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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby of Benito Cereno » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:59 pm

>insert witty name< wrote:
blue5385 wrote:
>insert witty name< wrote:waitlisted just now. :(


IIRC, you had a JR1 a couple weeks ago.

that's just....cruel of them. I'm really sorry.



thanks guys. i'm still in a bit of shock from it all as well (the fact that i got a JR1 in the first place, the fact that they would do a JR1 so late and then do a WL, etc). but I'm making myself feel better by remember how much i LOVED boalt at the ASW the other week, so I'm going to commit there and still consider myself very lucky. I will withdraw from the WL today b/c I already know I need a deferment so the HLS WL is the end of this road for me. Best of luck to everyone still waiting!!

don't get too upset. i think you are well set up for a mid-march JR2. it could be that he is just holding back on all new admits until they get a sense of their class and then will give out some jr2s to some people he recently spoke too.
also, way to go with the JR1 to begin with.

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby BenJ » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:07 pm

blue5385 wrote:
of Benito Cereno wrote:and hls just waitlisted a yls admit apparently.


guess that answers the question of whether or not they YP.


Nah, there are some people with the softs to get into Yale but lacking the numbers for Harvard. You can get into Yale with a 170/3.8 if you're otherwise amazing, but Harvard probably won't admit you.

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby >insert witty name< » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:08 pm

of Benito Cereno wrote:
>insert witty name< wrote:
blue5385 wrote:
>insert witty name< wrote:waitlisted just now. :(


IIRC, you had a JR1 a couple weeks ago.

that's just....cruel of them. I'm really sorry.



thanks guys. i'm still in a bit of shock from it all as well (the fact that i got a JR1 in the first place, the fact that they would do a JR1 so late and then do a WL, etc). but I'm making myself feel better by remember how much i LOVED boalt at the ASW the other week, so I'm going to commit there and still consider myself very lucky. I will withdraw from the WL today b/c I already know I need a deferment so the HLS WL is the end of this road for me. Best of luck to everyone still waiting!!

don't get too upset. i think you are well set up for a mid-march JR2. it could be that he is just holding back on all new admits until they get a sense of their class and then will give out some jr2s to some people he recently spoke too.
also, way to go with the JR1 to begin with.



that may be true, but because I know that I need to defer, and since you can't defer if admitted from the waitlist, I just sent my withdraw request. Berkeley has already said they will grant my deferment request when I submit it so I'm going to go with the sure bet as opposed to staying in limbo.

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby BioEBear2010 » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:09 pm

BenJ wrote:
blue5385 wrote:
of Benito Cereno wrote:and hls just waitlisted a yls admit apparently.


guess that answers the question of whether or not they YP.


Nah, there are some people with the softs to get into Yale but lacking the numbers for Harvard. You can get into Yale with a 170/3.8 if you're otherwise amazing, but Harvard probably won't admit you.

Guilty!

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby BenJ » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:11 pm

BioEBear2010 wrote:
BenJ wrote:
blue5385 wrote:
of Benito Cereno wrote:and hls just waitlisted a yls admit apparently.


guess that answers the question of whether or not they YP.


Nah, there are some people with the softs to get into Yale but lacking the numbers for Harvard. You can get into Yale with a 170/3.8 if you're otherwise amazing, but Harvard probably won't admit you.

Guilty!


I just might have been thinking of you when I posted that ;)

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby of Benito Cereno » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:13 pm

BioEBear2010 wrote:
BenJ wrote:
blue5385 wrote:
of Benito Cereno wrote:and hls just waitlisted a yls admit apparently.


guess that answers the question of whether or not they YP.


Nah, there are some people with the softs to get into Yale but lacking the numbers for Harvard. You can get into Yale with a 170/3.8 if you're otherwise amazing, but Harvard probably won't admit you.

Guilty!

you're still hanging in there at hls though, right?

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby BioEBear2010 » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:14 pm

of Benito Cereno wrote:you're still hanging in there at hls though, right?

Yeah, I figure I might as well wait for the ding train to come a-rollin' rather than send them a letter. Postage is expensive these days.

