UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

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What does everyone want to do and where do they wanna do it?

Biglaw!! $$$
119
29%
Public Interest #Berkeley
84
20%
Government
42
10%
Other location (Not NE, midwest, south or Cali)
7
2%
California
71
17%
NYC
39
9%
DC
20
5%
Other North East
9
2%
Midwest
13
3%
South
12
3%
 
Total votes: 416

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Rigo » Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:32 pm

chandhi wrote:
Assasindowntheavenue wrote:That's their pitch at least lol.

Ehhh, I'm pretty familiar with the Bay Area and have visited Berkeley quite a few times over the years. I'm not uber-familiar with the law school itself, but Berkeley in general has something interesting going on.

Yeah I'm not denying that. It is hard to rationalize a not-smart financial decision based on a feeling though if you're debt financing and every tangibly-measured metric is telling you to go elsewhere.

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby proteinshake » Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:35 pm

I feel like if Berkeley admitted based on numbers, they'd have an incredibly low yield rate. I think they know a bunch of people probably apply with the intention of going to the east coast anyway.

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Litt1tUp » Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:35 pm

canafsa wrote:The milo "protest"? No.

The violent riot? Yep.

edit: I guess that's "riots" now, as of this week.


You means paid rioters by Trump? Just stating some alternate facts.

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby goldenbear2020 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:36 pm

LHS17 wrote:
goldenbear2020 wrote:
criley01 wrote:
chandhi wrote:This might be controversial, but here are my thoughts (as someone who has not heard back yet but is in love with Berkeley):

Berkeley is not a school you pick based on rankings. If that's why you go there, you probably should have chosen somewhere else.


Re-freakin-tweet. The school itself places less of a premium on LSAT in favor of GPA (so I think criticisms of their low median are sketchy). Plus some (obviously not all) students who go there might be inclined to eschew BigLaw despite being well-qualified in favor of PI/Gov work

Except even their GPA median has fallen to #11. A decade ago, it was #4 after HYS.


For what it's worth, their view book highlights they have been top 10 for ten consecutive years. So I think their mantra to an extent has been quality despite the numbers. Has employment taken a major hit?

Biglaw/fedclerk dropped from 62% to 56% while 9 of the T13 went up or stayed the same.

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby chandhi » Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:37 pm

It'll be really funny when I get rejected this week after fiercely defending them on here. If waitlisted, I will send the link to this discussion in my LOCI.

(kidding, of course)

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby LHS17 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:39 pm

goldenbear2020 wrote:
LHS17 wrote:
goldenbear2020 wrote:
criley01 wrote:
chandhi wrote:This might be controversial, but here are my thoughts (as someone who has not heard back yet but is in love with Berkeley):

Berkeley is not a school you pick based on rankings. If that's why you go there, you probably should have chosen somewhere else.


Re-freakin-tweet. The school itself places less of a premium on LSAT in favor of GPA (so I think criticisms of their low median are sketchy). Plus some (obviously not all) students who go there might be inclined to eschew BigLaw despite being well-qualified in favor of PI/Gov work

Except even their GPA median has fallen to #11. A decade ago, it was #4 after HYS.


For what it's worth, their view book highlights they have been top 10 for ten consecutive years. So I think their mantra to an extent has been quality despite the numbers. Has employment taken a major hit?

Biglaw/fedclerk dropped from 62% to 56% while 9 of the T13 went up or stayed the same.


So out of a class of 300 that's 15-18 people.

Query whether the grading system gets revisited (I believe they preceded HYS so maybe not).

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Assasindowntheavenue » Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:40 pm

chandhi wrote:It'll be really funny when I get rejected this week after fiercely defending them on here. If waitlisted, I will send the link to this discussion in my LOCI.

(kidding, of course)


Been there done that lol. Defended various schools only to get the ding/WL email. But you seem very into UC Berkeley and so I wish you the best of luck!

