Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

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Next JS2 wave(s) will be...

Monday 3/27
2
2%
Tuesday 3/28
18
17%
Wednesday 3/29
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33%
Thursday 3/30
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12%
Friday 3/31
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27%
Saturday 4/1
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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Smc1994 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:23 pm

hammy393 wrote:
Smc1994 wrote:
alpinespring wrote:
hammy393 wrote:
MrJD2020 wrote:What's our view on number of JS1s that might still go out or on percentage of this cycle's JS1s that have been scheduled or completed?


At this point last year, only 4 out of 24 JS1 waves remained


Jesus


This time last year, Jeb Bush had just dropped out of the primary. A lot of unpredictable things can happen. Let's not extrapolate from incomplete data. Even with my optimistic analysis, I know how freaked out I would be if I read through this thread looking for information about JS1s. It's March, and I understand that our collective anxiety may soon reach fever pitch, but let's try to be a little bit considerate of whether our data contributions actually add something valuable to the available information.


Regardless, we're at a point in the cycle where there are likely few JS1s to be handed out. Exactly how many, nobody knows


Take your YLS acceptance and stop freaking out the locals ;)

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby CA1993 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:27 pm

MrJD2020 wrote:What's our view on number of JS1s that might still go out or on percentage of this cycle's JS1s that have been scheduled or completed?


I think this time last year there was about a week of JS1s left... i would assume most of the ones from here on out would be people with lower stats but something else interesting about them (pure speculation)

i think probably for those of us without something special about our app it's safe to say the chances are very slim

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby MrJD2020 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:42 pm

CA1993 wrote:
MrJD2020 wrote:What's our view on number of JS1s that might still go out or on percentage of this cycle's JS1s that have been scheduled or completed?


I think this time last year there was about a week of JS1s left... i would assume most of the ones from here on out would be people with lower stats but something else interesting about them (pure speculation)

i think probably for those of us without something special about our app it's safe to say the chances are very slim


*convinces himself there is something special about his app*

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby CA1993 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:59 pm

MrJD2020 wrote:
CA1993 wrote:
MrJD2020 wrote:What's our view on number of JS1s that might still go out or on percentage of this cycle's JS1s that have been scheduled or completed?


I think this time last year there was about a week of JS1s left... i would assume most of the ones from here on out would be people with lower stats but something else interesting about them (pure speculation)

i think probably for those of us without something special about our app it's safe to say the chances are very slim


*convinces himself there is something special about his app*


yesss stay strong and good luck! i've given up all hope

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Kinch08 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:11 pm

MrJD2020 wrote:
CA1993 wrote:
MrJD2020 wrote:What's our view on number of JS1s that might still go out or on percentage of this cycle's JS1s that have been scheduled or completed?


I think this time last year there was about a week of JS1s left... i would assume most of the ones from here on out would be people with lower stats but something else interesting about them (pure speculation)

i think probably for those of us without something special about our app it's safe to say the chances are very slim


*convinces himself there is something special about his app*


Your app sounded hella special last I heard. Low #s/good softs is the sweet spot for a march JS1. I believe.

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby MrJD2020 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:24 pm

Kinch08 wrote:
MrJD2020 wrote:
CA1993 wrote:
MrJD2020 wrote:What's our view on number of JS1s that might still go out or on percentage of this cycle's JS1s that have been scheduled or completed?


I think this time last year there was about a week of JS1s left... i would assume most of the ones from here on out would be people with lower stats but something else interesting about them (pure speculation)

i think probably for those of us without something special about our app it's safe to say the chances are very slim


*convinces himself there is something special about his app*


Your app sounded hella special last I heard. Low #s/good softs is the sweet spot for a march JS1. I believe.


Thank you :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby CHyde » Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:25 pm

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Future Ex-Engineer » Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:26 pm

CHyde wrote:
Kinch08 wrote:
MrJD2020 wrote:
CA1993 wrote:
MrJD2020 wrote:What's our view on number of JS1s that might still go out or on percentage of this cycle's JS1s that have been scheduled or completed?


I think this time last year there was about a week of JS1s left... i would assume most of the ones from here on out would be people with lower stats but something else interesting about them (pure speculation)

i think probably for those of us without something special about our app it's safe to say the chances are very slim


*convinces himself there is something special about his app*


Your app sounded hella special last I heard. Low #s/good softs is the sweet spot for a march JS1. I believe.


I've heard HLS is much less black box (read: emphasis on softs) than Y & S. True or nah? Can softs really make the difference?


