Harvard 2010!

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby georgina » Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:16 pm

babaghanouj wrote:Wow. I'm surprised at the expectations/sense of entitlement ITT. My numbers aren't too shabby either, but I'm not demanding/expecting anything at this point--even an interview. But I guess each person knows his/her own application best...


i don't think anyone in this thread is demanding/expecting anything... "we're plenty competitive to not have to stress about the interviews yet" does not sound like entitlement to me. it kind of sounds like 2 people allaying each other's possible stress/worries.

anyway, +1 getting the complete email. good to hear people with good stats also got the email, as i'm pretty worried about being a splitter. i <3 HLS!

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby babaghanouj » Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:58 pm

Meh, I was mainly referring to the earlier (and now edited) post consisting of "I'd better get an interview--my impressive numbers are X and X." I mean, we all know HLS is a numbers school, but I was a little surprised at the lack of deference for the h-bomb.

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby Kronk » Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:14 pm

I'm not really expecting an interview. I figure it's a coin toss. Who knows.

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby DoubleChecks » Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:26 pm

babaghanouj wrote:Meh, I was mainly referring to the earlier (and now edited) post consisting of "I'd better get an interview--my impressive numbers are X and X." I mean, we all know HLS is a numbers school, but I was a little surprised at the lack of deference for the h-bomb.


haha sry i can see why that sentence may be read in a more negative light. it wasnt so much a demand but rather like when someone says oh man i better get so and so in a manner to boost their own confidence that it would happen. like oh man i better have gotten that question right on the test! i worked so hard at it and thought i figured it out!. so sry, irl i did not say (think) it in a 'demanding' tone...mm hard to describe in words w/o the inflections lol. online post fail :P

also, keep in mind that in no way is an interview 'stage 2' of the app process. its merely another part that some applicants (and all that are admitted) get. i do not feel like i am an auto admit to HLS...it would be my DREAM to get in and every day i hope i get a shot at it, but at the same time, i also believe im competitive enough where they would be seriously considering me (albeit i may eventually not make the cut)...to at least interview me and have that evaluative portion to attach to my app.

so demand? far from it lol, i think you unfairly represented the latter half of my comment and its intentions w/ the misquote.

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby triplecats » Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:33 pm

Under review. Also under their medians, but nonetheless, I am joining your party, friends.

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby protokurios » Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:53 am

Man, I had no idea the admissions process for Harvard was so involved, with this many chances for speculation. In any case, count me in for the party, though Harvard's a weak consider for me on LSP. I'll definitely be keeping up with this thread.

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby Kronk » Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:02 am

I don't trust LSP ever since it said I have a 76% chance at Stanford (apparently I'm an "admit"). Everywhere else is a coin toss or less, and I refuse to be optimistic.

Welcome to the funhouse.

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby DoubleChecks » Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:06 am

VoidSix wrote:I don't trust LSP ever since it said I have a 76% chance at Stanford (apparently I'm an "admit"). Everywhere else is a coin toss or less, and I refuse to be optimistic.

Welcome to the funhouse.


by everywhere else, do you mean everywhere else in HYS? lol, i dont see how HY could be a coin toss and CCN or MVBP being a coin toss as well

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby joshikousei » Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:08 am

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby hmar78 » Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:14 am

Is it just me or does Rocketman11 have the bestess avatar ever????

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby Kronk » Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:26 am

DoubleChecks wrote:
VoidSix wrote:I don't trust LSP ever since it said I have a 76% chance at Stanford (apparently I'm an "admit"). Everywhere else is a coin toss or less, and I refuse to be optimistic.

Welcome to the funhouse.


by everywhere else, do you mean everywhere else in HYS? lol, i dont see how HY could be a coin toss and CCN or MVBP being a coin toss as well


By everywhere else I meant other prediction websites. Aren't Hourumd and LSP supposedly both based on LSN data? Because on LSP, I'm 54% Harvard, 76% Stanford, and on Hourumd, the numbers are essentially reversed. Very odd. Anyway, GOD BLESS US, EVERY ONE!

Good luck, all.

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby Rocketman11 » Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:41 am

hmar78 wrote:Is it just me or does Rocketman11 have the bestess avatar ever????


