Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

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Next JS2 wave(s) will be...

Monday 3/27
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Tuesday 3/28
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Wednesday 3/29
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Thursday 3/30
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Friday 3/31
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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby pretzeltime » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:35 am

mrgstephe wrote:
pretzeltime wrote:I think the legality of this EO is up for debate (and citing one prominent scholar neither proves nor denies that it is legal, the courts will decide that)

And I also think that approximately 0 minds will be changed on this applicants thread in either direction, whether about SCOTUS or Trump or whatever.

So maybe we should all agree to fight about this when we're 7 beers deep at Bar Review, k?


I agree that no one's mind will be changed, but as aspiring members of the legal community, it seems pretty irresponsible to be tossing around claims 'unconstitutionality' and 'apparent overreaches of executive authority' because of an emotional/moral disagreement with EOs.

There is undisputed legal precedent, and that's the fact. We don't have to like it, but claiming something to the contrary is just silly.

At very best, it is *possibly* questionable - not straight up unconstitutional.

http://ericposner.com/is-an-immigration ... itutional/


I said the legality is "up for debate" which I believe is more or less the same as saying that it is "possibly questionable". Not that it is or is not unconstitutional.

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Future Ex-Engineer » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:37 am

notorious_mig wrote:
mrgstephe wrote:
pretzeltime wrote:I think the legality of this EO is up for debate (and citing one prominent scholar neither proves nor denies that it is legal, the courts will decide that)

And I also think that approximately 0 minds will be changed on this applicants thread in either direction, whether about SCOTUS or Trump or whatever.

So maybe we should all agree to fight about this when we're 7 beers deep at Bar Review, k?


I agree that no one's mind will be changed, but as aspiring members of the legal community, it seems pretty irresponsible to be tossing around claims 'unconstitutionality' and 'apparent overreaches of executive authority' because of an emotional/moral disagreement with EOs.

There is undisputed legal precedent, and that's the fact. We don't have to like it, but claiming something to the contrary is just silly.

At very best, it is *possibly* questionable - not straight up unconstitutional.

http://ericposner.com/is-an-immigration ... itutional/



Thanks for including the Eric Posner link, I'm gonna check it out. But please also note that I did respond to your previous post not strictly with emotional/moral disagreement but with precedent, US v Texas. I'm with you that as aspiring members of the legal community we've got to make legal arguments rather than emotional/moral ones, and I'm pretty certain I did that in response to your post above.


Yep! I think I just missed your post between writing my first response and your posting your US v Texas argument.

As it stands, I'm definitely not qualified to make a strong legal argument either way (as indicated by the 0L status), but I do agree it's rough for a lot of people, and I hope your dad doesn't have any complications because of it.

And now to avoid derailing the thread - WHERE IS MY JS1????

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby canafsa » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:38 am

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby pretzeltime » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:39 am

Listen y'all, it's February aka JS2 hotzone and it's super rude to bump this thread a bunch of times unless it's to say JS just called ya. You're going to give people heart failure. So pls just take it to the lounge, or better yet, somewhere productive.

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Monday » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:40 am

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby pretzeltime » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:45 am

Monday wrote:Bumping to tease pretzeltime.


Bumping for lols is still chill in my world so tease away bb. I'm just tryina keep the peace (why do I bother...?), it's too soon for me to be worrying about a JS2 anyway.

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby notorious_mig » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:48 am

mrgstephe wrote:
notorious_mig wrote:
mrgstephe wrote:
pretzeltime wrote:I think the legality of this EO is up for debate (and citing one prominent scholar neither proves nor denies that it is legal, the courts will decide that)

And I also think that approximately 0 minds will be changed on this applicants thread in either direction, whether about SCOTUS or Trump or whatever.

So maybe we should all agree to fight about this when we're 7 beers deep at Bar Review, k?


I agree that no one's mind will be changed, but as aspiring members of the legal community, it seems pretty irresponsible to be tossing around claims 'unconstitutionality' and 'apparent overreaches of executive authority' because of an emotional/moral disagreement with EOs.

