Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

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if waitlisted, are you going to stay on it?

yes, until the very end
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45%
yes, but only until July (or something like that)
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20%
no
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22%
idk???
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13%
 
Total votes: 83

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby OneHandedEconomist » Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:06 pm

Whittie wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:Given the new t13 employment figures, I'm tempted to say fuck Yale and go somewhere else for free.


Haven't seen these yet. Could you link?


viewtopic.php?f=1&t=276222

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Monday » Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:10 pm

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Po$eidon » Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:10 pm

OneHandedEconomist wrote:
Whittie wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:Given the new t13 employment figures, I'm tempted to say fuck Yale and go somewhere else for free.


Haven't seen these yet. Could you link?


viewtopic.php?f=1&t=276222


Now let's hope these hold up when we graduate but if they do then mid to low t14 w/$$$ is the right choice period (unless you want to be a prof)

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby OneHandedEconomist » Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:12 pm

Monday wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:
Whittie wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:Given the new t13 employment figures, I'm tempted to say fuck Yale and go somewhere else for free.


Haven't seen these yet. Could you link?


viewtopic.php?f=1&t=276222

Yale has never been "the" best under that metric.


I'm not saying this is a reason Yale is bad. I'm saying it's a reason t13 with $$$ is good.

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby HonestlyThough » Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:12 pm

Monday wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:
Whittie wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:Given the new t13 employment figures, I'm tempted to say fuck Yale and go somewhere else for free.


Haven't seen these yet. Could you link?


viewtopic.php?f=1&t=276222

Yale has never been "the" best under that metric.


I dislike that they exclude all PI jobs from "quality" legal employment

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby HonestlyThough » Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:13 pm

Po$eidon wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:
Whittie wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:Given the new t13 employment figures, I'm tempted to say fuck Yale and go somewhere else for free.


Haven't seen these yet. Could you link?


viewtopic.php?f=1&t=276222


Now let's hope these hold up when we graduate but if they do then mid to low t14 w/$$$ is the right choice period (unless you want to be a prof)


The difference in clerkship % is notable. And, as someone who expects a volatile career, a door-opening degree seems like a wise investment

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby pretzeltime » Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:14 pm

When looking at the rankings according to just biglaw, not clerkships, I would want to go to the T10 school at the bottom of that list. lols. PI for lyfe

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby OneHandedEconomist » Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:18 pm

The point of the post was that there are great opportunities for most t13 grads

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby blessup » Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:18 pm

Pozzo wrote:Did someone say LSN data?


I did a rough and tumble analysis here:

https://i.imgur.com/rEXZexj.jpg

With all the caveats in the world since this cycle looks a lot different than the past two, I give you something for the optimist and the pessimist:

Pessimist - it looks like the window for acceptance is closing.

Optimist - unless there has been a precipitous drop in LSN user quality, there are a good number of acceptances still out there.


I did a visual breakdown of applicants from this cycle on LSN:

https://imgur.com/a/cLHTp

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby pretzeltime » Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:22 pm

blessup wrote:
Pozzo wrote:Did someone say LSN data?


I did a rough and tumble analysis here:

https://i.imgur.com/rEXZexj.jpg

With all the caveats in the world since this cycle looks a lot different than the past two, I give you something for the optimist and the pessimist:

Pessimist - it looks like the window for acceptance is closing.

Optimist - unless there has been a precipitous drop in LSN user quality, there are a good number of acceptances still out there.


I did a visual breakdown of applicants from this cycle on LSN:

https://imgur.com/a/cLHTp


wow. doing the lord's work ty

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby HonestlyThough » Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:24 pm

pretzeltime wrote:
blessup wrote:
Pozzo wrote:Did someone say LSN data?


I did a rough and tumble analysis here:

https://i.imgur.com/rEXZexj.jpg

With all the caveats in the world since this cycle looks a lot different than the past two, I give you something for the optimist and the pessimist:

Pessimist - it looks like the window for acceptance is closing.

