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Re: University of Washington c/o 2021 | Applicants Thread (2017-2018)

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:43 am
by mcmand
abujabal wrote:
DorkothyParker wrote:My understanding is that the state of Washington doesn't "allow" a URM bump. I've tried Googling, but can't really find much on that. Does anyone have any knowledge on that. I wrote my personal statement and while it hints at some "diversity" issues I've overcome (first generation student, low income), it is *not* a diversity statement. Will I need to create a statement that focuses on these issues as well as my being Mexican-American? Would that be helpful at all?
I'm a little stretched.


I've heard something about this, but I'm not sure about what the actuality of it is. Perhaps rozes or mcmand would have more insight. That said, looking at LSN, the URM graphs seem to be largely the same as the general pop graph, in that 164+ tends to get you accepted. Not sure how it plays into $$.


It's the result of a citizen initiative, I-200. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initiative_200

You can have a personal statement and/or a diversity statement discussing your background, your ethnicity, your race, and/or your gender, or anything else that's relevant to you and why you want to go to law school and why you are a good candidate for UW.

The difference is that there is no explicit boost for race or gender when your application is considered. The admissions office is prohibited by law from weighing that as a factor, even if it's visible on the face of your application. The admissions folks do look at applications holistically, so they will look at your whole application. And a compelling essay based on your URM identity might help, but not because you are an URM; it would be because you wrote something compelling that articulated why you should be at UW Law.

Whether you "need" to create a diversity statement is up to you. If you felt like you didn't get to spend enough time on diversity in your personal statement, then sure, make one. You have to decide how you want to make sure your application conveys everything you want UW to know about you.

Does that make things clear? Or just clear as mud? It's a very difficult position the admissions folks are in for any state university program in Washington, because obviously applicants are going to talk about these issues in their applications, but admissions must walk a tight rope by not giving a boost for URM status itself.

Re: University of Washington c/o 2021 | Applicants Thread (2017-2018)

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:15 pm
by Pewpew
Thanks for getting this thread started. Anyone know when UW's application will be up?

Re: University of Washington c/o 2021 | Applicants Thread (2017-2018)

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:17 pm
by abujabal
Pewpew wrote:Thanks for getting this thread started. Anyone know when UW's application will be up?


31st I believe

Re: University of Washington c/o 2021 | Applicants Thread (2017-2018)

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 8:15 pm
by dm1683
Go pack go :D

Re: University of Washington c/o 2021 | Applicants Thread (2017-2018)

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:29 am
by Pewpew
The app is live!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Re: University of Washington c/o 2021 | Applicants Thread (2017-2018)

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:56 am
by InterLaw
Checking in!

Re: University of Washington c/o 2021 | Applicants Thread (2017-2018)

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:11 am
by andysimbi
Checking in!

Re: University of Washington c/o 2021 | Applicants Thread (2017-2018)

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:04 pm
by DorkothyParker
Anyone do the supplemental essays? I did my statement a couple months ago and totally spaced it until just now.

I like this question: •If you were asked to create a non-profit organization, what would be the organization, its mission, and its purpose?

But I also feel like it begs the question, "Well then why haven't you done this?" Is that just my interpretation? I am prone to over-functioning.

Re: University of Washington c/o 2021 | Applicants Thread (2017-2018)

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:26 pm
by mcmand
DorkothyParker wrote:Anyone do the supplemental essays? I did my statement a couple months ago and totally spaced it until just now.

I like this question: •If you were asked to create a non-profit organization, what would be the organization, its mission, and its purpose?

But I also feel like it begs the question, "Well then why haven't you done this?" Is that just my interpretation? I am prone to over-functioning.


Don't overthink it. They're not trying to set you up to then punish your application for failure to be the most amazing law school applicant ever.

Do whatever best reflects what you want to put forward in your application. If you want to answer that question, then answer it, with a well-written, candid response. If you think you can answer the other essays better, then do the same for them. If you're not sure, write out a draft for each and compare, then revise.

Don't make applying for law school more stressful than it already is! Save your brain for the crippling anxiety of actually being in law school.

Re: University of Washington c/o 2021 | Applicants Thread (2017-2018)

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:48 pm
by Pewpew
+1.

Re: University of Washington c/o 2021 | Applicants Thread (2017-2018)

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:35 pm
by abujabal
Anyone have any insight into how that 9k per year grad tuition assistance grant works? Is that a sure thing if you have no income the year before and are a WA resident (ie, 2L and 3L years)?

Re: University of Washington c/o 2021 | Applicants Thread (2017-2018)

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:40 pm
by mcmand
abujabal wrote:Anyone have any insight into how that 9k per year grad tuition assistance grant works? Is that a sure thing if you have no income the year before and are a WA resident (ie, 2L and 3L years)?


It was a sure thing for me after 1L year. But you'll have to take some initiative and ask during financial aid process 1L spring/summer to make sure it gets awarded to you.

Ask about it this coming spring, too, when you receive your award offer from admissions. I don't know the gory details on how to qualify, but Admissions will, so it's worth pressing the point to make sure money isn't being left on the table.

Re: University of Washington c/o 2021 | Applicants Thread (2017-2018)

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 3:33 pm
by abujabal
mcmand wrote:
abujabal wrote:Anyone have any insight into how that 9k per year grad tuition assistance grant works? Is that a sure thing if you have no income the year before and are a WA resident (ie, 2L and 3L years)?


It was a sure thing for me after 1L year. But you'll have to take some initiative and ask during financial aid process 1L spring/summer to make sure it gets awarded to you.

Ask about it this coming spring, too, when you receive your award offer from admissions. I don't know the gory details on how to qualify, but Admissions will, so it's worth pressing the point to make sure money isn't being left on the table.


Thanks! Definitely worth asking about - worst they can say is no I suppose

Re: University of Washington c/o 2021 | Applicants Thread (2017-2018)

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:16 pm
by mcmand
You guys are a quiet bunch this year, or perhaps not many people have submitted yet.

Re: University of Washington c/o 2021 | Applicants Thread (2017-2018)

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:18 pm
by rowdy
I've submitted but they don't start reviewing until November and won't send out decisions until December. Not much to say.

Re: University of Washington c/o 2021 | Applicants Thread (2017-2018)

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:20 pm
by jellyjar
Checking in!

Re: University of Washington c/o 2021 | Applicants Thread (2017-2018)

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:22 pm
by DorkothyParker
I haven't submitted. I feel like a goofus, I can't find a simple place to request a fee waiver. Do they give merit waivers? Can I request an income-based fee waiver? Much obliged to anyone with information who has emailed them or found an application for fee waiver requests.


I have just submitted to a couple safety schools thus far.

Re: University of Washington c/o 2021 | Applicants Thread (2017-2018)

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:52 pm
by audrinainlaw
Checking in! Good luck to everyone!