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Re: UC Davis c/0 2020 App

Postby politibro44 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:58 pm

chili_davis wrote:
politibro44 wrote:
RC_Cola wrote:
Ashleighjarm wrote:
chili_davis wrote:
amta wrote:they hate UCs


Must be the case. (-9) is a little absurd. Largest drop in the top50.


Where are you guys seeing this? The list I see shows they're 30, and I'm pretty sure that's where they've been the whole cycle.


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I'm a current Davis student. According to our administration, the drop is due to the introduction of Public Service Fellowships from the UC Office of the President last year (http://ucop.edu/public-service-law-fell ... index.html). Aside from that our metrics have not changed much. That fellowship program could explain other UCs taking a hit too (though obviously not Irvine or UCLA).

Still sucks and am not happy about it.


Thanks for weighing in on this! Yes, definitely sucks. So I fail to see the correlation between this program and a 9 spot drop in the rankings? Am I missing something? Also did the administration say anything about trying to stop the bleeding? It seems as if UC Davis is on a free fall from low twenties to possibly outside the T50 in the foreseeable future. A little worried as Davis is a top contender for where I end up. Thoughts?


Here's the criteria from last year: https://www.usnews.com/education/best-g ... ethodology

There's a line in there that says, "[f]or the second consecutive year, U.S. News discounted the value of jobs held by graduates that were funded by the law school or the university." That's under the "placement success" category, which accounts for 20% of the rankings. Obviously, I don't know exactly what caused the decline, but it seems plausible that all the schools in this range (30-40) have very similar "scores" and slight fluctuations could have big effects. But again, that's speculation.

The administration has said nothing, I just heard about that reason through the grapevine. The feeling when I was applying to law school was that Davis was trending up and Hastings was trending down. The last two years Davis improved in the rankings. I think to characterize it as a "free fall" is an overstatement. And I question how impactful these rankings' fluctuations actually are. Davis remains a regional-level law school and movement in the 30s won't affect your employment prospects that much, if at all. Even if Davis reaches 28 and ties Irvine, I can't imagine your employment prospects differing that much from it being 39. I could be wrong though.

That said, I still would only attend here if you received a hefty scholarship (or have parental support) and want to practice in California. I can answer more specifically if you have specific goals, i.e., regions you want to practice, type of law, etc.

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Re: UC Davis c/0 2020 App

Postby chili_davis » Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:01 am

politibro44 wrote:
chili_davis wrote:
politibro44 wrote:
RC_Cola wrote:
Ashleighjarm wrote:
chili_davis wrote:
amta wrote:they hate UCs


Must be the case. (-9) is a little absurd. Largest drop in the top50.


Where are you guys seeing this? The list I see shows they're 30, and I'm pretty sure that's where they've been the whole cycle.


==error==/2017-u ... re-here-2/


I'm a current Davis student. According to our administration, the drop is due to the introduction of Public Service Fellowships from the UC Office of the President last year (http://ucop.edu/public-service-law-fell ... index.html). Aside from that our metrics have not changed much. That fellowship program could explain other UCs taking a hit too (though obviously not Irvine or UCLA).

Still sucks and am not happy about it.


Thanks for weighing in on this! Yes, definitely sucks. So I fail to see the correlation between this program and a 9 spot drop in the rankings? Am I missing something? Also did the administration say anything about trying to stop the bleeding? It seems as if UC Davis is on a free fall from low twenties to possibly outside the T50 in the foreseeable future. A little worried as Davis is a top contender for where I end up. Thoughts?


Here's the criteria from last year: https://www.usnews.com/education/best-g ... ethodology

There's a line in there that says, "[f]or the second consecutive year, U.S. News discounted the value of jobs held by graduates that were funded by the law school or the university." That's under the "placement success" category, which accounts for 20% of the rankings. Obviously, I don't know exactly what caused the decline, but it seems plausible that all the schools in this range (30-40) have very similar "scores" and slight fluctuations could have big effects. But again, that's speculation.

The administration has said nothing, I just heard about that reason through the grapevine. The feeling when I was applying to law school was that Davis was trending up and Hastings was trending down. The last two years Davis improved in the rankings. I think to characterize it as a "free fall" is an overstatement. And I question how impactful these rankings' fluctuations actually are. Davis remains a regional-level law school and movement in the 30s won't affect your employment prospects that much, if at all. Even if Davis reaches 28 and ties Irvine, I can't imagine your employment prospects differing that much from it being 39. I could be wrong though.

