Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby marisacb1012 » Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:23 am

TheKisSquared wrote:
marisacb1012 wrote:
gazorpazorp wrote:So if a school shuts down my first inquiry for more $, is there a chance they might have a change of heart down the line if I continue to politely prod?

What's extra frustrating is to see other TLS posters who were initially offered $0 from this institution (and who have less leverage) being bumped up to a half tuition scholly after one email -- while I'm sitting here with an initial offer of less than half tuition, and they apparently won't budge.


I have the same question. Got denied today and am wondering if there's any way to ask again.


it heavily depends on the school. I would ask again as scholarship deadlines pass (hence they know how much money is 'free') if you're committed there has been success with asking after the deposit deadline (again they have a better idea of how much scholly money is unused) and again closer to the start of school.


Thanks! What's the best approach in asking a second time? I'm hoping for more from BU. Is it best to deposit at two schools so they know you're still serious about the other, cheaper option? Or just say "I know I asked before and you said no, but....please?"

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby TheKisSquared » Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:33 am

marisacb1012 wrote:
TheKisSquared wrote:
marisacb1012 wrote:
gazorpazorp wrote:So if a school shuts down my first inquiry for more $, is there a chance they might have a change of heart down the line if I continue to politely prod?

What's extra frustrating is to see other TLS posters who were initially offered $0 from this institution (and who have less leverage) being bumped up to a half tuition scholly after one email -- while I'm sitting here with an initial offer of less than half tuition, and they apparently won't budge.


I have the same question. Got denied today and am wondering if there's any way to ask again.


it heavily depends on the school. I would ask again as scholarship deadlines pass (hence they know how much money is 'free') if you're committed there has been success with asking after the deposit deadline (again they have a better idea of how much scholly money is unused) and again closer to the start of school.


Thanks! What's the best approach in asking a second time? I'm hoping for more from BU. Is it best to deposit at two schools so they know you're still serious about the other, cheaper option? Or just say "I know I asked before and you said no, but....please?"


Something polite but firm, saying "I was not offered aid before, however cost is a major factor in my decision.... I understand more $$ might be available as applicants decide on schools... I would love to attend blah because blah... is it possible for my aid package to be reconsidered?" If there is a number you would definitely commit at, tell them. if not, ask for 150% of what you think is the high side of reasonable.

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby Jasondigs » Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:40 pm

How agreeable is NYU to negotiating scholarships? I got better offers from 2 T6 schools, and am above both 75%? I would really appreciate any feedback.
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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby 16to19 » Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:40 pm

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby tezzeret » Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:04 pm

I posted this a page or two back, but I think it got lost with the other posts. Has anyone successfully negotiated for more $$$ after the seat deposit deadline?

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby TheKisSquared » Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:31 am

tezzeret wrote:I posted this a page or two back, but I think it got lost with the other posts. Has anyone successfully negotiated for more $$$ after the seat deposit deadline?


Yes but it heavily depends on the school.

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby tezzeret » Sun Apr 10, 2016 11:13 am

TheKisSquared wrote:
tezzeret wrote:I posted this a page or two back, but I think it got lost with the other posts. Has anyone successfully negotiated for more $$$ after the seat deposit deadline?


Yes but it heavily depends on the school.
Is this something that would be considered uncommon or even rare, generally speaking?

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby MurdockLLP » Sun Apr 10, 2016 11:36 am

tezzeret wrote:
TheKisSquared wrote:
tezzeret wrote:I posted this a page or two back, but I think it got lost with the other posts. Has anyone successfully negotiated for more $$$ after the seat deposit deadline?


Yes but it heavily depends on the school.
Is this something that would be considered uncommon or even rare, generally speaking?


Depends on the school and whether its a first or second deposit deadline. Send them an email requesting more $$ and see where the chips fall. You lose nothing.

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby tezzeret » Sun Apr 10, 2016 12:06 pm

MurdockLLP wrote:
tezzeret wrote:
TheKisSquared wrote:
tezzeret wrote:I posted this a page or two back, but I think it got lost with the other posts. Has anyone successfully negotiated for more $$$ after the seat deposit deadline?


Yes but it heavily depends on the school.
Is this something that would be considered uncommon or even rare, generally speaking?


Depends on the school and whether its a first or second deposit deadline. Send them an email requesting more $$ and see where the chips fall. You lose nothing.
Can we expect better or worse odds on the two deposit deadlines?

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby mmt90 » Mon Apr 11, 2016 1:52 pm

Is there any threat of scholarship revocation if you ask too many times?

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby sjp200 » Mon Apr 11, 2016 1:53 pm

mmt90 wrote:Is there any threat of scholarship revocation if you ask too many times?


no.

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby Lynched.Pin » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:25 pm

I was about to call BS on this, but hey, got a $4k bump on the initial offer. 10/10 Will try again.

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby TheKisSquared » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:34 pm

tezzeret wrote:
MurdockLLP wrote:
tezzeret wrote:
TheKisSquared wrote:
tezzeret wrote:I posted this a page or two back, but I think it got lost with the other posts. Has anyone successfully negotiated for more $$$ after the seat deposit deadline?