I sure hope they can :lol:

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby MrJD2020 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:28 pm

mrgstephe wrote:
CHyde wrote:
Kinch08 wrote:
MrJD2020 wrote:
CA1993 wrote:
MrJD2020 wrote:What's our view on number of JS1s that might still go out or on percentage of this cycle's JS1s that have been scheduled or completed?


I think this time last year there was about a week of JS1s left... i would assume most of the ones from here on out would be people with lower stats but something else interesting about them (pure speculation)

i think probably for those of us without something special about our app it's safe to say the chances are very slim


*convinces himself there is something special about his app*


Your app sounded hella special last I heard. Low #s/good softs is the sweet spot for a march JS1. I believe.


I've heard HLS is much less black box (read: emphasis on softs) than Y & S. True or nah? Can softs really make the difference?


I sure hope they can :lol:


Only positive vibes in this thread from now on! Starting with: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H50llsHm3k

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby jpark86 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:28 pm

mrgstephe wrote:
CHyde wrote:
Kinch08 wrote:
MrJD2020 wrote:
CA1993 wrote:
MrJD2020 wrote:What's our view on number of JS1s that might still go out or on percentage of this cycle's JS1s that have been scheduled or completed?


I think this time last year there was about a week of JS1s left... i would assume most of the ones from here on out would be people with lower stats but something else interesting about them (pure speculation)

i think probably for those of us without something special about our app it's safe to say the chances are very slim


*convinces himself there is something special about his app*


Your app sounded hella special last I heard. Low #s/good softs is the sweet spot for a march JS1. I believe.


I've heard HLS is much less black box (read: emphasis on softs) than Y & S. True or nah? Can softs really make the difference?


I sure hope they can :lol:


im reallly banking on this too!

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Kinch08 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:32 pm

CHyde wrote:
Kinch08 wrote:
MrJD2020 wrote:
CA1993 wrote:
MrJD2020 wrote:What's our view on number of JS1s that might still go out or on percentage of this cycle's JS1s that have been scheduled or completed?


I think this time last year there was about a week of JS1s left... i would assume most of the ones from here on out would be people with lower stats but something else interesting about them (pure speculation)

i think probably for those of us without something special about our app it's safe to say the chances are very slim


*convinces himself there is something special about his app*


Your app sounded hella special last I heard. Low #s/good softs is the sweet spot for a march JS1. I believe.


I've heard HLS is much less black box (read: emphasis on softs) than Y & S. True or nah? Can softs really make the difference?


It's definitely true, but there's a lot of space between "less emphasis than Y/S" and "softs cannot make the difference."

Plenty of people who're below both 25ths get admitted every year; that would not be the case if softs could never matter.

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby CHyde » Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:37 pm

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Kinch08 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:42 pm

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby dokumented » Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:50 pm

Kinch08 wrote:
CHyde wrote:
Fair point. I'm curious as to how many of those below both 25ths are URM though. I'm going to assume...a majority.


Many of them probably are, I'd imagine (IDK about a majority, but I suppose it's possible). Still, if softs had no impact at all, you would be able to predict success based on URM status and numbers alone; we have more than enough evidence from LSN etc. to determine that we can't do that.


I probably fit that profile, but no JS1, so hard to say.

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby appind » Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:56 pm

CHyde wrote:
Kinch08 wrote:
CHyde wrote:
Kinch08 wrote:
MrJD2020 wrote:
CA1993 wrote:
MrJD2020 wrote:What's our view on number of JS1s that might still go out or on percentage of this cycle's JS1s that have been scheduled or completed?


I think this time last year there was about a week of JS1s left... i would assume most of the ones from here on out would be people with lower stats but something else interesting about them (pure speculation)

i think probably for those of us without something special about our app it's safe to say the chances are very slim


*convinces himself there is something special about his app*


Your app sounded hella special last I heard. Low #s/good softs is the sweet spot for a march JS1. I believe.


I've heard HLS is much less black box (read: emphasis on softs) than Y & S. True or nah? Can softs really make the difference?


It's definitely true, but there's a lot of space between "less emphasis than Y/S" and "softs cannot make the difference."

Plenty of people who're below both 25ths get admitted every year; that would not be the case if softs could never matter.


Fair point. I'm curious as to how many of those below both 25ths are URM though. I'm going to assume...a majority.


Vast majority imo instead of just majority. I suspect there is no non-urm js1 that has both numbers below 25 percentile?
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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby appind » Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:57 pm

LHS17 wrote:
Me as well


can you share stats, dates?

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Future Ex-Engineer » Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:59 pm

Kinch08 wrote:
CHyde wrote:
Fair point. I'm curious as to how many of those below both 25ths are URM though. I'm going to assume...a majority.