That said, I still would only attend here if you received a hefty scholarship (or have parental support) and want to practice in California. I can answer more specifically if you have specific goals, i.e., regions you want to practice, type of law, etc.


All very good points and I would agree regarding slight fluctuations having big effects on the 30-40 range. I just don't want to see UC Davis go the same route as Hastings.

I have tuition paid for, but will have to take out loans for a partial portion of my living expenses. My goal is to apply for a military JAG position, but want to leave myself options if it doesn't pan out. Preferably PI or local/state government if not. Would be shooting for SF/Sac/Portland/Seattle if possible.

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Re: UC Davis c/0 2020 App

Postby doneonedone » Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:04 pm

Well I was clearly lied to about how soon scholarship info was coming...

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Re: UC Davis c/0 2020 App

Postby aryi3025 » Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:39 pm

anyone else want to call and get an estimate on that scholly date? i was told this week hahaha and i know someone else called and was told this past monday. getting really anxious and hoping for that wave

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Re: UC Davis c/0 2020 App

Postby imtca » Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:42 pm

at this point, the only acceptable reason for the delay is that they're bumping up schollies to make up for that drop in ranking

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Re: UC Davis c/0 2020 App

Postby aryi3025 » Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:25 pm

for what is worth, i looked at last year's thread and it looks like the first wave of schollys came out on Wed March 9th

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Re: UC Davis c/0 2020 App

Postby amta » Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:27 pm

someone just call.

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Re: UC Davis c/0 2020 App

Postby doneonedone » Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:40 pm

amta wrote:someone just call.


Dude, you call

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Re: UC Davis c/0 2020 App

Postby amta » Wed Mar 08, 2017 3:00 pm

doneonedone wrote:Dude, you call


maybe ill just roll up on fin aid in person tomorrow.

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Re: UC Davis c/0 2020 App

Postby Capt_Beatty » Wed Mar 08, 2017 3:03 pm

amta wrote:
doneonedone wrote:Dude, you call


maybe ill just roll up on fin aid in person tomorrow.


Let's meet on the causeway and do this together.

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Re: UC Davis c/0 2020 App

Postby imtca » Wed Mar 08, 2017 3:04 pm

amta wrote:
doneonedone wrote:Dude, you call


maybe ill just roll up on fin aid in person tomorrow.


doooo it

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Re: UC Davis c/0 2020 App

Postby Illegallyblondey » Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:21 pm

I called yesterday and they said they will be coming out over the next two weeks...

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Re: UC Davis c/0 2020 App

Postby Gitaroo_Dude » Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:26 pm

Illegallyblondey wrote:I called yesterday and they said they will be coming out over the next two weeks...


Oof, that's gonna be really frustrating if true.

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Re: UC Davis c/0 2020 App

Postby ssolli » Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:31 pm

I just called. They said they're starting to release scholarships "in the next week or so". They also said they'll be released in the order people were accepted...

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Re: UC Davis c/0 2020 App

Postby amta » Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:17 pm

just got my scholly

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Re: UC Davis c/0 2020 App

Postby snowball17 » Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:17 pm

Scholly info is out!!

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Re: UC Davis c/0 2020 App

Postby chili_davis » Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:22 pm

Same! Definitely happy with what I'm seeing.

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Re: UC Davis c/0 2020 App

Postby largemarge26 » Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:24 pm

above GPA median and barely below LSAT median, offer of 18,000 a year (median scholarship supposed to be 25,000 source: smart class)... This combined with their drop in ranking takes them out of the running for me. Good luck to everyone else!

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Re: UC Davis c/0 2020 App

Postby vho1791 » Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:25 pm

LSAT>75th
GPA<25th

$35K a year.


ugh, between Davis and Loyola now.

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Re: UC Davis c/0 2020 App

Postby charles117 » Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:29 pm

amta wrote:just got my scholly

+2

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Re: UC Davis c/0 2020 App

Postby imtca » Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:32 pm

Got mine as well, 40,000 a year

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Re: UC Davis c/0 2020 App

Postby Capt_Beatty » Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:09 pm

mashing f5

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Re: UC Davis c/0 2020 App

Postby Ashleighjarm » Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:10 pm

Got my letter too- anybody else going to try and negotiate?

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Re: UC Davis c/0 2020 App

Postby aryi3025 » Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:36 pm

for those who have received there offers already, does it say to keep them confidential? also via email, snail, or phone?

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Re: UC Davis c/0 2020 App

Postby crookedsmile » Fri Mar 10, 2017 7:34 pm

aryi3025 wrote:for those who have received there offers already, does it say to keep them confidential? also via email, snail, or phone?


VIa email. Does not say to keep it confidential.



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