SopranoSaxophone wrote:Been getting some interesting feedback re: C&F disclosures and could use this board's insight. If a school's app says to disclose any infraction "excluding minor traffic violations," and you therefore exclude your minor traffic violation on the app, will a state bar that requires traffic violation disclosure see this as an issue when you disclose the traffic violation for the bar? The app specifically said to exclude minor traffic violations, so to my understanding, you would be following the directions by not disclosing it rather than being perceived as trying to hide anything. Some seem to disagree with this assessment and say disclosure even when the app specifies to "exclude minor traffic violations" is the correct way to handle C&F because a state bar could potentially see this as a failure to disclose issue. Can this really be true? i.e. "I see here the school you applied to said you should exclude your speeding ticket and you excluded your speeding ticket, so now you're facing bar admission C&F consequences for excluding your speeding ticket on your law school app even though you disclosed it to us when we asked for it."
If it was truly a minor traffic violation (i.e., textig while driving or speeding 5mph or something) I don't see how it could be a problem if you followed the app question and didnt disclose. However "minor traffic violation" isn't really defined on any of the apps, so you need to be careful of not including something. For example, I got busted speeding 29mph over the limit and had to go to traffic court. At the time it was just traffic school and a fine, but my state now considers this a misdemeanor (even though it wasnt at the time)... so is that a minor traffic ticket? I chose to disclose because in 3 years I dont want to have problems and it has almost a 0% chance of affecting my admission outcomes
I would also tend to treat anything that feels ambiguous as more than "minor" but I would surmise that speeding 10mph or less over the limit, failure to yield at a stop sign, failure to signal, tail light out, etc. to all fall within that "minor" category. Broadly, I think of it as any traffic infraction that does not require a court appearance as part of the fine. (In my state, all of the above traffic offenses are considered "noncriminal traffic citations," not misdemeanors). I would not feel compelled to disclose any of the above if there was a C&F caveat for "minor traffic violations," but perhaps this is wrongheaded on my part?