UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

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What does everyone want to do and where do they wanna do it?

Biglaw!! $$$
118
28%
Public Interest #Berkeley
84
20%
Government
42
10%
Other location (Not NE, midwest, south or Cali)
7
2%
California
71
17%
NYC
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9%
DC
20
5%
Other North East
9
2%
Midwest
13
3%
South
12
3%
 
Total votes: 415

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Colonel_funkadunk » Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:55 pm

Rigo wrote:
Leahmealone wrote:
hellohalo wrote:
Rigo wrote:Damnit! They approved my fee waiver the day after I sucked it up and just paid for it.
It's the thought that counts I guess? Ugh

Same for me with UCLA

Me too! But I just sent them an email explaining and they sent me a refund check

Wow I'm going to try this. Thanks.
Berkeley is one of my top choices but I'm just incredibly poor right now so every little bit helps. It would also be such a sign of good will if they do that.


can i have your fee waiver

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby dmgnwk » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:00 pm

Has anyone gone UR immediately after the release of the December scores? I was "incomplete" the day before and went UR on the 4th after the scores hit LSAC...

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby freekick » Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:41 am

Checking in. Submitted today. LSAT: 75+ GPA: non-reportable/superior. Feeling late, on top of blackbox uncertainty.

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Postby bleakchimera2 » Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:49 pm

In via phone call this morning, 9:14am PST, area code 510, was dean tom. Submitted 11/23, complete like 11/30 I think? And UR 12/19.

Above both 75ths, wrote four page PS and a why Berkeley. Also local. (Berkeley is my top choice). Hope this helps someone!

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Postby Keilz » Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:08 pm

bleakchimera2 wrote:In via phone call this morning, 9:14am PST, area code 510, was dean tom. Submitted 11/23, complete like 11/30 I think? And UR 12/19.

Above both 75ths, wrote four page PS and a why Berkeley. Also local. (Berkeley is my top choice). Hope this helps someone!

Congrats!

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Postby bleakchimera2 » Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:30 pm

Keilz wrote:
bleakchimera2 wrote:In via phone call this morning, 9:14am PST, area code 510, was dean tom. Submitted 11/23, complete like 11/30 I think? And UR 12/19.

Above both 75ths, wrote four page PS and a why Berkeley. Also local. (Berkeley is my top choice). Hope this helps someone!

Congrats!

Thank you!! Not gonna lie I definitely cried a little hahaha. So stoked, I am just... yep! Lol

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby pleasesendhelp » Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:52 pm

emailed me to tell me that i was under review. submitted 12/4, not sure when i went complete, so this is....UR1?

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Postby 2000andBeyond » Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:56 pm

pleasesendhelp wrote:emailed me to tell me that i was under review. submitted 12/4, not sure when i went complete, so this is....UR1?


+1 submitted 12/06, complete 01/04, UR today

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Postby kiwi50 » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:33 pm

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Postby lawlzschool » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:35 pm

kiwi50 wrote:Does anyone suspect a ballpark turnaround time between UR and notification of acceptance (if we are lucky that is)? Just went UR today!


I've been UR since 11/28, so... not fast

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Postby kiwi50 » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:37 pm

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby lawlzschool » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:02 pm

kiwi50 wrote:Oh ok haha. Thanks lawlzschool!


My pleasure... wish I had more assuring news :/

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby genjustice » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:20 pm

lawlzschool wrote:
kiwi50 wrote:Oh ok haha. Thanks lawlzschool!


My pleasure... wish I had more assuring news :/


With you on this. Just a guess, but I think those of us UR since November have either been passed to faculty review or dinged... :(

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Postby lawlzschool » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:46 pm

genjustice wrote:
lawlzschool wrote:
kiwi50 wrote:Oh ok haha. Thanks lawlzschool!


My pleasure... wish I had more assuring news :/


With you on this. Just a guess, but I think those of us UR since November have either been passed to faculty review or dinged... :(


Totally agree--hoping for Faculty Review, though and feeling kinda optimistic. I'm a data freak so I've spent a while on LSN and it seems like only really high [by comparison to me] stats people have gotten in. Hoping that they threw those of us median peeps into a pile to be read again. Also idk, it seems like comparatively few people have gotten in but maybe that's a sampling issue more than anything else.

Keepin it optimistic-ish ;)

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby lemon-lyman » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:17 pm

genjustice wrote:
lawlzschool wrote:
kiwi50 wrote:Oh ok haha. Thanks lawlzschool!


My pleasure... wish I had more assuring news :/


With you on this. Just a guess, but I think those of us UR since November have either been passed to faculty review or dinged... :(


UR since October here. But I also don't think Berkeley's accepted as many people as other schools have yet (Noting from the general lack of movement on this forum and on LSN). So maybe they're just slow - I'm hoping they're just now getting to median applicants and we'll have some more waves soon. Seems to me they've had fewer waves than other schools have had.

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby ray.bee » Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:57 pm

Do we get notified if we go under faculty review or the status checker just stays at UR?

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Postby sorence » Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:59 pm

ray.bee wrote:Do we get notified if we go under faculty review or the status checker just stays at UR?


They shoot you an email when you go UR.