There is undisputed legal precedent, and that's the fact. We don't have to like it, but claiming something to the contrary is just silly.

At very best, it is *possibly* questionable - not straight up unconstitutional.

http://ericposner.com/is-an-immigration ... itutional/



Thanks for including the Eric Posner link, I'm gonna check it out. But please also note that I did respond to your previous post not strictly with emotional/moral disagreement but with precedent, US v Texas. I'm with you that as aspiring members of the legal community we've got to make legal arguments rather than emotional/moral ones, and I'm pretty certain I did that in response to your post above.


Yep! I think I just missed your post between writing my first response and your posting your US v Texas argument.

As it stands, I'm definitely not qualified to make a strong legal argument either way (as indicated by the 0L status), but I do agree it's rough for a lot of people, and I hope your dad doesn't have any complications because of it.

And now to avoid derailing the thread - WHERE IS MY JS1????


Ahhh I gotcha! Yeah given my lack of a JD (slash any law school experience) I am 100% speculating beyond my expertise haha but I do love talking about this. Thanks for your well wishes for my dad!

Also waiting for a JS2 and every time I see "Inbox (1)" I get 2 turnt and like 90% of the time it's an article from my mom. Thanks Michelle you're the best love u but also am slowly dying

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby notorious_mig » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:49 am

pretzeltime wrote:Listen y'all, it's February aka JS2 hotzone and it's super rude to bump this thread a bunch of times unless it's to say JS just called ya. You're going to give people heart failure. So pls just take it to the lounge, or better yet, somewhere productive.

I say as I bump the thread


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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby dhbiv » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:50 am

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby ashrice13 » Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:24 pm

Just got a call from a cambridge number. It's really annoying when you live in MA so anyone could be calling you from Cambridge.

I haven't even gotten a JS1 so there is no reason why someone would call me instead of emailing me but it still made my heart jump :oops:

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby goldenbear2020 » Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:33 pm

ashrice13 wrote:Just got a call from a cambridge number. It's really annoying when you live in MA so anyone could be calling you from Cambridge.

I haven't even gotten a JS1 so there is no reason why someone would call me instead of emailing me but it still made my heart jump :oops:

A JS2 would be from a 617-495-xxxx number.

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Future Ex-Engineer » Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:41 pm

goldenbear2020 wrote:
ashrice13 wrote:Just got a call from a cambridge number. It's really annoying when you live in MA so anyone could be calling you from Cambridge.

I haven't even gotten a JS1 so there is no reason why someone would call me instead of emailing me but it still made my heart jump :oops:

A JS2 would be from a 617-495-xxxx number.


So if I can figure out that number, they're obligated to give me a JS2 right? I'm sure I could try dialing 10000 numbers if it guaranteed getting in

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby fam1994 » Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:55 pm

sorry if this question has already been answered but i just had my JS1 this morning and am too emotionally fatigued to go digging through this thread, so... how long do people generally have to wait to hear back post-JS1, whether WL, ding, or JS2? HLS is definitely a reach for me - idk how i got JS1 in the first place but it gave me hope and now i'm anxious (already)

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby chandhi » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:12 pm

fam1994 wrote:sorry if this question has already been answered but i just had my JS1 this morning and am too emotionally fatigued to go digging through this thread, so... how long do people generally have to wait to hear back post-JS1, whether WL, ding, or JS2? HLS is definitely a reach for me - idk how i got JS1 in the first place but it gave me hope and now i'm anxious (already)

I have no answer but thank you for giving me hope - we have almost the same stats. Hope it went well for you! And keep us updated if you get JS2. :)

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby airwrecka » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:14 pm

fam1994 wrote:sorry if this question has already been answered but i just had my JS1 this morning and am too emotionally fatigued to go digging through this thread, so... how long do people generally have to wait to hear back post-JS1, whether WL, ding, or JS2? HLS is definitely a reach for me - idk how i got JS1 in the first place but it gave me hope and now i'm anxious (already)


There have only been two rounds of JS2s and no WL or dings yet (as far as I know). So there is not enough data to give you an answer. Most likely it will be a long wait because there are many people who have been waiting months to get a decision after their JS1.

