Pozzo wrote:seeprybyrun wrote:Rigo wrote:Pozzo wrote:unrelated wrote:acz26 wrote:Rigo wrote:Harvard clerking numbers aren't even that much better than Virginia so I don't think that'd be worth the money at all.
16% v. 19%
Compared to 26% for S and 34% for Y
Where are you getting these numbers from...Stanford posts 35% on its website, and Yale has about 40% on its website, I believe. Harvard's is also higher
Aren't clerkship percentages kinda pointless unless class size is also taken into account? 16% of Harvard class and 19% of UVA class are both higher total numbers than S and Y.
Opposite, actually. Raw numbers don't mean much unless class size is taken into account.
Some lawyers can do math, I swear!
I'm curious what percentage of the class in each of these schools applies for clerkships. If 60% of Yale grads apply but only 40% get one, that's as good as 45% of Harvard grads applying and 15% getting one.
Not sure that data is readily available, so outcomes is all we really have to go on. You might be able to get some anecdata over on the clerkship board or the HLS/YLS threads "Ask a Law Student" board.
And if my math is right (which it may not be--it's been a long week), it would actually be more like 60% applied/40% successful and 45% applied/30% successful.
e: FWIW, there is data on the per capita placement and overall placement for Supreme Court Clerks here. Harvard and Yale have placed almost the same number of SCCs over the 10 year period, but the per capita rate is much higher for Y due to its small size. S's per capita rate is on par with H.
Yeah I think the quality of clerkships argument is much more compelling than % or class size alone (or even together for that matter) if you're looking to pick a school based on clerkship opportunity.