UNC c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

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Re: UNC c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby JeebsDeadshot » Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:53 pm

fastfretxfingers wrote:
reedm wrote:
1994lawapplicant wrote:When you refer to the deadline for the Chancellors Scholarship, is that a deadline by which you must submit your admissions application by? Or is there a separate application for the scholarship?

Also, does anyone know what they particularly look for in terms of awarding the Chancellors? Certain stats? Softs? Etc.


yeah its just when you have to get your application in by- there's no separate app. but i just don't know if that means it needs to be just transmitted or actually complete/UR?

also i know a girl with 3.5/164 who got the chancellors, she had good recs and i think 2 or 3 yrs of work experience. i know they interview finalists, but im not sure how many they award. also, i heard that if you're a finalist and don't get it you still get a significant scholarship. anyone know if thats true?


If I received the 15,000 annual scholarship, does that mean that a Chancellors interview is off the table?


Hey everyone, I'm a 3L at UNC. Feel free to ask me any questions you might have about the application process or life at UNC.

First, I'm sorry to hear some of your scholarship offers have been slightly disappointing. The law school has had some budget cuts that affect how much aid it can give, which stinks but there are two things to keep in mind 1) you can apply to get in-state tuition after you have lived in North Carolina for 12 continuous months (https://registrar.unc.edu/academic-serv ... ncy-guide/) and 2) you can negotiate your scholarship offer

I can't give specific numbers about the amount of my scholly, but I was able to negotiate for a $3,000 a year increase in my amount. I sent them my offer from a similarly ranked school that offered me a higher scholarship and it worked. The admissions told me they weren't sure if they were going to have the funds to make an increase but about two weeks after I requested it they increased my scholarship. My advice would be to reach out sooner, rather than later. Even if they tell you they can't currently make any adjustments, it is good to get on their radar and they can tell you when to follow up.

To answer the above question, if you got a $15,000 a year scholarship, that does not preclude you from getting an invite to interview for Chancellors. I believe they send out invites sometime in late January or early February. Though I believe those who received invites had offers of $17,500, but I am not positive.

If you have any questions, feel free to PM me

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Re: UNC c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby Tort Ellini » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:31 pm

Is anyone else's application moving really slowly? I applied before Christmas and it still hasn't been marked complete yet.

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Re: UNC c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby jpe93 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:32 pm

Hi there. I just applied to UNC a couple days ago and never received an automatic email from them like I have with other schools. Did it take a while for anyone else to receive a status checker?

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Re: UNC c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby reedm » Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:33 pm

Tort Ellini wrote:Is anyone else's application moving really slowly? I applied before Christmas and it still hasn't been marked complete yet.


Yes. Same situation, except idk if you had to send a supplemental app/NC residency app. Both of which I've sent in and they have yet to confirm they've received it... but I've heard they're always slow so i don't think it means much tbh

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Re: UNC c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby 1994lawapplicant » Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:10 pm

Any idea when Chancellor's invites go out?

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Re: UNC c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby 1994lawapplicant » Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:54 pm

Also, does anyone have any knowledge about what UNC looks for in assessing applicants for the Chancellor’s? I’ve read on previous threads that the determinations are much more holistic? Does that mean that an applicant doesn’t necessarily have to be above both 75ths? I’m currently above the 75th for GPA And between 50th and 75th for LSAT.

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Re: UNC c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby 1994lawapplicant » Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:03 pm

1994lawapplicant wrote:Any idea when Chancellor's invites go out?


Has anyone been notified yet? The weekend is coming up soon, and I'm growing more and more anxious that people have been invited and just haven't posted about it.

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Re: UNC c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby jpe93 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:00 pm

How did you receive log-in info for a status checker? I haven't even received one...

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Re: UNC c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby ohladcsc » Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:05 pm

Has anyone had any luck with negotiating scholarships this cycle?

