Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:And it's so easy to just err on the side of disclosing. Like 90% chance they don't care and what you think is minor actually is minor. In that case they skim it and go "pft what a dumb thing to have to disclose" (literally had a Prof say that to me in an acceptance call) 10% chance what you view as minor and what Duke views as minor are incongruous, in which case it doesn't matter because you've disclosed.
Look sax, you can do what you want re: disclosure, but I have to assume nobody thought an app wasn't following directions since I'm pretty sure everyone you're talking to about this was accepted last year or already in this cycle.
The not following directions thing would be a smaller issue than finding out in three years that Duke did in fact consider any ticket worth points or something as "major"
I agree with you that when there is any ambiguity, disclosure is best. But I'm talking about minor traffic violations only--things with no drug involvement, no recklessness, just simple moving violations. for example, you have a speeding ticket for 10mph over or less, and in your jurisdiction this ticket would never carry the potential risk of jail time and is not a misdemeanor but a noncriminal citation, wouldn't this constitute a "minor traffic violation?" There are several school websites (not Duke's) who specifically list a simple speeding ticket as falling under the umbrella of "minor traffic violations." I actually asked this question to several adcomms at a recent law fair and all of them said speeding ticket=minor traffic violation. I am hyper-diligent about trying to follow directions, and I want to disclose anything and everything I am asked to within the app, but I have up this this point considered not disclosing such an offense (simple speeding ticket) as simply following the directions when the app says not to disclose minor traffic violations.
If, however, certain state bars have some mental gymnastics approach to disclosure where they expect you to have disclosed things on your law school app that the law school app specifically said you shouldn't disclose, that is NEWS to me--and I imagine it is news to a lot of other applicants as well. Until this thread, I've never heard of any instance where a bar would expect you to ignore your law school's application questions when disclosing and just disclose anything and everything regardless of the text of the instructions, and worse, I've never heard of a bar that would punish you for following your application's directions. If true, that's a BIG DEAL, and it's worrisome.
So at this point, I'd ask that you point to any resource you know of that confirms the above scenario. I do not mean people who fail to disclose things they should have on their app. That is obvious! I mean, please point me to resources that confirm that certain state bars will expect you to have disclosed things on your law school application that the law school application specifically said not to disclose. I would be very interested in reading more about the specific scenario I've outlined. Thanks.