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Postby ray.bee » Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:01 pm

sorence wrote:
ray.bee wrote:Do we get notified if we go under faculty review or the status checker just stays at UR?


They shoot you an email when you go UR.


Yeah, I got one and am UR since 12/15, but I heard people talking about faculty review and such. Do they tell you if you have been moved to that or just wait to contact you until a decision?

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Keilz » Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:17 pm

ray.bee wrote:
sorence wrote:
ray.bee wrote:Do we get notified if we go under faculty review or the status checker just stays at UR?


They shoot you an email when you go UR.


Yeah, I got one and am UR since 12/15, but I heard people talking about faculty review and such. Do they tell you if you have been moved to that or just wait to contact you until a decision?


They tell you

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby armc808 » Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:45 pm

Keilz wrote:
ray.bee wrote:
sorence wrote:
ray.bee wrote:Do we get notified if we go under faculty review or the status checker just stays at UR?


They shoot you an email when you go UR.


Yeah, I got one and am UR since 12/15, but I heard people talking about faculty review and such. Do they tell you if you have been moved to that or just wait to contact you until a decision?


They tell you

What's the difference between regular UR and "Faculty Review"? And does that carry any kind of connotations worth noting?

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Keilz » Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:49 pm

armc808 wrote:
Keilz wrote:
ray.bee wrote:
sorence wrote:
ray.bee wrote:Do we get notified if we go under faculty review or the status checker just stays at UR?


They shoot you an email when you go UR.


Yeah, I got one and am UR since 12/15, but I heard people talking about faculty review and such. Do they tell you if you have been moved to that or just wait to contact you until a decision?


They tell you

What's the difference between regular UR and "Faculty Review"? And does that carry any kind of connotations worth noting?


there was a TON of discussion on it on last year's thread. I would search it there for specific information. It's bound to be asked over again here too

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Postby armc808 » Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:25 pm

Keilz wrote:there was a TON of discussion on it on last year's thread. I would search it there for specific information. It's bound to be asked over again here too

Thanks for the heads up, I'll give the 2019 thread a look!

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Postby Christinabruin » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:37 am

armc808 wrote:
Keilz wrote:there was a TON of discussion on it on last year's thread. I would search it there for specific information. It's bound to be asked over again here too

Thanks for the heads up, I'll give the 2019 thread a look!


Was curious about this too and found this regarding faculty review in last year's thread:

Faculty review means your application is not good enough to be admitted straight by Dean Tom, but you are a relatively strong candidate and the admission committee (comprised of admissions team, students, and faculty) will take a look at your application again. The tls consensus is there is about 13% chance to get it once you make it to the faculty review. That is nominally better than 9% from the general pool, but it is really hard to say whether the competition in FR pool is higher or lower in the end (both the best and the worst applicants are screened out, so it all depends on the initial ratio, which is a big unknown).


what's FR?

Faculty Review, which is sort of a preferred waitlist type thing where applicants on the fence get put before a committee made of professors for an extra level of consideration. (From what I understand, at least, anyone and everyone feel free to correct me).

I wouldn't say we are necessarily on the fence. If you make it to FR it means your app is strong enough that they would consider admitting you. Faculty just want to determine a specific percentage of the class themselves. But in the end you do get an extra level of consideration and softs can have a huge impact.

Yeah, I wouldn't call it a waitlist, just a different review process for people with (generally) weaker numbers.

Can say that it's not just for people with weaker numbers. What I'm telling myself is this: Dean Tom said that he accepts people who experience has told him would definitely be accepted by FR. This would mean that his decision to accept people is based on having seen people with similar applications be accepted often enough in the past. (all this goes for rejections as well). So, those of us in FR aren't necessarily borderline; it may just be that there's something about our applications that makes it difficult to make that call with any certainty (splitters, unusual majors/previous career paths, less-known UG institutions, that sort of thing where it's harder to predict how FR would act, is my guess).

I don't think it is about numbers. Berkeley seems to be the most lenient of all T14 schools when it comes to numbers. Also I am FR now and I am at the median LSAT and above the 75th GPA so I wouldn't say I have weak numbers by Berkeley's standards. Obviously something in our apps made Dean Tom hesitant to immediately reject or accept, but there is really no way of knowing what it was about our apps that made him want to seek out a second opinion. The reason probably varies with every case, maybe someone has poor numbers but great SOFTs or vice versa. Either way it could be worse!

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Postby Veil of Ignorance » Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:36 am

Christinabruin wrote:
Faculty review means your application is not good enough to be admitted straight by Dean Tom, but you are a relatively strong candidate and the admission committee (comprised of admissions team, students, and faculty) will take a look at your application again. The tls consensus is there is about 13% chance to get it once you make it to the faculty review. That is nominally better than 9% from the general pool, but it is really hard to say whether the competition in FR pool is higher or lower in the end (both the best and the worst applicants are screened out, so it all depends on the initial ratio, which is a big unknown).


Berkeley's admit rates are nowhere near that low. I think it's something like 25% now. Maybe during the peak years it was closer to 10%

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby bartlettadmin » Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:46 am

Would it be safe to say that between UR and a decision it would be at least 2-3 weeks? I feel like Berkeley moves so slowly :cry:



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