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Re: UNC c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby Pomeranian » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:17 pm

Ranking dropped a lot this year :(

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Re: UNC c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby andry » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:56 pm

Pomeranian wrote:Ranking dropped a lot this year :(



for real, disappointing as they have been in the 30s consistently for the past decade

should this be worrying?

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Re: UNC c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby deansmith » Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:06 am

Yes, it is very worrying. UNC Law is in free fall, from 31 to 39 to 45. Ten years ago, it was in the upper 20s. Getting crushed by Wake, now at 32. UNC has a huge 1L class with relatively little money. Its new dean has no earthly idea what he's doing (see, e.g., the 14 point drop in USNews on his watch). I fully expect it to be ranked in the 50s next year. It's a shame. It was a law school in the league of a WashU and USC 15 years ago, soon it will be par with Tennessee and Kentucky.

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Re: UNC c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby Pomeranian » Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:44 pm

UNC's dean isn't happy about this...

http://unc-chapelhill.imodules.com/cont ... sid=813261

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Re: UNC c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby HangingAround » Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:34 pm

This was a response to something on another thread, but since it has a lot of UNC info, putting it here too:

Sure, you shouldn't expect a great job from UNC. Sure, the most likely outcome may be small firm, or state government or county DA/public defender (to be fair, a lot of people want those things and go to UNC for the low debt load to reach them). I go to UNC and know very few people who seem like they will end up at small firms, though they will probably make the same amount as if they did, just in government or PI work of some sort.

On the other hand, UNC does, according to Law School Transparency put 19.4% in large firms and 5.2% into federal clerkships. That is just under a fourth of the class - so a fourth of the class does, in fact, "get a good paying job from" UNC. Wake, with an overall higher employment score, only puts 16.3% in large firms and 3.8% in federal clerkships.Those are also "good paying jobs". Those numbers represent 2016 graduates, so I would keep an eye on how they change - UNC will probably drop a bit, and Wake will probably rise a bit. A couple of years ago UNC had double the federal clerkship+large firm as Wake, and the gap has closed as UNC has struggled with funding from the legislature. Wake also dropped ~15 spots in the rankings in one year and has worked their way back up - it happens. The non discounted debt from UNC is listed as $70,000 cheaper than Wake per LST, though Wake's willingness to give scholarships may make this a nominal difference.

I go to UNC and know 2Ls going to Skadden, Davis Polk, Clearly, Ropes, King & Spalding, Cahill, Orrick, plenty of others up in New York; a big group going to King & Spalding in AT with others going to Alston & Bird; some going to Ropes and some other firms around DC; for NC people, typically multiple people, going to Robinson Bradshaw, MVA, McGuireWoods, Winston&Strawn, Smith Anderson, Brooks Pierce, Mayer Brown, Wyrick Robbins, Womble, Parker Poe, Katten and wherever else.

In short, don't go to UNC expecting to get a big firm or federal clerkship, but don't pretend like it's out of the question. Also, while you're most likely to stay in NC, it's not necessarily your destiny. With UNC's low tuition, getting a big firm job with smaller debt payments is pretty sweet if you're in the fourth of people who land one. For the people who got into T10 or T6 schools, even with scholarships, and turned them down for full or almost full rides at UNC, this is definitely a risky, but when it works out, a really nice outcome.

Also to this end, UNC is ranked 28th in the last ATL ranking, which focuses on the employment outcomes that TLS is focused on. Wake Forest is 49th. Surely Wake will do better this year, and UNC will fall, but UNC had already fallen a good deal by the time this 28 ranking came out.

Go find the numbers yourself, UNC publishes full ABA reports unlike most other schools, including Wake, so for better or for worse you will be informed. Use Law School Transparency, talk to people at places you want to work,

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Re: UNC c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby HangingAround » Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:47 am

HangingAround wrote:This was a response to something on another thread, but since it has a lot of UNC info, putting it here too:

Sure, you shouldn't expect a great job from UNC. Sure, the most likely outcome may be small firm, or state government or county DA/public defender (to be fair, a lot of people want those things and go to UNC for the low debt load to reach them). I go to UNC and know very few people who seem like they will end up at small firms, though they will probably make the same amount as if they did, just in government or PI work of some sort.

