Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

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if waitlisted, are you going to stay on it?

yes, until the very end
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45%
yes, but only until July (or something like that)
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no
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22%
idk???
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13%
 
Total votes: 83

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby lilitiger99 » Tue Apr 11, 2017 8:15 pm

Rdominicana15 wrote:
lilitiger99 wrote:
Rdominicana15 wrote:Application went under review 1/4/17 --> Still havent heard anything...

Cycle has been messy:

in at Columbia, Berkeley and others
Waitlisted at Michigan, Chicago, Harvard
Rejected: UPenn, Stanford, and Georgetown

Few more days to go I guess.

Are you URM? I am, and everyone I've spoken to highlights the unpredictability of URM cycles - shared rejection from penn too. Related, one of my URM friends is at Yale with low 16x LSAT, and was rejected from half of the t13.


I am a URM. And I hadn't heard of it being this unpredictable. Granted I haven't heard back from NYU either. My numbers are on the lows like low 16x LSAT. 3.79 GPA


URM cycles are more unpredictable (I think) because softs are more significant because the applicant pools are smaller, numbers are often less strong, etc. I spoke to a pre law advisor at one of those LSAC forums who used to work for a t6, and basically she was like certain URM's are "diverse enough" for schools with a lower yield for minorities (cornell, Michigan, Chicago) but might not be for the schools on the coast that heavily attract minority students. Like for example a school like Chicago in theory might take a Hispanic applicant that doesn't speak Spanish, but NYU/Columbia/Texas/Cali schools would prefer a URM that speaks the language and has more pronounced roots to their heritage because they have more yield from URMs overall. I've heard that UVA and Penn are most difficult for URMs to get into because there's less of a boost, but not sure how true that is.

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby mathaddict » Tue Apr 11, 2017 8:26 pm

HonestlyThough wrote:
mathaddict wrote:
HonestlyThough wrote:
seeprybyrun wrote:
HonestlyThough wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:
I wonder how drastically their app pool changed mid-November.


I wondered about that too and hoped my app didn't come off as reactionary given that I was involved in the campaign and basically wrote my PS about privilege. to be fair, I lsated in sept so hopefully it's obvious i was already planning to go


I had a funny convo with my Columbia interviewer. She asked me what my career plans were, and I mentioned the possibility of working in a government job. She responded, "Well, that's if there are any of those left when you graduate, but I guess we might have someone else in office by then."


Yeah, I love that politics are no longer a no-go cause all of these schools kinda assume where you fall/are unapologetic about where they fall. I've talked to a lot of interviewers/admissions people about it. no one feigns neutrality at all


Personally I'm not a fan of that at all. It's super unprofessional IMO.


Honestly, not really IMO. A ton of lawyers will be in politics. Half of yales faculty seems to be fighting trump


Being involved in politics is one thing. I think it's great that these professors are involved in politics. Assuming that everyone else falls where you do is another altogether, especially in an interview. We deem a certain level of feigned neutrality polite and I wish we could return to that feigned neutrality.

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby HonestlyThough » Tue Apr 11, 2017 8:31 pm

mathaddict wrote:
HonestlyThough wrote:
mathaddict wrote:
HonestlyThough wrote:
seeprybyrun wrote:
HonestlyThough wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:
I wonder how drastically their app pool changed mid-November.


I wondered about that too and hoped my app didn't come off as reactionary given that I was involved in the campaign and basically wrote my PS about privilege. to be fair, I lsated in sept so hopefully it's obvious i was already planning to go


I had a funny convo with my Columbia interviewer. She asked me what my career plans were, and I mentioned the possibility of working in a government job. She responded, "Well, that's if there are any of those left when you graduate, but I guess we might have someone else in office by then."


Yeah, I love that politics are no longer a no-go cause all of these schools kinda assume where you fall/are unapologetic about where they fall. I've talked to a lot of interviewers/admissions people about it. no one feigns neutrality at all


Personally I'm not a fan of that at all. It's super unprofessional IMO.


Honestly, not really IMO. A ton of lawyers will be in politics. Half of yales faculty seems to be fighting trump


Being involved in politics is one thing. I think it's great that these professors are involved in politics. Assuming that everyone else falls where you do is another altogether, especially in an interview. We deem a certain level of feigned neutrality polite and I wish we could return to that feigned neutrality.


tbh, i think a lot of these schools probably wouldn't want you if you were a trump supporter, and that's what makes this political time different and that's why they feel comfy breaching neutrality

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Whittie » Tue Apr 11, 2017 8:33 pm

mathaddict wrote:
HonestlyThough wrote:
mathaddict wrote:
HonestlyThough wrote:
seeprybyrun wrote:
HonestlyThough wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:
I wonder how drastically their app pool changed mid-November.


