Penn Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

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When are you applying

September
14
9%
October
63
42%
November
47
32%
December
12
8%
January
11
7%
February
2
1%
 
Total votes: 149

wiseman96
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Re: Penn Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby wiseman96 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:25 pm

wiseman96 wrote:UR1 also! Submitted mid-September. Anyone know how long it took last year between UR1 and the first round of decisions?

Sorry! Just saw the post from earlier answering this Q.

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Re: Penn Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby albinododobird » Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:34 pm

wiseman96 wrote:UR1 also! Submitted mid-September. Anyone know how long it took last year between UR1 and the first round of decisions?

Seems like it took about a month, based on last year's thread. Prior years were similar.

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Re: Penn Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby pumpkinspicedchai » Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:02 pm

ED
UCR1, 11-17
Complete, 11-14
Received, 11-13

emx0824
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Re: Penn Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby emx0824 » Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:21 pm

RD

Complete Nov 3
UR1 Nov 17

Looking forward to receiving some news before Christmas!

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Re: Penn Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby Keilz » Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:07 am

Platopus wrote:Anyone under review yet? Looks like the first wave of acceptances usually go out in December

edit: Looks like UR 1 comes the week of Thanksgiving (next week!!) and UR2 is usually 2nd week of December, with acceptances very shortly thereafter for ED applicants

Keilz wrote:
mm2368 wrote:UPDATE AS OF 12/14:
UCR1 dates - 11/21, 11/28, 12/5
UCR2 dates - 11/28, 11/30, 12/5, 12/7, 12/9, 12/13, 12/14
First ED Notifications - 12/13 at 3:00pm (EST)


c/o 2021 applicants are going to appreciate this a lot. hello, future!


Hello from the future


lol hey. your futures look bleak because you will be 1Ls.

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wannabegenius
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Re: Penn Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby wannabegenius » Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:25 am

Hey guys, this might (probably) be a stupid question but I'm curious about Penn's so-called "ED boost." Could anyone speculate on how this boost is quantified? Like is it equivalent to 1 pt on the LSAT or .05 on GPA? Or maybe just a super strong "Why Penn" which in this case would be equal to less than a strong soft?

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Re: Penn Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby PostNihilist » Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:53 am

wannabegenius wrote:Hey guys, this might (probably) be a stupid question but I'm curious about Penn's so-called "ED boost." Could anyone speculate on how this boost is quantified? Like is it equivalent to 1 pt on the LSAT or .05 on GPA? Or maybe just a super strong "Why Penn" which in this case would be equal to less than a strong soft?

https://blog.powerscore.com/lsat/applyi ... -not-to-ed

Supposedly a 208% boost

I've seen other blog posts that site a similar Penn ED boost, but I'm in lazy Sunday mood and don't feel like finding them again :P

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wannabegenius
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Re: Penn Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby wannabegenius » Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:24 pm

PostNihilist wrote:
wannabegenius wrote:Hey guys, this might (probably) be a stupid question but I'm curious about Penn's so-called "ED boost." Could anyone speculate on how this boost is quantified? Like is it equivalent to 1 pt on the LSAT or .05 on GPA? Or maybe just a super strong "Why Penn" which in this case would be equal to less than a strong soft?

https://blog.powerscore.com/lsat/applyi ... -not-to-ed

Supposedly a 208% boost

I've seen other blog posts that site a similar Penn ED boost, but I'm in lazy Sunday mood and don't feel like finding them again :P


Thank you! I saw this website too so I guess I want to know what might make a 208% boost. Like say they added 1 pt to all ED applicant's LSAT scores. Would this be enough lead to such a boost? 208% seems high to me so (wishful thinking) I'm hoping they view my LSAT score as higher than it really is, even if they report it the same.

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Re: Penn Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby jibrahim23 » Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:13 pm

wannabegenius wrote:
PostNihilist wrote:
wannabegenius wrote:Hey guys, this might (probably) be a stupid question but I'm curious about Penn's so-called "ED boost." Could anyone speculate on how this boost is quantified? Like is it equivalent to 1 pt on the LSAT or .05 on GPA? Or maybe just a super strong "Why Penn" which in this case would be equal to less than a strong soft?

https://blog.powerscore.com/lsat/applyi ... -not-to-ed

Supposedly a 208% boost

I've seen other blog posts that site a similar Penn ED boost, but I'm in lazy Sunday mood and don't feel like finding them again :P


Thank you! I saw this website too so I guess I want to know what might make a 208% boost. Like say they added 1 pt to all ED applicant's LSAT scores. Would this be enough lead to such a boost? 208% seems high to me so (wishful thinking) I'm hoping they view my LSAT score as higher than it really is, even if they report it the same.

What I am about to say is complete speculation but I'm a pretty quantitative thinker so I think this makes more sense. I think rather than the ED-Boost being a quantifiable thing such as adding a point to your LSAT score or .05 to GPA, I think it rather signifies lowered standards of admission for ED applicants. Again I am speculating but I could see them setting averages for both LSAT and GPA for ED applicants based on the pool and those numbers will most likely be much lower than the pool for regular applicants.
I'm in the same boat as you since I applied ED and I'm really hoping I get in lol.

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Re: Penn Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby icechicken » Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:08 pm

wannabegenius wrote:Thank you! I saw this website too so I guess I want to know what might make a 208% boost. Like say they added 1 pt to all ED applicant's LSAT scores. Would this be enough lead to such a boost? 208% seems high to me so (wishful thinking) I'm hoping they view my LSAT score as higher than it really is, even if they report it the same.


Better, I think, to think about it in terms of medians. If you're a 168/3.85 you're probably not getting a "1-point boost" that pushes you over the edge because you applied ED. But a 170/3.5 or a 166/3.95 probably noses ahead of all the other (reverse) splitters because they apparently love Penn, won't cost any scholarship money, and are almost guaranteed to matriculate (making it easier to tinker with medians).

