ShiftyPig wrote:I never once attempted to "refut[e] [your] argument for a degree from UF giving one an advantage in seeking legal employment in Florida." That characterization is incorrect, unprofessional, embarrassing, and, frankly, would get your ass handed to you in your career. When I made a general statement - to a board of people interested in UF Law - that he/she/it should press the career center when it will (undoubtedly) be presenting a rosy picture, you took it upon yourself to whip your TLS c**k out and act like you are the pro and throw out some pointless, softball tangent.
You came in to whatever battle you manufactured, guns semi-blazing, with OCI stats that you clearly haven't taken the time to comprehend. Did you look at the number of duplicates on the lists? They do that because, shock, it looks better on the career center to have "twelve" firms show up when in reality it's one firm listing its offices in Wisconsin, Virginia, and random places it will never place anyone out of UF/Miami/FSU. Once you knock out the dup's and adjust for FSU being half the size of UF, I think you'd be surprised and wouldn't lean so heavily on that. 10 firms showing up for 20 students is the equivalent of 10,000 firms showing up for 20,000 students - that doesn't mean that the school with 10,000 firms showing up is, in your words, "receiving more interest from Florida firms relative to other Florida law schools." And you're failing to account for FSU's superior government/court placement. So basically, your silver bullet is a big bunch of fail, which might explain why you're going to the 51st-ranked law school: inability to comprehend data.
I left for four reasons: 1) long-term career prospects. 2) classmates were absolute idiots. 3) the firm I planned to work for was decimated by the economy/personal issues (long story, don't ask). 4) Got a 770 on the GMAT. I could rail on UF Law but I don't - it's good for what it is, cheap and places well for what it is (ie, not great). When I tell people to be critical of the career center, it's disrespectful to the rest of the forum to hijack the discussion with your idiotic point. If I were them, I'd be doing my best to figure out who you are with the goal of avoiding you come August.
You most certainly have denied the validity of my argument (that a degree from UF gives one an advantage in seeking legal employment in Florida) - see "TI-sofarfrom-TCR-thatit'slaughable.." and practically everything you've said after for evidence of that. If that is not "attempting to refute", then what is?
As my post history (which I in no way expect you to examine) shows, I have considered the duplicates and nature of the listed interviewers. I have also accounted for differences in class sizes. The fact remains that the OCI data shows that UF holds an advantage (though only a slight one) over FSU, according to my calculations, which show a class size ratio of 1.72 in UF's favor and a OCI ratio of 1.92 in UF's favor. This estimation is obviously very imperfect, and I fully expect you to criticize it for being so, but it is hardly the "big bunch of fail" you wish it could be for your purposes of denegration. I also believe that OCI results not adjusted for class size (which very heavily favor UF) should also be taken into consideration, given that every one of the Florida firms that chose to interview at UF but chose not to interview at FSU showed preference of UF over FSU. As for FSU's superior government/court placement - we've heard a lot about it, but where are the statistics? If it is verifiable, then perhaps it is simply due to student preference; those who go to FSU generally have a greater desire to work in government or the courts.
I think it quite idiotic of you to label my point - that UF does offer those who choose to go there an advantage in seeking legal employment in Florida - as "idiotic" when (a) it is well-founded, and (b) I have made it only because you seem to be trying to influence those who are trying to decide whether or not to go there to think otherwise. I also think it appaling that you would spew such garbage as this:
ShiftyPig wrote:...which might explain why you're going to the 51st-ranked law school: inability to comprehend data.
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I left for four reasons: . . . 2) classmates were absolute idiots.
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If I were them, I'd be doing my best to figure out who you are with the goal of avoiding you come August.
You have (or at least should have) offended everyone who is attending or hoping to attend UF. You should even have offended yourself, given that you yourself could not do any better than the 51st-ranked law school (oh, but that's right - you got a 770 on the GMAT). I once thought you to be genuinely helpful, but now it has become fairly obvious that you are here simply to show off your superiority.
I do not wish to taint this thread any further with our back-and-forth, and will consider this discussion over unless you respond in such a way that forces me to do so in kind. Feel free to PM if necessary.