I wondered about that too and hoped my app didn't come off as reactionary given that I was involved in the campaign and basically wrote my PS about privilege. to be fair, I lsated in sept so hopefully it's obvious i was already planning to go


I had a funny convo with my Columbia interviewer. She asked me what my career plans were, and I mentioned the possibility of working in a government job. She responded, "Well, that's if there are any of those left when you graduate, but I guess we might have someone else in office by then."


Yeah, I love that politics are no longer a no-go cause all of these schools kinda assume where you fall/are unapologetic about where they fall. I've talked to a lot of interviewers/admissions people about it. no one feigns neutrality at all


Personally I'm not a fan of that at all. It's super unprofessional IMO.


Honestly, not really IMO. A ton of lawyers will be in politics. Half of yales faculty seems to be fighting trump


Being involved in politics is one thing. I think it's great that these professors are involved in politics. Assuming that everyone else falls where you do is another altogether, especially in an interview. We deem a certain level of feigned neutrality polite and I wish we could return to that feigned neutrality.


My Columbia interviewer had an Obama "HOPE" poster behind him. If I had been a conservative that would have definitely created a "chilling" effect in what I felt comfortable saying. Considering the discretion in admissions, it seems obvious that a staunch conservative would be looked on unfavorably by someone passionate enough about their beliefs to have an Obama poster in-frame when conducting an interview with a total stranger.

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby OneHandedEconomist » Tue Apr 11, 2017 8:51 pm

I'm gonna join the Federalist Society because I hear they throw ragers.

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby OneHandedEconomist » Tue Apr 11, 2017 8:54 pm

potterotter wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:I'm gonna join the Federalist Society because I hear they throw ragers.


Aren't you a prolific libertarian?


Naaa, I think you're thinking of Rand.

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Pozzo » Tue Apr 11, 2017 8:55 pm

OneHandedEconomist wrote:I'm gonna join the Federalist Society because I hear they throw ragers.

This is news to me, but I'm on board.

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby OneHandedEconomist » Tue Apr 11, 2017 8:57 pm

potterotter wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:
potterotter wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:I'm gonna join the Federalist Society because I hear they throw ragers.


Aren't you a prolific libertarian?


Naaa, I think you're thinking of Rand.


Naaa definitely thinking of you :wink:


lol I'm a hardcore liberal. Tho I suppose you could classify me as a neocon when it comes to foreign policy.

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Whittie » Tue Apr 11, 2017 8:57 pm

Pozzo wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:I'm gonna join the Federalist Society because I hear they throw ragers.

This is news to me, but I'm on board.


Could definitely see some strains of libertarianism mapping nicely onto bacchanalian living.

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby seeprybyrun » Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:03 pm

Pozzo wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:I'm gonna join the Federalist Society because I hear they throw ragers.

This is news to me, but I'm on board.


Not to mention a chance of getting on the SCOTUS one day?

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Whittie » Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:04 pm

seeprybyrun wrote:
Pozzo wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:I'm gonna join the Federalist Society because I hear they throw ragers.

This is news to me, but I'm on board.


Not to mention a chance of getting on the SCOTUS one day?


I wonder if this is actually a thing. Does the conservative majority on the court mean students with obvious conservative credentials are more likely to get a look from a Justice?

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby OneHandedEconomist » Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:05 pm

Whittie wrote:
seeprybyrun wrote:
Pozzo wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:I'm gonna join the Federalist Society because I hear they throw ragers.

This is news to me, but I'm on board.


Not to mention a chance of getting on the SCOTUS one day?


I wonder if this is actually a thing. Does the conservative majority on the court mean students with obvious conservative credentials are more likely to get a look from a Justice?


I mean, if there's a Republican president and Senate, yeah.

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby seeprybyrun » Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:32 pm

Whittie wrote:
seeprybyrun wrote:
Pozzo wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:I'm gonna join the Federalist Society because I hear they throw ragers.

This is news to me, but I'm on board.


Not to mention a chance of getting on the SCOTUS one day?


I wonder if this is actually a thing. Does the conservative majority on the court mean students with obvious conservative credentials are more likely to get a look from a Justice?


I mean, Scalia, Thomas, Alito, and now Gorsuch are/were all members.

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Rdominicana15 » Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:49 pm

mathaddict wrote:
HonestlyThough wrote:
mathaddict wrote:
seeprybyrun wrote:
HonestlyThough wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:
I wonder how drastically their app pool changed mid-November.


I wondered about that too and hoped my app didn't come off as reactionary given that I was involved in the campaign and basically wrote my PS about privilege. to be fair, I lsated in sept so hopefully it's obvious i was already planning to go


I had a funny convo with my Columbia interviewer. She asked me what my career plans were, and I mentioned the possibility of working in a government job. She responded, "Well, that's if there are any of those left when you graduate, but I guess we might have someone else in office by then."