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Rigo » Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:50 pm

Assasindowntheavenue wrote:
chandhi wrote:It'll be really funny when I get rejected this week after fiercely defending them on here. If waitlisted, I will send the link to this discussion in my LOCI.
(kidding, of course)

Been there done that lol. Defended various schools only to get the ding/WL email. But you seem very into UC Berkeley and so I wish you the best of luck!

Same ugh
But yeah GL chandhi. I hope you get in with good money.
But your stats are fierce so I expect you'll have amazing offers elsewhere too.

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby eck456 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:56 pm

bestwishes wrote:The small drop in rankings is likely due to the scandal with Former Dean Choudhry. That incident probably harmed others' view of Berkeley. My bet is that in a year or three, it'll return safely back to the top 10.


Yeah, this happened the day before last year's ASW and then the scholarship offers were all messed up, so a lot of people wound up not committing who otherwise might have. My guess is this had a lot to do with it - being at ASW the next day was WEIRD.

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby KatCoco » Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:57 pm

Wait, where are you guys seeing that the ranking dropped? I'm looking at this and it doesn't show Berkeley at #12... Am I missing something?

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/law-rankings?int=a1d108

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby dietcoke1 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:59 pm

KatCoco wrote:Wait, where are you guys seeing that the ranking dropped? I'm looking at this and it doesn't show Berkeley at #12... Am I missing something?

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/law-rankings?int=a1d108


rankings were leaked

==error==/2017-u ... re-here-2/

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Rigo » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:00 pm

dietcoke1 wrote:
KatCoco wrote:Wait, where are you guys seeing that the ranking dropped? I'm looking at this and it doesn't show Berkeley at #12... Am I missing something?

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/law-rankings?int=a1d108


rankings were leaked

==error==/2017-u ... re-here-2/

Discussion here:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=275065

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby KatCoco » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:01 pm

Rigo wrote:
dietcoke1 wrote:
KatCoco wrote:Wait, where are you guys seeing that the ranking dropped? I'm looking at this and it doesn't show Berkeley at #12... Am I missing something?

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/law-rankings?int=a1d108


rankings were leaked

==error==/2017-u ... re-here-2/

Discussion here:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=275065


Wow I'm so out of the loop, thanks!

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Rigo » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:03 pm

KatCoco wrote:Wow I'm so out of the loop, thanks!

The news dropped only this morning so you're not too far behind.

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Thomas Hagan, ESQ. » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:03 pm

Rigo wrote:
Colonel_funkadunk wrote:
Rigo wrote:
Colonel_funkadunk wrote:
Rigo wrote:I think it's a more fundamental correction based on (relatively) mediocre inputs and mediocre outputs. But time will tell.

so much salt i could get the rim right on my margarita

If I can't tell people at the supermarket "Top 10" then what even is the point of law school?

i just choose to use "top law school" for any school that has ever been mentioned in any capacity on this site.

Yeah I constantly hear about how the local TTT is a GREAT school, so discussing law schools with non-TLSers is always a wash. You could go to Cooley and lay people would still think you're amazing and smart.


Now that's a little unwarranted and harsh. Trump's lawyer graduated from Cooley and we all know the entire trump administration is filled with the best and brightest.

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby dietcoke1 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:04 pm

Thomas Hagan, ESQ. wrote:
Rigo wrote:
Colonel_funkadunk wrote:
Rigo wrote:
Colonel_funkadunk wrote:
Rigo wrote:I think it's a more fundamental correction based on (relatively) mediocre inputs and mediocre outputs. But time will tell.

so much salt i could get the rim right on my margarita

If I can't tell people at the supermarket "Top 10" then what even is the point of law school?

i just choose to use "top law school" for any school that has ever been mentioned in any capacity on this site.

Yeah I constantly hear about how the local TTT is a GREAT school, so discussing law schools with non-TLSers is always a wash. You could go to Cooley and lay people would still think you're amazing and smart.