MyLSN seems to bear this out. Check out what applying ED does for reverse splitters (this actually surprised me):


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And here's splitters (less airtight but still a big boost):

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On the other hand, people below both medians get almost completely boxed out, whether they apply ED or not:

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ED is probably also useful for avoiding yield protection if you're at risk of that, which might explain part of the data behind that 208% number, but that's an especially dumb reason to apply ED.

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wannabegenius
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Re: Penn Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby wannabegenius » Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:29 pm

icechicken wrote:
wannabegenius wrote:Thank you! I saw this website too so I guess I want to know what might make a 208% boost. Like say they added 1 pt to all ED applicant's LSAT scores. Would this be enough lead to such a boost? 208% seems high to me so (wishful thinking) I'm hoping they view my LSAT score as higher than it really is, even if they report it the same.


Better, I think, to think about it in terms of medians. If you're a 168/3.85 you're probably not getting a "1-point boost" that pushes you over the edge because you applied ED. But a 170/3.5 or a 166/3.95 probably noses ahead of all the other (reverse) splitters because they apparently love Penn, won't cost any scholarship money, and are almost guaranteed to matriculate (making it easier to tinker with medians).


ED is probably also useful for avoiding yield protection if you're at risk of that, which might explain part of the data behind that 208% number, but that's an especially dumb reason to apply ED.


Thank you so much! I think this is what I was looking for (that there is no way to really quantify the boost in terms of points). At 164/3.93 I'm barely a reverse splitter since I'm below the 75% GPA so that's why I was hoping there would be a point boost somewhere (wishful thinking as I speculated).

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Re: Penn Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby icechicken » Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:48 pm

wannabegenius wrote:At 164/3.93 I'm barely a reverse splitter since I'm below the 75% GPA so that's why I was hoping there would be a point boost somewhere (wishful thinking as I speculated).


I wouldn't sweat the 75th percentile too much in this case. A split's a split, and there aren't a whole lot of 3.9s left one HYSC finish glutting themselves. Accepting ED applicants like you is important to Penn's rankings strategy - they couldn't maintain that GPA median otherwise.

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Re: Penn Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby wannabegenius » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:38 pm

icechicken wrote:
wannabegenius wrote:At 164/3.93 I'm barely a reverse splitter since I'm below the 75% GPA so that's why I was hoping there would be a point boost somewhere (wishful thinking as I speculated).


I wouldn't sweat the 75th percentile too much in this case. A split's a split, and there aren't a whole lot of 3.9s left one HYSC finish glutting themselves. Accepting ED applicants like you is important to Penn's rankings strategy - they couldn't maintain that GPA median otherwise.


I like you, kindhearted internet stranger <3. This gives me a needed boost of confidence which I need to carry on with my life before ED decisions come out next month.

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Re: Penn Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby SopranoSaxophone » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:11 am

I'm UR2. I'll now be refreshing the status checker hourly for the next month. Ha!

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wannabegenius
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Re: Penn Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby wannabegenius » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:23 am

SopranoSaxophone wrote:I'm UR2. I'll now be refreshing the status checker hourly for the next month. Ha!


Wait how are you UR2? Didn't we all just go UR1 on Friday?

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Re: Penn Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby AaronCarter » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:55 am

wannabegenius wrote:
SopranoSaxophone wrote:I'm UR2. I'll now be refreshing the status checker hourly for the next month. Ha!


Wait how are you UR2? Didn't we all just go UR1 on Friday?



she's the chosen one.

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Re: Penn Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby SopranoSaxophone » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:00 pm

wannabegenius wrote:
SopranoSaxophone wrote:I'm UR2. I'll now be refreshing the status checker hourly for the next month. Ha!


Wait how are you UR2? Didn't we all just go UR1 on Friday?


Ahh! Yes, that's what I meant. Forgive a little pre-coffee fogginess.

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wannabegenius
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Re: Penn Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby wannabegenius » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:42 pm

SopranoSaxophone wrote:
wannabegenius wrote:
SopranoSaxophone wrote:I'm UR2. I'll now be refreshing the status checker hourly for the next month. Ha!


Wait how are you UR2? Didn't we all just go UR1 on Friday?


Ahh! Yes, that's what I meant. Forgive a little pre-coffee fogginess.


Phew. I thought I missed something major.

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Re: Penn Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby latinxlawschool2020 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:50 am

emx0824 wrote:RD

Complete Nov 3
UR1 Nov 17

Looking forward to receiving some news before Christmas!



same,

complete Nov 1
UR1 Nov 17

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Re: Penn Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby mwells56 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 3:54 pm

Went complete today!

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Re: Penn Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby NavyNuke » Fri Nov 24, 2017 2:20 pm

Just got a view book in the mail... bout had a heart attack when I saw the big penn law envelope!

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Re: Penn Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby wannabegenius » Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:18 pm

NavyNuke wrote:Just got a view book in the mail... bout had a heart attack when I saw the big penn law envelope!


Thanks for the warning. Now I'll know not to have a heart attack when I get mine.

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Re: Penn Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby cwasser3 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:28 pm

Does anybody know when in December decisions usually start going out?

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Re: Penn Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby PostNihilist » Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:37 pm

cwasser3 wrote:Does anybody know when in December decisions usually start going out?

http://mylsn.info/d/penn/1617-NoED/

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Re: Penn Law c/o 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)

Postby cwasser3 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:02 pm

PostNihilist wrote:
cwasser3 wrote:Does anybody know when in December decisions usually start going out?

http://mylsn.info/d/penn/1617-NoED/


Thanks! I was hoping it would be earlier in December. I guess the waiting continues.




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