Anybody heard back from SMU? Forum

[BigAristotle]

SMU has definitely yield protected its way out of some quality students.

I guess that's why it's ranked where it is now.

Looking at LSN over the past years - data doesn't support the assertion that they yield protect.

Betasteve is correct. I noticed a 172/2.2 WL, Accept, and a few 164 low 3.x and 2.x WLs, & 166, 3.36 reject over the past few years lends itself that SMU does not YP, and are LSAT whores.

Does anybody know what time the acceptance calls generally went out? Also did the status checker actually change before it happened? Mine has unfortunately been stuck on complete since 1/22

Does anyone know the answer to this?

[chadwick218]

SMU has definitely yield protected its way out of some quality students.

I guess that's why it's ranked where it is now.

Looking at LSN over the past years - data doesn't support the assertion that they yield protect.

+1 ... agreed ... per LSN going back 4 years, the lowest LSAT score to be rejected was a 158 and the lowest GPA with an LSAT score of at least 158 or higher to be rejected was a 3.36 ...

[sapereaude2012]

My theory is that SMU isn't YP'ing but that they have admitted the high numbers that they want for their medians right now, and are waiting to send out admissions to people that don't really help or hurt until they see who is depositing.

If more people with 165 and 3.75 have deposited, they might be more willing to take a 160 3.8 than if the majority of their 165+ scores have been withdrawing. So not really YP in the traditional sense, but essentially the same thing. Somewhat secure their medians, and then let people in as soon as they've done this. Any thoughts?

[OasisFan]

My theory is that SMU isn't YP'ing but that they have admitted the high numbers that they want for their medians right now, and are waiting to send out admissions to people that don't really help or hurt until they see who is depositing.

If more people with 165 and 3.75 have deposited, they might be more willing to take a 160 3.8 than if the majority of their 165+ scores have been withdrawing. So not really YP in the traditional sense, but essentially the same thing. Somewhat secure their medians, and then let people in as soon as they've done this. Any thoughts?

Ordinarily that is what the "Evening Program" is for though, it's for the students they really liked, but whose numbers would hurt their medians. I think with the PT rankings coming out, some schools are beginning to adopt the same rigid LSAT based admissions practices for their Part-Time programs as well.

[Rachyk]

Well its 3 and still no sign of any phone calls............I guess we are all stuck waiting another week.

[sapereaude2012]

My theory is that SMU isn't YP'ing but that they have admitted the high numbers that they want for their medians right now, and are waiting to send out admissions to people that don't really help or hurt until they see who is depositing.

If more people with 165 and 3.75 have deposited, they might be more willing to take a 160 3.8 than if the majority of their 165+ scores have been withdrawing. So not really YP in the traditional sense, but essentially the same thing. Somewhat secure their medians, and then let people in as soon as they've done this. Any thoughts?

This sounds like the strategy of every single law school trying to raise their numbers.

Well kind of, but most schools don't leave a large portion of applicants hanging with no response beyond deposit deadlines.

[Lizzy081881]

So is it the consensus that if we haven't heard yet we may still have a shot? When do they usually send out rejection letters? I'm so nervous!!!

[eamonbriggs08]

So is it the consensus that if we haven't heard yet we may still have a shot? When do they usually send out rejection letters? I'm so nervous!!!

I think we all are. eek!

[Go_Canucks!!]

Oasis...I'm still hoping you'll get in. What other schools have you applied to ?

[OasisFan]

Oasis...I'm still hoping you'll get in. What other schools have you applied to ?

I appreciate it...this cycle has been pretty unforgiving to me.

In: Miami

Maybe: American, Tulane

Out: Texas, Baylor (Fall and Summer)

Not Heard: UH, SMU, Maryland, Texas Tech

3.66 and a 159

[Go_Canucks!!]

Dude congrats !!!! Don't sweat SMU, because you got into a great law school down there in Florida. Did you get a scholarship ?