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby clintonius » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:15 pm

blue5385 wrote:
odiero wrote:damn. can't handle sitting here waiting for the email. going to the gym.
that's a healthy way of dealing with it...I dealt with it by drinking myself retarded Friday night, and it sucked getting the WL email Sat. morning when I already felt like death.

This is my kinda play. If you wind up at CLS we definitely need to be cross-town drinking buddies.

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby r6_philly » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:16 pm

I want in on the drinking if nothing else!

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby Lmao Zedong » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:39 pm

just to confirm - harvard accepts withdrawals only by snail mail?

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby somewhatwayward » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:40 pm

i think they're taking a lunch break

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby of Benito Cereno » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:42 pm

somewhatwayward wrote:i think they're taking a lunch break

not fair.

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby swampthang » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:42 pm

Lmao Zedong wrote:
somewhatwayward wrote:
Lmao Zedong wrote:WL. 3.79/179 ivy. not sure about my play at this point.


damn, non-HYP ivy?

yeah not HYP, not sure if any boost is involved, but figured worth mentioning. I'm still in UG


Your LSN says you're 3.74/178 at a "good public" so...Cornell? I'm confused about the discrepancy. Don't get me wrong, I don't post my real stats, but at least I'm consistent about it. Did you have much in the way of softs? Because I would think you'd be an auto-admit on numbers alone.

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby of Benito Cereno » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:43 pm

wtf. why did like 5 people waitlisted over the weekend just post their WL on lsn in the last 50 seconds.

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby of Benito Cereno » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:44 pm

swampthang wrote:
Lmao Zedong wrote:
somewhatwayward wrote:
Lmao Zedong wrote:WL. 3.79/179 ivy. not sure about my play at this point.


damn, non-HYP ivy?

yeah not HYP, not sure if any boost is involved, but figured worth mentioning. I'm still in UG


Your LSN says you're 3.74/178 at a "good public" so...Cornell? I'm confused about the discrepancy. Don't get me wrong, I don't post my real stats, but at least I'm consistent about it. Did you have much in the way of softs? Because I would think you'd be an auto-admit on numbers alone.

hls is being pretty strict about sub 3.8 gpas. It seems like the only sub 3.8s getting in are URM and HYP. Then again, probably only like 30% of the class is below 3.8 so URMs, HYP alums, and a bunch of people with great softs, can easily cover that.

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby blue5385 » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:54 pm

clintonius wrote:
blue5385 wrote:
odiero wrote:damn. can't handle sitting here waiting for the email. going to the gym.
that's a healthy way of dealing with it...I dealt with it by drinking myself retarded Friday night, and it sucked getting the WL email Sat. morning when I already felt like death.

This is my kinda play. If you wind up at CLS we definitely need to be cross-town drinking buddies.


good, I'm going to need a drinking buddy to deal with the stress of 1L. r6, when you get into one of CLS or NYU, you are invited too.

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby swampthang » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:55 pm

of Benito Cereno wrote:HLS is being pretty strict about sub 3.8 gpas. It seems like the only sub 3.8s getting in are URM and HYP. Then again, probably only like 30% of the class is below 3.8 so URMs, HYP alums, and a bunch of people with great softs, can easily cover that.


and what's your take on sub-75% LSATs (which I guess would now be under-171)? same story?

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby of Benito Cereno » Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:01 pm

swampthang wrote:
of Benito Cereno wrote:HLS is being pretty strict about sub 3.8 gpas. It seems like the only sub 3.8s getting in are URM and HYP. Then again, probably only like 30% of the class is below 3.8 so URMs, HYP alums, and a bunch of people with great softs, can easily cover that.


and what's your take on sub-75% LSATs (which I guess would now be under-171)? same story?

I think Harvard probably has a lot more people with 169s and 170s than sub 3.8s in this class. From Harvard's perspective a 4.0 seems to compensate for a 169 or 170 more than a 179 compensates for a 3.65. But I think a very large percentage of the 15or20% let in with lsats under 170 are likely all URMs or 3.95 gpa +.