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby hammy393 » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:21 pm

fam1994 wrote:sorry if this question has already been answered but i just had my JS1 this morning and am too emotionally fatigued to go digging through this thread, so... how long do people generally have to wait to hear back post-JS1, whether WL, ding, or JS2? HLS is definitely a reach for me - idk how i got JS1 in the first place but it gave me hope and now i'm anxious (already)


Last year's average wait was about 7 weeks. You'd probably hear back in mid to late March at the earliest. The OP has last year's wave dates

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby minkbrigade » Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:31 pm

HowdyDoo wrote:
tomgirl wrote:
minkbrigade wrote:
sadie2law wrote:I had my JS1 yesterday. Hopeful that it went well. My interviewer was lovely. Feel free to message me if you have any questions!

Applied 12/11, interview request 1/18, interview 1/25


If folks who have already had their interview feel comfortable elaborating on the questions they were asked here, I'd love that!


Second!


Had my interview yesterday! Went well, the questions were fairly easy compared to what I had imagined (they asked what was my main overall takeaway from college, about my my job after college, and what specific type of law I'm interested in) and also what I thought stood out most from my application.

[for the record, I applied Jan 3rd, have exactly =75 LSAT and GPA. Good luck to us all! :| :| ]


Thank you!! This was super helpful. To pay it forward a bit, I had my interview earlier this week and was asked the following:
-To tell them a bit about my job
-What about my work experience led me to law school
-What personal characteristics and qualities I would bring to HLS
-A time at work where I had to revise my initial approach to something

It was super conversational, and my interviewer was friendly and relatable. I also had an interview with Columbia earlier this week, and felt like Harvard's was a way more friendly experience and more of what I would typically expect in an interview--i.e., more "tell me about a time when..." and less, "Why do you have x, y, z on your resume?"

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby RictusErectus » Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:40 pm

blahblah123 wrote:
unrelated wrote:
xnsch wrote:Wow that was incredibly thoughtful. Got a package today from HLS that contained a book on the modern history of same-sex marriage litigation in the U.S. along with a note from the author (HLS professor) on the title page. I wrote about how being gay had given me an interest in civil rights battles in the courts and thought this was an incredibly nice and personal gesture and it's nice to know they really do care about the content of our applications :)


I think you have to enroll now.


+1 on this idea. I come from a country that is affected by the recent Muslim ban, and I received a phone call from JS herself asking me how things are going and if HLS could be of assistance in any way. Super impressed.


Wow that is really considerate. Well done, HLS ad-comms.

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby badgalriri9 » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:11 pm

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Postby J-E-T-S » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:18 pm

badgalriri9 wrote:Please don't quote!!!!!

Is it okay to just email a thank you note to the general JD admissions email? I can't find my interviewer's email anywhere.


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Postby ood » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:22 pm

J-E-T-S wrote:
badgalriri9 wrote:Please don't quote!!!!!

Is it okay to just email a thank you note to the general JD admissions email? I can't find my interviewer's email anywhere.


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What was her name? or just send it to the general email

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby VapidP » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:30 pm

ood wrote:
J-E-T-S wrote:
badgalriri9 wrote:Please don't quote!!!!!

Is it okay to just email a thank you note to the general JD admissions email? I can't find my interviewer's email anywhere.


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What was her name? or just send it to the general email


rekt.

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:33 pm

pretzeltime wrote:Bumping for lols

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Re: Harvard Law c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Future Ex-Engineer » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:36 pm

VapidP wrote:
ood wrote:
J-E-T-S wrote:
badgalriri9 wrote:Please don't quote!!!!!

Is it okay to just email a thank you note to the general JD admissions email? I can't find my interviewer's email anywhere.


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What was her name? or just send it to the general email


rekt.


whatever will happen if the adcomm finds out badgirlriri couldn't figure out whether or not she should send a thank you email for an interview :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:



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