Actually I think you should qualify that it's the best that this site will allow. I have better ones but they get censored :)

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby babaghanouj » Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:16 am

DoubleChecks wrote:
babaghanouj wrote:Meh, I was mainly referring to the earlier (and now edited) post consisting of "I'd better get an interview--my impressive numbers are X and X." I mean, we all know HLS is a numbers school, but I was a little surprised at the lack of deference for the h-bomb.


haha sry i can see why that sentence may be read in a more negative light. it wasnt so much a demand but rather like when someone says oh man i better get so and so in a manner to boost their own confidence that it would happen. like oh man i better have gotten that question right on the test! i worked so hard at it and thought i figured it out!. so sry, irl i did not say (think) it in a 'demanding' tone...mm hard to describe in words w/o the inflections lol. online post fail :P

also, keep in mind that in no way is an interview 'stage 2' of the app process. its merely another part that some applicants (and all that are admitted) get. i do not feel like i am an auto admit to HLS...it would be my DREAM to get in and every day i hope i get a shot at it, but at the same time, i also believe im competitive enough where they would be seriously considering me (albeit i may eventually not make the cut)...to at least interview me and have that evaluative portion to attach to my app.

so demand? far from it lol, i think you unfairly represented the latter half of my comment and its intentions w/ the misquote.


Ah, I see where you're coming from. As for the misquote, I was paraphrasing from memory given the edit.

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby Lmao Zedong » Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:48 pm

DoubleChecks wrote: i also believe im competitive enough where they would be seriously considering me (albeit i may eventually not make the cut)...to at least interview me and have that evaluative portion to attach to my app.


for what it's worth, getting interviewed probably shouldn't be considered an "at least" kind of thing. getting interviewed is awesome. statistically, it means you're likely to get in.

hasn't it historically been the case that something like 80% of interviewees are accepted?

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby eire1013 » Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:53 pm

my school also does not disclose, so i left it blank. it's harvard....this isn't the biggest concern for them

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby Reinhardt » Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:49 am

Here's hoping they like my LSAT score. Submitted my app a couple days ago.

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby eire1013 » Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:37 pm

VoidSix wrote:I don't trust LSP ever since it said I have a 76% chance at Stanford (apparently I'm an "admit"). Everywhere else is a coin toss or less, and I refuse to be optimistic.

Welcome to the funhouse.



the % given by lsp has nothing to do with percent chance of acceptance, but everyone seems to think so. all it means is the percentage of current students whose number are belowe your own (which itself is a decent indicator of application strength. lsp offers no % chance, just the "accept, consider, deny, etc." categories

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby Kronk » Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:46 pm

eire1013 wrote:
VoidSix wrote:I don't trust LSP ever since it said I have a 76% chance at Stanford (apparently I'm an "admit"). Everywhere else is a coin toss or less, and I refuse to be optimistic.

Welcome to the funhouse.



the % given by lsp has nothing to do with percent chance of acceptance, but everyone seems to think so. all it means is the percentage of current students whose number are belowe your own (which itself is a decent indicator of application strength. lsp offers no % chance, just the "accept, consider, deny, etc." categories


I understand how the system works, and I think it's flawed, because YC DOES consider that to be a chance of admission. That's why he has it set to say "Consider / Strong Consider / Admit."

Edit: That is not a knock against YC. I think he's awesome, and LSP is as good as it gets. But inherently, predicting whether or not someone will get into law school is an impossible task.
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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby DoubleChecks » Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:49 pm

GargamelITT wrote:for what it's worth, getting interviewed probably shouldn't be considered an "at least" kind of thing. getting interviewed is awesome. statistically, it means you're likely to get in.

hasn't it historically been the case that something like 80% of interviewees are accepted?


haha half the days i think this way, and the other half i dwell on the big chunk (300/1100 ish) that do NOT get in :P, and i cant help but wonder sometimes which group i would fall into.

everyone goes in w/ a level of confidence attached to their app, and for me, i am really hoping to have 'at least' an interview. i guess it is more of my way of saying, hey look, consolation prize! haha

i know everyone (or almost everyone) who is applying to harvard really hopes to make it in, w/ some thinking optimistically and others pessimistically, and in the end, some will be right and others will be wrong. i just want to approach it w/ a certain level of confidence and hope that, regardless of the final decision, my confidence will remain intact lol.

so once again, best of luck to you all!