Many of them probably are, I'd imagine (IDK about a majority, but I suppose it's possible). Still, if softs had no impact at all, you would be able to predict success based on URM status and numbers alone; we have more than enough evidence from LSN etc. to determine that we can't do that.


While I know that this thread in itself doesn't necessarily constitute statistical significance, if we are to base any assessments off of it, the *vast* majority of sub 170 LSATs that get JS1s are URM. As of this point in the thread, only 1 non-URM has reported even getting an interview with <25th LSAT.

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Postby appind » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:13 pm

mrgstephe wrote:
Kinch08 wrote:
CHyde wrote:
Fair point. I'm curious as to how many of those below both 25ths are URM though. I'm going to assume...a majority.


Many of them probably are, I'd imagine (IDK about a majority, but I suppose it's possible). Still, if softs had no impact at all, you would be able to predict success based on URM status and numbers alone; we have more than enough evidence from LSN etc. to determine that we can't do that.


While I know that this thread in itself doesn't necessarily constitute statistical significance, if we are to base any assessments off of it, the *vast* majority of sub 170 LSATs that get JS1s are URM. As of this point in the thread, only 1 non-URM has reported even getting an interview with <25th LSAT.


true imo. May be there is NO non-URM so far with both < 25% with JS1 ?

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Future Ex-Engineer » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:14 pm

appind wrote:
mrgstephe wrote:
Kinch08 wrote:
CHyde wrote:
Fair point. I'm curious as to how many of those below both 25ths are URM though. I'm going to assume...a majority.


Many of them probably are, I'd imagine (IDK about a majority, but I suppose it's possible). Still, if softs had no impact at all, you would be able to predict success based on URM status and numbers alone; we have more than enough evidence from LSN etc. to determine that we can't do that.


While I know that this thread in itself doesn't necessarily constitute statistical significance, if we are to base any assessments off of it, the *vast* majority of sub 170 LSATs that get JS1s are URM. As of this point in the thread, only 1 non-URM has reported even getting an interview with <25th LSAT.


true imo. May be there is NO non-URM so far with both < 25% with JS1 ?


Conventional wisdom would indicate that is probably true. I'm hoping that I can sneak a JS1 with non-URM LSAT<25th, 75th<GPA

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby LHS17 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:47 pm

appind wrote:
LHS17 wrote:
Me as well


can you share stats, dates?


Reverse splitter, applied Jan, offered JS1 last week

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby hydrohect » Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:11 pm

appind wrote:I suspect there is no non-urm js1 that has both numbers below 25 percentile?


mrgstephe wrote:As of this point in the thread, only 1 non-URM has reported even getting an interview with <25th LSAT.


LSAT<25 & GPA=25, non-URM here. JS1 late January.

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Rigo » Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:38 pm

patrickkpaul wrote:
appind wrote:I suspect there is no non-urm js1 that has both numbers below 25 percentile?


mrgstephe wrote:As of this point in the thread, only 1 non-URM has reported even getting an interview with <25th LSAT.


LSAT<25 & GPA=25, non-URM here. JS1 late January.

Tiffany is that you?

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby hydrohect » Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:40 pm

Rigo wrote:
patrickkpaul wrote:
appind wrote:I suspect there is no non-urm js1 that has both numbers below 25 percentile?


mrgstephe wrote:As of this point in the thread, only 1 non-URM has reported even getting an interview with <25th LSAT.


LSAT<25 & GPA=25, non-URM here. JS1 late January.

Tiffany is that you?

:wink: :wink: :wink:

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby goldenbear2020 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:41 pm

Rigo wrote:
patrickkpaul wrote:
appind wrote:I suspect there is no non-urm js1 that has both numbers below 25 percentile?


mrgstephe wrote:As of this point in the thread, only 1 non-URM has reported even getting an interview with <25th LSAT.


LSAT<25 & GPA=25, non-URM here. JS1 late January.

Tiffany is that you?

Lol she would have gotten a combo JS1/JS2 in mid-November.

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash » Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:56 pm

goldenbear2020 wrote:
Rigo wrote:
patrickkpaul wrote:
appind wrote:I suspect there is no non-urm js1 that has both numbers below 25 percentile?


mrgstephe wrote:As of this point in the thread, only 1 non-URM has reported even getting an interview with <25th LSAT.


LSAT<25 & GPA=25, non-URM here. JS1 late January.

Tiffany is that you?

Lol she would have gotten a combo JS1/JS2 in mid-November.

I don't think TT has been accepted yet honestly



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