Optimist - unless there has been a precipitous drop in LSN user quality, there are a good number of acceptances still out there.


I did a visual breakdown of applicants from this cycle on LSN:

https://imgur.com/a/cLHTp


wow. doing the lord's work ty


Indeed. Also, apparently there's either lots more oct/nov/dec complete rejects to come, or Jan had particularly low quality applicants

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Pozzo » Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:25 pm

blessup wrote:
Pozzo wrote:Did someone say LSN data?


I did a rough and tumble analysis here:

https://i.imgur.com/rEXZexj.jpg

With all the caveats in the world since this cycle looks a lot different than the past two, I give you something for the optimist and the pessimist:

Pessimist - it looks like the window for acceptance is closing.

Optimist - unless there has been a precipitous drop in LSN user quality, there are a good number of acceptances still out there.


I did a visual breakdown of applicants from this cycle on LSN:

https://imgur.com/a/cLHTp


This is presumptive admit status right here.

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby NotPanicking » Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:27 pm

Pozzo wrote:Did someone say LSN data?


I did a rough and tumble analysis here:

With all the caveats in the world since this cycle looks a lot different than the past two, I give you something for the optimist and the pessimist:

Pessimist - it looks like the window for acceptance is closing.

Optimist - unless there has been a precipitous drop in LSN user quality, there are a good number of acceptances still out there.


Bless you.

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Monday » Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:28 pm

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby seeprybyrun » Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:31 pm

blessup wrote:
Pozzo wrote:Did someone say LSN data?


I did a rough and tumble analysis here:

https://i.imgur.com/rEXZexj.jpg

With all the caveats in the world since this cycle looks a lot different than the past two, I give you something for the optimist and the pessimist:

Pessimist - it looks like the window for acceptance is closing.

Optimist - unless there has been a precipitous drop in LSN user quality, there are a good number of acceptances still out there.


I did a visual breakdown of applicants from this cycle on LSN:

https://imgur.com/a/cLHTp


There was one person who put their decision date as their complete date (the supposed April complete). Also, I don't trust futureespire's data; Yale's app wasn't even open when they supposedly sent it in, and Yale certainly hasn't been putting out WLs yet.

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby blessup » Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:37 pm

blessup wrote:
I did a visual breakdown of applicants from this cycle on LSN:

https://imgur.com/a/cLHTp


The takeaway: ~55% of all non-March-complete applicants on LSN are still pending. That seems way too high to only be applicants who went to FR. Possible hypotheses:

A - A significant number of applicants have not and will not update their LSN profiles (no way of knowing if there a status-specific bias (e.g., people who are rejected may be less likely to update than people accepted? - see, e.g., the 160/3.4 from Dec. 2016 here: https://imgur.com/a/r6BWH))

B - People on LSN are significantly higher quality applicants than the average Yale applicant ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

C - Life is meaningless let chaos reign HAHA

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby seeprybyrun » Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:40 pm

blessup wrote:
blessup wrote:
I did a visual breakdown of applicants from this cycle on LSN:

https://imgur.com/a/cLHTp


The takeaway: ~55% of all non-March-complete applicants on LSN are still pending. That seems way too high to only be applicants who went to FR. Possible hypotheses:

A - A significant number of applicants have not and will not update their LSN profiles (no way of knowing if there a status-specific bias (e.g., people who are rejected may be less likely to update than people accepted? - see, e.g., the 160/3.4 from Dec. 2016 here: https://imgur.com/a/r6BWH))

B - People on LSN are significantly higher quality applicants than the average Yale applicant ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

C - Life is meaningless let chaos reign HAHA


The credited response is D - All of the above.

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby blessup » Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:41 pm

Pozzo wrote:
blessup wrote:
Pozzo wrote:Did someone say LSN data?


I did a rough and tumble analysis here:

https://i.imgur.com/rEXZexj.jpg

With all the caveats in the world since this cycle looks a lot different than the past two, I give you something for the optimist and the pessimist:

Pessimist - it looks like the window for acceptance is closing.