[smiley26]

Just FYI:

Out of Office: letter of continued interest for Dean Keehan - please forward as necessary‏

From: Keehan, Virginia (vkeehan@mail.smu.edu)
Sent: Sun 4/19/09 7:45 AM
To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

I am out of the office on maternity leave. I will be returning at the end of May. Please e-mail lawadmit@smu.edu for assistance in my absence.

[kmcquire]

Rachyk wrote:
Does anybody know what time the acceptance calls generally went out? Also did the status checker actually change before it happened? Mine has unfortunately been stuck on complete since 1/22


Does anyone know the answer to this?

I got accepted a long ways back, I can't even remember what month it was, but I do remember that they called me on a Friday morning. I was accepted in the first round of applications with a 164 and a 3.6, but I withdrew my acceptance about a month ago, so I hope someone on here gets my spot!

[OasisFan]

Just FYI:

Out of Office: letter of continued interest for Dean Keehan - please forward as necessary‏

From: Keehan, Virginia (vkeehan@mail.smu.edu)
Sent: Sun 4/19/09 7:45 AM
To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

I am out of the office on maternity leave. I will be returning at the end of May. Please e-mail lawadmit@smu.edu for assistance in my absence.

Indeed...she mentioned this at her Evening Program Session, but I honestly don't know how much of a say so she has in the way they make decisions and stuff.

[BigAristotle]

So discussion around the new USNWR rankings, SMU about the same at 49, same with Houston at 59, Baylor fell 10 to 65 though. Looks like Chadwick was right in his prediction for 2010.

[chadwick218]

The pdf that I saw showed SMU falling to a tie at 49 ... gotta be honest here, given that Baylor fell to 65th, it really makes me think twice about attending Baylor ...

[jadedV]

I know rankings shouldn't mean that much, but I hate to see that SMU fell to #49. I really hope SMU does not fall out of the top 50. But that's just me.

[smiley87]

what SMU needs to do is call back all accepted applicants with 164 and ~3.5 that have withdrawn and offer them more money.... i'd drop every other school for you in a heartbeat, smu. i can be your 25thpercentile!!! call mee!!! please!!! you're my first love!

[chadwick218]

Part-Time Rankings:
1. GULC
2. GW
3. Fordham
4. American
5. GMU
6. Maryland
7. Temple
7. San Diego
9. Denver
10. Chicago Kent
link: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=69258

I am rather surprised that SMU is not on this list ...

[BigAristotle]

----------GPA----------LSAT-------Acceptance%---07 Grads Employed----Bar %
49. SMU--3.29-3.85---154-165-----29%------------81.4%-----------------92.6%

59. UofH--3.12-3.67---154-163-----29%------------80.2%-----------------89.9%

65. Baylor-3.39-3.79---156-162-----33%------------61.2%-----------------98.5%

15. UTexas-3.42-3.82--164-168-----25%------------96.8%-----------------88.5%

TTT
Texas Tech-3.2-3.7----154-159-----34%------------N/A--------------------90.3%


Just for comparison sake; that employment number is staggering though.

[chadwick218]

Indeed, that's what did Baylor in this year ... if anything, I am now needing SMU to give me a call more than ever ...

[smiley87]

do you think i could call smu back and said i was joking about withdrawing? my stats are in their median so i might help them out too....


and maybe possibly keep my scholarship if possible?! or is this a little shameless

[chadwick218]

do you think i could call smu back and said i was joking about withdrawing? my stats are in their median so i might help them out too....


and maybe possibly keep my scholarship if possible?! or is this a little shameless

it's worth a try ... just spin it as a family situation is preventing your from attending college elsewhere ...

[jadedV]

Chadwick, I'm still surprised that they haven't called you yet. Do you think they're holding your application because they've recongized that you've applied twice before and did not attend?

[jadedV]

PS - Are a ton of Baylor 0L's going to try and jump ship to SMU now?