Yeah, I love that politics are no longer a no-go cause all of these schools kinda assume where you fall/are unapologetic about where they fall. I've talked to a lot of interviewers/admissions people about it. no one feigns neutrality at all


Personally I'm not a fan of that at all. It's super unprofessional IMO.


Honestly, not really IMO. A ton of lawyers will be in politics. Half of yales faculty seems to be fighting trump


Being involved in politics is one thing. I think it's great that these professors are involved in politics. Assuming that everyone else falls where you do is another altogether, especially in an interview. We deem a certain level of feigned neutrality polite and I wish we could return to that feigned neutrality.[/quote]

Totally Jeb Butler

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby notsonotorious » Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:59 am

HonestlyThough wrote:
I wondered about that too and hoped my app didn't come off as reactionary given that I was involved in the campaign and basically wrote my PS about privilege. to be fair, I lsated in sept so hopefully it's obvious i was already planning to go


My app was explicitly reactionary and I owned it. Sometimes life happens and you make decisions.

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby maysecheryn » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:00 am

Has anyone posted a denial this week, here or on LSN?

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Postby notsonotorious » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:04 am

maysecheryn wrote:Has anyone posted a denial this week, here or on LSN?


i believe we haven't heard anything new either way since saturday

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby OneHandedEconomist » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:10 am

notsonotorious wrote:
maysecheryn wrote:Has anyone posted a denial this week, here or on LSN?


i believe we haven't heard anything new either way since saturday


Seems like a mighty big waitlist wave is on the horizon...

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby maysecheryn » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:24 am

OneHandedEconomist wrote:
notsonotorious wrote:
maysecheryn wrote:Has anyone posted a denial this week, here or on LSN?


i believe we haven't heard anything new either way since saturday


Seems like a mighty big waitlist wave is on the horizon...


That's what I thought. I know it's Yale, but denials are easy to send out. And at this point they are aware they are stepping all over travel plans for ASW/ASP at other schools. I can't within reason imagine why they would hold someone into this week they weren't considering admitting. I know, it's Yale. But still.

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby OneHandedEconomist » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:30 am

maysecheryn wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:
notsonotorious wrote:
maysecheryn wrote:Has anyone posted a denial this week, here or on LSN?


i believe we haven't heard anything new either way since saturday


Seems like a mighty big waitlist wave is on the horizon...


That's what I thought. I know it's Yale, but denials are easy to send out. And at this point they are aware they are stepping all over travel plans for ASW/ASP at other schools. I can't within reason imagine why they would hold someone into this week they weren't considering admitting. I know, it's Yale. But still.


Yeah, probably 10-20 acceptances and 90-100 waitlists by the end of Saturday.

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby HonestlyThough » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:37 am

notsonotorious wrote:
HonestlyThough wrote:
I wondered about that too and hoped my app didn't come off as reactionary given that I was involved in the campaign and basically wrote my PS about privilege. to be fair, I lsated in sept so hopefully it's obvious i was already planning to go


My app was explicitly reactionary and I owned it. Sometimes life happens and you make decisions.


And I'll bet that you owned, owning it! :P
In my personal case, I worry some parts of my app could have come off as disingenuous if the reader were convinced that I just decided to apply to law school

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby HonestlyThough » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:38 am

OneHandedEconomist wrote:
maysecheryn wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:
notsonotorious wrote:
maysecheryn wrote:Has anyone posted a denial this week, here or on LSN?


i believe we haven't heard anything new either way since saturday


Seems like a mighty big waitlist wave is on the horizon...


That's what I thought. I know it's Yale, but denials are easy to send out. And at this point they are aware they are stepping all over travel plans for ASW/ASP at other schools. I can't within reason imagine why they would hold someone into this week they weren't considering admitting. I know, it's Yale. But still.


Yeah, probably 10-20 acceptances and 90-100 waitlists by the end of Saturday.


Sounds about right. It blows me away every time I'm reminded of how few people they accept

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby OneHandedEconomist » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:41 am

HonestlyThough wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:
maysecheryn wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:
notsonotorious wrote:
maysecheryn wrote:Has anyone posted a denial this week, here or on LSN?


i believe we haven't heard anything new either way since saturday


Seems like a mighty big waitlist wave is on the horizon...


That's what I thought. I know it's Yale, but denials are easy to send out. And at this point they are aware they are stepping all over travel plans for ASW/ASP at other schools. I can't within reason imagine why they would hold someone into this week they weren't considering admitting. I know, it's Yale. But still.


Yeah, probably 10-20 acceptances and 90-100 waitlists by the end of Saturday.


Sounds about right. It blows me away every time I'm reminded of how few people they accept


I wonder how many people instantly respond "No thanks" when they get the waitlist.

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