean"?

Faculty. I don't know how this rubs off on the students.

And a higher percentage of Chicago grads go into BigLaw than any other T6 except maybe Columbia.

Consequently, my PI-focused PS and thinly veiled liberalism might have rubbed them the wrong way.


Chicago has a pretty small class size, so its proportion of BigLaw-bound grads may be misleading (esp vis-a-vis CLS). And I don't really understand how perceived faculty politics (are you referring to the Law and Econ specialists?) would impact admissions. I don't think the faculty reviews applicants.

Not trying to be devil's advocate; I'm just also PI-oriented and got in during the first wave with so-so numbers.

(Also very defensive about stereotypes about Chicago conservatism.)

Re: U Chicago 2010

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:34 pm
by amidea
ChaotiCait wrote:I was a 2/4 UR, I know two people with last names B and C who were called around 3


I'm also B.

Re: U Chicago 2010

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:35 pm
by hopefulincal
kbo026 wrote:In!!! 173/3.5! :D :D


Yes!! This gives me hope!!

Re: U Chicago 2010

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:35 pm
by lawyering
ClemCarter wrote:
crackberry wrote:
ClemCarter wrote:
crackberry wrote:Chicago is relatively conservative and leans more toward BigLaw than any other T6 except maybe Columbia.


When you say "Chicago," who do you mean? Faculty? Students? How does a school "lean"?

Faculty. I don't know how this rubs off on the students.

And a higher percentage of Chicago grads go into BigLaw than any other T6 except maybe Columbia.

Consequently, my PI-focused PS and thinly veiled liberalism might have rubbed them the wrong way.


Chicago has a pretty small class size, so its proportion of BigLaw-bound grads may be misleading (esp vis-a-vis CLS). And I don't really understand how perceived faculty politics (are you referring to the Law and Econ specialists?) would impact admissions. I don't think the faculty reviews applicants.

Not trying to be devil's advocate; I'm just also PI-oriented and got in during the first wave with so-so numbers.

(Also very defensive about stereotypes about Chicago conservatism.)



I think you're right that it is a stereotype, which may or may not be completely valid right now. Most of the top schools are leaning pretty liberal right now, from what I can tell. However, class size shouldn't have an effect on proportions, no?

Re: U Chicago 2010

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:36 pm
by crackberry
ClemCarter wrote:Chicago has a pretty small class size, so its proportion of BigLaw-bound grads may be misleading (esp vis-a-vis CLS). And I don't really understand how perceived faculty politics (are you referring to the Law and Econ specialists?) would impact admissions. I don't think the faculty reviews applicants.

Not trying to be devil's advocate; I'm just also PI-oriented and got in during the first wave with so-so numbers.

(Also very defensive about stereotypes about Chicago conservatism.)

Compare Chicago to "peer" (I use this term loosely) schools like HYS, NYU, Berkeley. All those schools - including places like Yale and Stanford with similarly small class sizes - send a higher percentage of their graduates into non-BigLaw jobs. Even if you compare it to MVP, Chicago sends a more kids to BigLaw when adjusted for class size.

Re: U Chicago 2010

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:39 pm
by ValiantVic
Anyone under review 1/30 get in? Me thinks this doesn't bode well...

Re: U Chicago 2010

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:40 pm
by of Benito Cereno
bah. missed phone call from 'unknown' number (outside of us, so all american numbers are 'unknown' on my us cell). no message. bah

Re: U Chicago 2010

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:43 pm
by lawyering
I'm in!! Got the call JUST now. last name T-Z, 170/3.97 :D

Re: U Chicago 2010

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:44 pm
by 09042014
crackberry wrote:
ClemCarter wrote:Chicago has a pretty small class size, so its proportion of BigLaw-bound grads may be misleading (esp vis-a-vis CLS). And I don't really understand how perceived faculty politics (are you referring to the Law and Econ specialists?) would impact admissions. I don't think the faculty reviews applicants.

Not trying to be devil's advocate; I'm just also PI-oriented and got in during the first wave with so-so numbers.

(Also very defensive about stereotypes about Chicago conservatism.)

Compare Chicago to "peer" (I use this term loosely) schools like HYS, NYU, Berkeley. All those schools - including places like Yale and Stanford with similarly small class sizes - send a higher percentage of their graduates into non-BigLaw jobs. Even if you compare it to MVP, Chicago sends a more kids to BigLaw when adjusted for class size.


Epic anti Columbia trolling.

Re: U Chicago 2010

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:46 pm
by big_blue79
I sent an important addendum to every school 12 days ago, and received a confirmation e-mail within 48 hours from every school, except Chicago. Finally, after 12 days, I received an e-mail from Chicago admissions, which was the epitome of anti-climatic. "Got it." Thanks, UC.

Re: U Chicago 2010

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:46 pm
by wishfulnyc
Anybody UR 1/11 --> 2/4 have good news??