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby Lmao Zedong » Sat Oct 10, 2009 2:16 pm

VoidSix wrote:
eire1013 wrote:
VoidSix wrote:I don't trust LSP ever since it said I have a 76% chance at Stanford (apparently I'm an "admit"). Everywhere else is a coin toss or less, and I refuse to be optimistic.

Welcome to the funhouse.



the % given by lsp has nothing to do with percent chance of acceptance, but everyone seems to think so. all it means is the percentage of current students whose number are belowe your own (which itself is a decent indicator of application strength. lsp offers no % chance, just the "accept, consider, deny, etc." categories


I understand how the system works, and I think it's flawed, because YC DOES consider that to be a chance of admission. That's why he has it set to say "Consider / Strong Consider / Admit."


i asked him about that when he had his "open chat hours" several days ago on LSP, and he told me the % should not be viewed as chance of admission, but instead like the above poster said just a general "indicator of app strength" relative to the pool that ultimately goes to that school.

2 main reasons why it isn't a straight up % chance:

- the percentage figure you get is for matriculating students, not admits. in general (not just for HLS), if you take a school's two groups "admitted students" and "matriculating students," the former group will as a whole have better numbers than the latter, because the former is composed of "matriculating students" + "students who got into a higher ranked school and went to it instead". thus the overall profile for the matriculating group isn't as impressive, but that's what is used for the LSP percentage. so, in theory this would inflate the percentage it gives you somewhat, since it's comparing you against a weaker overall group.
the smaller a school's yield is, the greater this effect is, because there will be a greater disparity between the two groups. of course here we're talking about HLS which for obvious reasons has a very high yield so this effect is probably minimal, but as a general evaluation of LSP i think it's pretty important.

- there might be certain points along the "spectrum" at which you are simply an auto-admit for a given school, yet there could still very well be students applying (and attending) who have higher numbers than you. say a school auto-admits anyone with an index of 10 or above. but, 20% of matriculating students have a 10 or above. if you have a 10 and plug into LSP, it'll tell you 80% (since 20% of the matriculating class beats you), which will be misleading because you actually have (essentially) a 100% chance of being admitted.
again this is probably mitigated at HLS because it's questionable whether anybody is a HLS auto-admit. but it's something that also is pretty important for LSP as a whole

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby Kronk » Sat Oct 10, 2009 2:29 pm

Yeah, I think for a lot of schools, that's definitely true. And for most schools, LSP is the best predictor on the internet. However, for Stanford / Yale / Harvard / Columbia, I think it's moot. Particularly Stanford and Yale. One poster on here got into Stanford with a 168 / 3.95, and another got rejected (not even waitlisted) with a 178 / 3.95 (although he ended up at Yale). Stanford and Yale are just too much about intangibles. Being better than 76% of the matriculates number-wise means very little.

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby BaiAilian2013 » Sun Oct 11, 2009 12:44 pm

Rocketman11 wrote:
hmar78 wrote:Is it just me or does Rocketman11 have the bestess avatar ever????


Actually I think you should qualify that it's the best that this site will allow. I have better ones but they get censored :)


Yeah, I like this one. Your old one always kinda bothered me because it looked like the one girl was not so much kissing the other girl as gnawing on her lower lip.

Oh yeah, and Harvard got my $97 in mid-Sept.

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby nycsource » Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:25 pm

This is probably super paranoid but I got an additional status checker mailings entry today duplicating my original complete email entry, with the same entry date. Is this just a bug on H's side? Anybody seeing the same thing?

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby crackberry » Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:37 pm

nycsource wrote:This is probably super paranoid but I got an additional status checker mailings entry today duplicating my original complete email entry, with the same entry date. Is this just a bug on H's side? Anybody seeing the same thing?

Yeah this happened to me to but I got the duplicate email a few days ago. I think this one was supposed to be the "complete" email while the first one was the "app received" email. Don't know why they included status checker info in both though.

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby Kronk » Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:43 pm

Not to freak anyone out, but on this date last year, someone on LSN got the email scheduling the TS1.




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