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby swampthang » Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:05 pm

of Benito Cereno wrote:
swampthang wrote:
of Benito Cereno wrote:HLS is being pretty strict about sub 3.8 gpas. It seems like the only sub 3.8s getting in are URM and HYP. Then again, probably only like 30% of the class is below 3.8 so URMs, HYP alums, and a bunch of people with great softs, can easily cover that.


and what's your take on sub-75% LSATs (which I guess would now be under-171)? same story?

I think Harvard probably has a lot more people with 169s and 170s than sub 3.8s in this class. From Harvard's perspective a 4.0 seems to compensate for a 169 or 170 more than a 179 compensates for a 3.65. But I think a very large percentage of the 15or20% let in with lsats under 170 are likely all URMs or 3.95 gpa +.


Sadness. Can we redefine URM? Because I really think people who grew up in the middle of nowhere and are still numerically strong candidates for admission are both a M and UR. Here's hoping you're right about the "4.0 compensating for 169/170" bit.

And actually, I think conceptually I would disagree. While the talk about the LSAT being "the great equalizer" is a bit overstated, I definitely think and high LSAT-splitter is going to get the nod over a high GPA-splitter simply because the LSAT is a standardized measure vs. having to compare GPAs across schools, majors, time periods, etc.
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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby clintonius » Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:07 pm

swampthang wrote:Sadness. Can we redefine URM? Because I really think people who grew up in the middle of nowhere and are still numerically strong candidates for admission are both a M and UR.

Would that it were so! I think my cycle would have been much more fruitful (though I'm still thrilled and grateful for the acceptances I've gotten).

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby forza » Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:10 pm

Waitlisted today. 173/4.0 still in UG at a large state school.

Better than dinged.

/cycle

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby muahawhawhaw » Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:12 pm

of Benito Cereno wrote:
swampthang wrote:
of Benito Cereno wrote:HLS is being pretty strict about sub 3.8 gpas. It seems like the only sub 3.8s getting in are URM and HYP. Then again, probably only like 30% of the class is below 3.8 so URMs, HYP alums, and a bunch of people with great softs, can easily cover that.


and what's your take on sub-75% LSATs (which I guess would now be under-171)? same story?

I think Harvard probably has a lot more people with 169s and 170s than sub 3.8s in this class. From Harvard's perspective a 4.0 seems to compensate for a 169 or 170 more than a 179 compensates for a 3.65. But I think a very large percentage of the 15or20% let in with lsats under 170 are likely all URMs or 3.95 gpa +.


Hope you're wrong, in a selfish way :wink: . And how many people have 3.95+ GPAs compared to, say, people in the 177-180 LSAT range? If the ratios are disproportional then Harvard's accepting more reverse splitters can be attributed to there just being a whole lot more of them in general.

Ah, already not liking purgatory.

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby swampthang » Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:13 pm

clintonius wrote:
swampthang wrote:Sadness. Can we redefine URM? Because I really think people who grew up in the middle of nowhere and are still numerically strong candidates for admission are both a M and UR.

Would that it were so! I think my cycle would have been much more fruitful (though I'm still thrilled and grateful for the acceptances I've gotten).


Yeah, you're not doing too badly. In at NYU and waiting on Col, Chi, and H? Congrats congrats. Did you apply late?

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby Lmao Zedong » Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:14 pm

swampthang wrote:
Lmao Zedong wrote:
somewhatwayward wrote:
Lmao Zedong wrote:WL. 3.79/179 ivy. not sure about my play at this point.


damn, non-HYP ivy?

yeah not HYP, not sure if any boost is involved, but figured worth mentioning. I'm still in UG


Your LSN says you're 3.74/178 at a "good public" so...Cornell? I'm confused about the discrepancy. Don't get me wrong, I don't post my real stats, but at least I'm consistent about it. Did you have much in the way of softs? Because I would think you'd be an auto-admit on numbers alone.


LSN page is fudged, but now that my cycle is over i don't mind telling it straight. 3.79/179 is accurate. i'm not at cornell.

by H standards, softs were probably below average, but not by any means nonexistent.

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Re: Harvard 2010!

Postby Lmao Zedong » Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:16 pm

Lmao Zedong wrote:just to confirm - harvard accepts withdrawals only by snail mail?


this is the case, yes? i need to mail in to their admissions office?




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