Optimist - unless there has been a precipitous drop in LSN user quality, there are a good number of acceptances still out there.


I did a visual breakdown of applicants from this cycle on LSN:

https://imgur.com/a/cLHTp


This is presumptive admit status right here.


Your lips to Asha's ears.

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby HonestlyThough » Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:43 pm

seeprybyrun wrote:
blessup wrote:
Pozzo wrote:Did someone say LSN data?


I did a rough and tumble analysis here:

https://i.imgur.com/rEXZexj.jpg

With all the caveats in the world since this cycle looks a lot different than the past two, I give you something for the optimist and the pessimist:

Pessimist - it looks like the window for acceptance is closing.

Optimist - unless there has been a precipitous drop in LSN user quality, there are a good number of acceptances still out there.


I did a visual breakdown of applicants from this cycle on LSN:

https://imgur.com/a/cLHTp


There was one person who put their decision date as their complete date (the supposed April complete). Also, I don't trust futureespire's data; Yale's app wasn't even open when they supposedly sent it in, and Yale certainly hasn't been putting out WLs yet.


futureespire is for sure full of crap

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Benzmeister » Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:46 pm

KateMcKitten wrote:
seeprybyrun wrote:
HonestlyThough wrote:
seeprybyrun wrote:
pretzeltime wrote:
I would hope so. I mean, if they haven't, that means Y already knows they're going to reject that person and didn't include them in the ding wave. Which is possible but super shitty


Nobody who has reported going complete in March has reported a decision---ding or otherwise---from Yale. I think Yale is waiting to release those decisions once all FR is finished (presumably to mask which were presumptive admits and/or dinged by Asha).

Consequently, I think about 80% of those who went complete in March (none of whom have heard back yet) are already dinged, with another ~5-10% awaiting dings from FR, and the rest being WLs and admits.

Also, I think that those who went complete before March and have not heard back are in the running for admission (probably are FR-10s and FR-11s).


cool. so maybe like 1 in 10 of us has a shot :(((((((


I mean, given no further information about the candidate pool, I can only speculate that the usual distro (~9-10% admits) applies to the remaining candidates.

That said, of people who self-reported on LSN in 2014-2015 (which is likely a biased sample, but we're all in that sample anyway, right?) as being complete in March 2015, 25% of them were admitted.

As a March complete, this talk is getting my hopes *way* too high. Just ding me, daddy Y.

I went complete march 16 so my hopes are getting highhhh rooo

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Po$eidon » Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:49 pm

blessup wrote:
blessup wrote:
I did a visual breakdown of applicants from this cycle on LSN:

https://imgur.com/a/cLHTp


The takeaway: ~55% of all non-March-complete applicants on LSN are still pending. That seems way too high to only be applicants who went to FR. Possible hypotheses:

A - A significant number of applicants have not and will not update their LSN profiles (no way of knowing if there a status-specific bias (e.g., people who are rejected may be less likely to update than people accepted? - see, e.g., the 160/3.4 from Dec. 2016 here: https://imgur.com/a/r6BWH))

B - People on LSN are significantly higher quality applicants than the average Yale applicant ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

C - Life is meaningless let chaos reign HAHA



I am of the opinion that A is a real problem w/LSN which causes people to frequently overestimate their chances. It makes sense: those with good news in the form of an acceptance are more likely to share that news than those who might be ashamed or depressed as a result of their rejection. I think this applies to all acceptances and could be significant enough to alter perceptions. In this case it is quite likely altering data.

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby KateMcKitten » Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:08 pm

blessup wrote:I did a visual breakdown of applicants from this cycle on LSN:

https://imgur.com/a/cLHTp

Your username is an accurate representation of how I feel while looking at these charts. I love looking at data but hate crunching it.

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby HonestlyThough » Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:23 pm

ugh.

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby notsonotorious » Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:26 pm

I don't know what it is but I'm feeling nuclear. Maybe tonight we get absolution.

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Re: Yale c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

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