Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

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if waitlisted, are you going to stay on it?

yes, until the very end
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45%
yes, but only until July (or something like that)
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no
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22%
idk???
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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby bunney_j » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:44 am

pawneeron wrote:
SamuelDanforth wrote:
bunney_j wrote: I'm not sure if applying is worth the $80, as I am on a tight budget...

TL;DR: Has anyone been admitted with lesser numbers? Or knows what kind of insane package lets them overlook a lower LSAT? I am financially constrained, and not sure if I should bother - but did notice they admitted a 153 last year...


YLS's admissions process is such that predictions are difficult to make with any degree of honesty. For what it's worth I was admitted with a GPA under their 25th and an LSAT a smidge over their 50th. My hunch is that between 3.7-3.9, and 169-175, other factors are dispositive -- namely your LoR and writing samples. I have a hunch about what led to my being admitted, but it's all rationalization from outside the black box. My opinion is that you certainly have numbers that keep you in play, so spend the time necessary to really perfect your opportunities to write and sell yourself on the application, and just send in an app.


Agree--In my case, I was admitted with similar numbers (LSAT around the 25th percentile and GPA around median), and arguably without any sort of "insane package." In speaking with professors at the ASW, it seems that there is definitely a wide range of weighing mechanisms they use when reading applications; it's ultimately the luck of the draw in terms of who reads your folder and how. That said, since your numbers would get you to this stage of consideration, I think it would be worth it to try your shot.



Thanks for the insight!! I'm going to submit. I have my 250 already written, I was just debating between using the last of the money I allocated for apps on Yale or on Duke

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby BuyaLittleMercy » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:13 pm

Smart money on no more acceptances----Yale just deciding 20-odd folks is enough for a class cohort this year?

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby RictusErectus » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:49 pm

BuyaLittleMercy wrote:Smart money on no more acceptances----Yale just deciding 20-odd folks is enough for a class cohort this year?


ya i heard their ASW this year is just a pillow fortress in one new haven room with an ouija board for entertainment.

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby canafsa » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:37 pm

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby SamuelDanforth » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:44 pm

bunney_j wrote:
SamuelDanforth wrote:
bunney_j wrote: I'm not sure if applying is worth the $80, as I am on a tight budget...

TL;DR: Has anyone been admitted with lesser numbers? Or knows what kind of insane package lets them overlook a lower LSAT? I am financially constrained, and not sure if I should bother - but did notice they admitted a 153 last year...


YLS's admissions process is such that predictions are difficult to make with any degree of honesty. For what it's worth I was admitted with a GPA under their 25th and an LSAT a smidge over their 50th. My hunch is that between 3.7-3.9, and 169-175, other factors are dispositive -- namely your LoR and writing samples. I have a hunch about what led to my being admitted, but it's all rationalization from outside the black box. My opinion is that you certainly have numbers that keep you in play, so spend the time necessary to really perfect your opportunities to write and sell yourself on the application, and just send in an app.



Thanks appreciate it - I was debating between Duke/Yale, but think I'll try Yale even if it's a long shot! Are you a URM? I am, but not sure if that matters to Yale since they don't ask.


I am not. But I suspect it matters to many faculty, given the conversations that have taken place in recent years at the law school about the importance of diversity in the law. That said, because of the decentralized nature of YLS admissions, there is possibly less consistency to YLS's URM admittance numbers year to year. But I haven't looked.

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby BuyaLittleMercy » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:09 pm

canafsa wrote:
RictusErectus wrote:
BuyaLittleMercy wrote:...with an ouija board for entertainment.


Ah smart move. I presume that's to channel the admissions committee?


Yeah? Does Asha and her deputy do the hands on the letter pointer? Or do they have to bring in mystics?

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Pozzo » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:23 pm

I had a dream last night that I was driving around new haven in a pickup truck interviewing with Asha. That's a good sign, right?

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby pretzeltime » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:40 pm

Pozzo wrote:I had a dream last night that I was driving around new haven in a pickup truck interviewing with Asha. That's a good sign, right?


as far as admission dreams go, that sounds pretty chill

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby crookedsmile » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:43 pm

Pozzo wrote:I had a dream last night that I was driving around new haven in a pickup truck interviewing with Asha. That's a good sign, right?


Would you say the pickup truck is symbolic of anything?

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby pretzeltime » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:44 pm

Just changed my poll vote to "Never"

Listen YLS, I appreciate that you're currently a little preoccupied "holding together our frail democracy in the face of an autocratic attack on due process, the judiciary, and civil rights" but I'd also appreciate if you could, like, make some admissions decisions. Priorities.

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Pozzo » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:51 pm

crookedsmile wrote:
Pozzo wrote:I had a dream last night that I was driving around new haven in a pickup truck interviewing with Asha. That's a good sign, right?


Would you say the pickup truck is symbolic of anything?