On the other hand, UNC does, according to Law School Transparency put 19.4% in large firms and 5.2% into federal clerkships. That is just under a fourth of the class - so a fourth of the class does, in fact, "get a good paying job from" UNC. Wake, with an overall higher employment score, only puts 16.3% in large firms and 3.8% in federal clerkships.Those are also "good paying jobs". Those numbers represent 2016 graduates, so I would keep an eye on how they change - UNC will probably drop a bit, and Wake will probably rise a bit. A couple of years ago UNC had double the federal clerkship+large firm as Wake, and the gap has closed as UNC has struggled with funding from the legislature. Wake also dropped ~15 spots in the rankings in one year and has worked their way back up - it happens. The non discounted debt from UNC is listed as $70,000 cheaper than Wake per LST, though Wake's willingness to give scholarships may make this a nominal difference.

I go to UNC and know 2Ls going to Skadden, Davis Polk, Clearly, Ropes, King & Spalding, Cahill, Orrick, plenty of others up in New York; a big group going to King & Spalding in AT with others going to Alston & Bird; some going to Ropes and some other firms around DC; for NC people, typically multiple people, going to Robinson Bradshaw, MVA, McGuireWoods, Winston&Strawn, Smith Anderson, Brooks Pierce, Mayer Brown, Wyrick Robbins, Womble, Parker Poe, Katten and wherever else.

In short, don't go to UNC expecting to get a big firm or federal clerkship, but don't pretend like it's out of the question. Also, while you're most likely to stay in NC, it's not necessarily your destiny. With UNC's low tuition, getting a big firm job with smaller debt payments is pretty sweet if you're in the fourth of people who land one. For the people who got into T10 or T6 schools, even with scholarships, and turned them down for full or almost full rides at UNC, this is definitely a risky, but when it works out, a really nice outcome.

Also to this end, UNC is ranked 28th in the last ATL ranking, which focuses on the employment outcomes that TLS is focused on. Wake Forest is 49th. Surely Wake will do better this year, and UNC will fall, but UNC had already fallen a good deal by the time this 28 ranking came out.

Go find the numbers yourself, UNC publishes full ABA reports unlike most other schools, including Wake, so for better or for worse you will be informed. Use Law School Transparency, talk to people at places you want to work,


Sidley, Covington, Squire Patton Boggs, and Goodwin among the DC ones

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Re: UNC c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby HangingAround » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:25 pm

Just FYI - new employment stats show Wake Forest BL + Fed Clerk at ~20% while UNC is ~31% (increase of about 7%).

http://career.law.wfu.edu/files/2018/04 ... ummary.pdf

http://www.law.unc.edu/documents/career ... april6.pdf

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Re: UNC c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby sda2116 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:33 pm

I've been waitlisted at UNC. Does anyone know if they've already accepted students off the waitlist? Any advice to get off the waitlist, other than additional LORS?

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Re: UNC c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby lawapplicant2018 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:12 am

I was wondering the same thing. How long ago were you waitlisted?

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Re: UNC c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby lawapplicant2018 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:13 am

sda2116 wrote:I've been waitlisted at UNC. Does anyone know if they've already accepted students off the waitlist? Any advice to get off the waitlist, other than additional LORS?


I was wondering the same thing. How long ago were you waitlisted?

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Re: UNC c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby sda2116 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:28 am

I've been waitlisted since 5/2/2018.

lawapplicant2018 wrote:I was wondering the same thing. How long ago were you waitlisted?

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Re: UNC c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby sda2116 » Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:48 am

Has UNC asked people to start registering or committing to the school?

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Re: UNC c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby lawapplicant2018 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:18 am

Is anyone else still waiting to hear back from UNC?

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Re: UNC c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby 19AP93 » Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:32 am

I am still waiting, hoping for something soon



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