Yes but it heavily depends on the school.
Is this something that would be considered uncommon or even rare, generally speaking?


Depends on the school and whether its a first or second deposit deadline. Send them an email requesting more $$ and see where the chips fall. You lose nothing.
Can we expect better or worse odds on the two deposit deadlines?


Heavily depends on the school....

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby sjp200 » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:49 pm

I have schools where most of the deposits are Friday, one is the Monday after that. I'm almost done negotiations with one school that ends the 15th and then I'm just going to take what I have to the one due on the 17th but they almost all have dual deposit clauses. Any idea how I should approach this? I wasn't really offered scholly money until a few weeks ago even though I applied in January. Most of them have more than one deposit but the clause seems to indicate that it's all deposits count for the list that says you can't have a seat reserved at more than one school.

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby Danimals18 » Mon Apr 11, 2016 7:05 pm

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby MurdockLLP » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:14 pm

TheKisSquared wrote:
tezzeret wrote:
MurdockLLP wrote:
tezzeret wrote:
TheKisSquared wrote:
tezzeret wrote:I posted this a page or two back, but I think it got lost with the other posts. Has anyone successfully negotiated for more $$$ after the seat deposit deadline?


Yes but it heavily depends on the school.
Is this something that would be considered uncommon or even rare, generally speaking?


Depends on the school and whether its a first or second deposit deadline. Send them an email requesting more $$ and see where the chips fall. You lose nothing.
Can we expect better or worse odds on the two deposit deadlines?


Heavily depends on the school....


And on the candidate. Most likely, after you've made your final decision about what school to attend the school will have little-to-no incentive to persuade you to attend. But, as I said, send them an email anyway. This is the last time you will ever talk to anyone from admissions so you lose absolutely nothing.

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby tezzeret » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:29 pm

When is it considered making my final decision?

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby jlaw20161 » Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:11 am

Can anyone give me some insight on negotiations after making a seat deposit?

Once I deposit at one school, does this mean my other scholarship offers are effectively off the table for negotiation purposes? Can schools even tell whether or not I've made deposits anywhere else?

Thanks!

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby sjp200 » Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:14 am

jlaw20161 wrote:Can anyone give me some insight on negotiations after making a seat deposit?

Once I deposit at one school, does this mean my other scholarship offers are effectively off the table for negotiation purposes? Can schools even tell whether or not I've made deposits anywhere else?

Thanks!


I'd also like to know the answer to this as far as if they are off the table. BUT I can offer this: There are schools that participate in a dual deposit program. LSAC will keep track of a list where all students deposit, and if a school you deposited to is on the list your name will show up as having deposited there. Some explicitly state that if you are on the list and deposited at another school, your scholly is officially void.

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby Lawdog5 » Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:40 pm

I believe May 15 is when schools can first find out if you deposited elsewhere. The post in the link below talks about the issue of putting down multiple deposits:

http://www.annaivey.com/iveyfiles/is_it ... e_deposits

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby gazorpazorp » Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:02 pm

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby PrayFor170 » Mon Apr 25, 2016 12:05 am

After my scholly negotiation was directly rejected by Michigan, I sent a letter again requesting a scholly reconsideration.
Let's see what happens.
Anyone here ask a second time for scholly reconsideration?

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby sjp200 » Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:55 am

PrayFor170 wrote:After my scholly negotiation was directly rejected by Michigan, I sent a letter again requesting a scholly reconsideration.
Let's see what happens.
Anyone here ask a second time for scholly reconsideration?


Double No's from both schools I asked twice.

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby Budfox55 » Mon Apr 25, 2016 1:39 pm

PrayFor170 wrote:After my scholly negotiation was directly rejected by Michigan, I sent a letter again requesting a scholly reconsideration.
Let's see what happens.
Anyone here ask a second time for scholly reconsideration?


Got a 15k bump from one school when I asked a second time. I had no new offers, but said if I were to receive X amount in scholarship, I would deposit immediately. They met my request and I subsequently deposited immediately.

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Re: Negotiating scholarships works!!!!!

Postby ManoftheHour » Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:54 pm

jlaw20161 wrote:Can anyone give me some insight on negotiations after making a seat deposit?

Once I deposit at one school, does this mean my other scholarship offers are effectively off the table for negotiation purposes? Can schools even tell whether or not I've made deposits anywhere else?

Thanks!

I didn't make my final decision until June. I had deposited at two schools, signed a lease for an apartment and found roommates at one of them. Check the school's policy (the paper they make you sign when you make your first deposit). If the language of it doesn't mention that you can't have multiple deposits or it just discourages you from doing so, then go for it.

Schools can't tell whether you made a deposit until after a certain date. I think it was in May or something. I had deposited at 2 schools by then (both first deposits) and as the second deposit dates were looming, one of the schools (Let's call it school A) reached out to me and told me that I had deposited at 2 schools and that I should tell the other school that I'm not going. lol. I then emailed school A and said I was still considering both schools and that a scholly bump would nudge me in one direction. School A called me, answered a few questions, and gave me a $15k bump. I then emailed School B and told them what happened with School A. I told them I was still undecided. School B bumped up their scholly to full ride and then some. I told School A about my other offer. They let me walk.




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