I'm thinking a couple of things:

1. As it was a rainy night in the dream, perhaps the 4WD tuck symbolizes that I too am equipped for the challenges of the YLS admissions process
2. Like most men with trucks, applying to YLS is my way of... ahem... compensating...

Or maybe it's just that in Trump's America, we all drive trucks

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby AndromedaGalaxy » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:57 pm

Pozzo wrote:
crookedsmile wrote:
Pozzo wrote:I had a dream last night that I was driving around new haven in a pickup truck interviewing with Asha. That's a good sign, right?


Would you say the pickup truck is symbolic of anything?

I'm thinking a couple of things:

1. As it was a rainy night in the dream, perhaps the 4WD tuck symbolizes that I too am equipped for the challenges of the YLS admissions process
2. Like most men with trucks, applying to YLS is my way of... ahem... compensating...

Or maybe it's just that in Trump's America, we all drive trucks


Of course we all drive trucks. How else are you going to navigate the post-Trump Mad Max-esque wasteland?

Also, Yale is in no rush to acknowledge the completeness of my application, and it is a daily struggle not to bother them about this.

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby tinycatfriend » Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:22 pm

On the updating resume: I just got promoted, and, more relevant, I've been volunteering as an interpreter with the ACLU (I speak arabic) given what's happening lately... should I tell them this? Is it worth sending an update about?

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby letmeinplease47 » Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:59 pm

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby pretzeltime » Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:02 pm

tinycatfriend wrote:On the updating resume: I just got promoted, and, more relevant, I've been volunteering as an interpreter with the ACLU (I speak arabic) given what's happening lately... should I tell them this? Is it worth sending an update about?


sounds legit to me. it could help, but i doubt it would hurt.

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby pretzeltime » Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:02 pm

letmeinplease47 wrote:Nothing we can do besides wait to go complete, right? Been a week now and didn't take more than a day or two anywhere else!


yup. just sit back and wait. seems like it's been taking people a while (couple of weeks?) to go complete lately.

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby esta » Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:04 pm

Anyone know of admitted students (from this year or past years) who didn't submit two academic LORs? I'm weighing whether to include a (probably mediocre) 2nd academic reference, or gamble with 1 strong academic and 1 strong professional LOR.

Edit: I'm 4 years out of undergrad

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby AndromedaGalaxy » Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:07 pm

pretzeltime wrote:
letmeinplease47 wrote:Nothing we can do besides wait to go complete, right? Been a week now and didn't take more than a day or two anywhere else!


yup. just sit back and wait. seems like it's been taking people a while (couple of weeks?) to go complete lately.


I'll be at three weeks tomorrow. I've gone back and checked the visible portion of the application on LSAC, all the attachments are there, LORs were sent. It's starting to feel like a psychological test.

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby xnsch » Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:35 pm

esta wrote:Anyone know of admitted students (from this year or past years) who didn't submit two academic LORs? I'm weighing whether to include a (probably mediocre) 2nd academic reference, or gamble with 1 strong academic and 1 strong professional LOR.

Edit: I'm 4 years out of undergrad


I'm not sure of anyone who has gotten accepted in the past, but on Asha's blog she specifically says that the biggest mistake you can make is to not include two academic LORs and that "Your chances of admission to Yale Law School go down drastically if you submit only one or no academic letters of recommendation." https://www.law.yale.edu/admissions/jd-admissions/ask-asha/bad-idea-jeans-biggest-mistake-you-can-make-your-yale-law-school-application

Seems like it would be better to submit a second mediocre one so that you have two academic LORs and just submit your strong professional one as a third. I personally submitted 3 LORs (2 academic, 1 professional).

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby RictusErectus » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:49 pm

AndromedaGalaxy wrote:
pretzeltime wrote:
letmeinplease47 wrote:Nothing we can do besides wait to go complete, right? Been a week now and didn't take more than a day or two anywhere else!


yup. just sit back and wait. seems like it's been taking people a while (couple of weeks?) to go complete lately.


I'll be at three weeks tomorrow. I've gone back and checked the visible portion of the application on LSAC, all the attachments are there, LORs were sent. It's starting to feel like a psychological test.


Keep waiting. I submitted my app December 5 and didn't go complete until January 5. Admittedly there was the Christmas break in between but 2+ weeks
seems to be the norm with Y at this point -- might be due to the increased volume in applications after Thanksgiving.

Of all schools, they seem to really dislike repeated communication by the applicant so you might as well settle in to the wait.

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby letmeinplease47 » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:55 pm

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby dmc1275 » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:26 pm

Is Yale trying to steal my money this late in the cycle sending me an email encouraging me to apply? Non-URM and numbers are good but not Yale-good...

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby ayylmao » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:34 pm

BuyaLittleMercy wrote:Smart money on no more acceptances----Yale just deciding 20-odd folks is enough for a class cohort this year?

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

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