Re: U Chicago 2010

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:47 pm
by crackberry
Desert Fox wrote:
crackberry wrote:
ClemCarter wrote:Chicago has a pretty small class size, so its proportion of BigLaw-bound grads may be misleading (esp vis-a-vis CLS). And I don't really understand how perceived faculty politics (are you referring to the Law and Econ specialists?) would impact admissions. I don't think the faculty reviews applicants.

Not trying to be devil's advocate; I'm just also PI-oriented and got in during the first wave with so-so numbers.

(Also very defensive about stereotypes about Chicago conservatism.)

Compare Chicago to "peer" (I use this term loosely) schools like HYS, NYU, Berkeley. All those schools - including places like Yale and Stanford with similarly small class sizes - send a higher percentage of their graduates into non-BigLaw jobs. Even if you compare it to MVP, Chicago sends a more kids to BigLaw when adjusted for class size.


Epic anti Columbia trolling.

Nah, see my earlier post where I established that Columbia is maybe the only T10 that places a higher % into BigLaw than Chicago. I left it out of this post on purpose for that reason.

Re: U Chicago 2010

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:49 pm
by natalie123
In!! Stats are in my profile. I really wanted this one... :mrgreen:

Re: U Chicago 2010

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:49 pm
by opus127
Congratulations to everyone getting calls today!

If they're going alphabetically, it looks like I'm not on the call list. :|

Re: U Chicago 2010

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:50 pm
by 09042014
crackberry wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
crackberry wrote:
ClemCarter wrote:Chicago has a pretty small class size, so its proportion of BigLaw-bound grads may be misleading (esp vis-a-vis CLS). And I don't really understand how perceived faculty politics (are you referring to the Law and Econ specialists?) would impact admissions. I don't think the faculty reviews applicants.

Not trying to be devil's advocate; I'm just also PI-oriented and got in during the first wave with so-so numbers.

(Also very defensive about stereotypes about Chicago conservatism.)

Compare Chicago to "peer" (I use this term loosely) schools like HYS, NYU, Berkeley. All those schools - including places like Yale and Stanford with similarly small class sizes - send a higher percentage of their graduates into non-BigLaw jobs. Even if you compare it to MVP, Chicago sends a more kids to BigLaw when adjusted for class size.


Epic anti Columbia trolling.

Nah, see my earlier post where I established that Columbia is maybe the only T10 that places a higher % into BigLaw than Chicago. I left it out of this post on purpose for that reason.


Damn. Would have been some good trolling though.

Also Berkeley isn't a Chicago peer. Only in USNWR land is that true.

Re: U Chicago 2010

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:50 pm
by ConMan345
In!! : D

Stats in profile/LSN. UR 1/11

In CA as well

Re: U Chicago 2010

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:51 pm
by ndirish2010
Complete on 2/4!

I'm an auto-reject (3.66/168), but I'm excited nonetheless.

Re: U Chicago 2010

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:51 pm
by booboo
I fear those with application received dates in late December/early January are WL bound (with >= medians). On the other hand, congrats to all the admits. :).

Re: U Chicago 2010

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:52 pm
by blue5385
The admitted splitters on this thread make me happy. But Chicago, please don't fill up all your splitter spots before you even get a chance to look at my app. :(

Congrats to everyone who has gotten in so far today!!

Re: U Chicago 2010

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:52 pm
by crackberry
Desert Fox wrote:Damn. Would have been some good trolling though.

Also Berkeley isn't a Chicago peer. Only in USNWR land is that true.

True. Neither are MVP, but I was just trying to prove a point.

Re: U Chicago 2010

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:52 pm
by seamonkey
Desert Fox wrote:Also Berkeley isn't a Chicago peer. Only in USNWR land is that true.


Berkeley > Chicago? Or Chicago > Berkeley? (Where "greater than" equals "better than.")

Re: U Chicago 2010

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:53 pm
by crackberry
seamonkey wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Also Berkeley isn't a Chicago peer. Only in USNWR land is that true.


Berkeley > Chicago? Or Chicago > Berkeley? (Where "greater than" equals "better than.")

He is arguing that Chicago > Berkeley (and that Chicago > NYU probably).

Re: U Chicago 2010

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:55 pm
by TXDeac
I got a call from them but didn't answer and listened to the voicemail. They just said (basically), "Hey, this call is for *lol*, we're wanting to update you on your admissions status. Please see e-mail, and call us if you have questions."

Odd? I assume it's a waitlist or something of the sort.

Re: U Chicago 2010

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:56 pm
by tamlyric
natalie123 wrote:In!! Stats are in my profile. I really wanted this one... :mrgreen:


congrats! :D

Re: U Chicago 2010

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:56 pm
by crackberry
Delete your name dude.

Also, you're in.