Now that's a little unwarranted and harsh. Trump's lawyer graduated from Cooley and we all know the entire trump administration is filled with the best and brightest.


honestly surprised Cooley didn't vault into the T50

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby SlippinJimmy » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:19 pm

proteinshake wrote:I feel like if Berkeley admitted based on numbers, they'd have an incredibly low yield rate. I think they know a bunch of people probably apply with the intention of going to the east coast anyway.


I imagine a lot of that is how historically stingy they are with scholly money. I mean UVA has a 31% yield rate...

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby chandhi » Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:33 pm

cys0823 wrote:
I've also been UR since 2/6 so I called the admissions office yesterday. They told me that they originally intended on getting all the admissions decisions out by the end of February, but their plans got delayed. They said it'll probably be out in a couple days. I really hope it's today though!!!!

Is this still happening? Getting super antsy!

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Postby cys0823 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:37 pm

chandhi wrote:
cys0823 wrote:
I've also been UR since 2/6 so I called the admissions office yesterday. They told me that they originally intended on getting all the admissions decisions out by the end of February, but their plans got delayed. They said it'll probably be out in a couple days. I really hope it's today though!!!!

Is this still happening? Getting super antsy!

I know... I'm still waiting :// hopefully it'll be this week?

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby chandhi » Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:43 pm

cys0823 wrote:
chandhi wrote:
cys0823 wrote:
I've also been UR since 2/6 so I called the admissions office yesterday. They told me that they originally intended on getting all the admissions decisions out by the end of February, but their plans got delayed. They said it'll probably be out in a couple days. I really hope it's today though!!!!

Is this still happening? Getting super antsy!

I know... I'm still waiting :// hopefully it'll be this week?

I truly hope so. Kinda sad that I didn't hear back sooner, because there is no chance I can attend ASW now, if admitted :(
Would still be really thankful for an acceptance, though.

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Postby rozes » Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:01 pm

chandhi wrote:
cys0823 wrote:
chandhi wrote:
cys0823 wrote:
I've also been UR since 2/6 so I called the admissions office yesterday. They told me that they originally intended on getting all the admissions decisions out by the end of February, but their plans got delayed. They said it'll probably be out in a couple days. I really hope it's today though!!!!

Is this still happening? Getting super antsy!

I know... I'm still waiting :// hopefully it'll be this week?

I truly hope so. Kinda sad that I didn't hear back sooner, because there is no chance I can attend ASW now, if admitted :(
Would still be really thankful for an acceptance, though.


Bay Area's great for meditation classes. Because I think we all (myself included) need one now.

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby batlaw » Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:02 pm

chandhi wrote:
cys0823 wrote:
chandhi wrote:
cys0823 wrote:
I've also been UR since 2/6 so I called the admissions office yesterday. They told me that they originally intended on getting all the admissions decisions out by the end of February, but their plans got delayed. They said it'll probably be out in a couple days. I really hope it's today though!!!!

Is this still happening? Getting super antsy!

I know... I'm still waiting :// hopefully it'll be this week?

I truly hope so. Kinda sad that I didn't hear back sooner, because there is no chance I can attend ASW now, if admitted :(
Would still be really thankful for an acceptance, though.


Between the Berkeley 2/6+ purgatory with no-FR and being on Duke non-PT, the wait is definitely taking a toll! I think it is less about the actual wait time and more about the perception of being in the minority waiting for a decision (which is a different vibe than some schools I'm still waiting on). Also, as we get deeper into the cycle it seems that figuring out things like $$ and visiting schools gets trickier. I still don't understand how this non-FR works and wish I'd applied even a few days sooner. Sending positive vibes to all those still waiting!

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby connordalto » Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:04 pm

Anybody had any movement on the 2/6 UR wave today? Hoping this will be the week!

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby jza1994 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:40 pm

connordalto wrote:Anybody had any movement on the 2/6 UR wave today? Hoping this will be the week!


+1

We're all still waiting, I think.

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Re: UC Berkeley School of Law C/O 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby cftvgybhu » Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:17 am

jza1994 wrote:
connordalto wrote:Anybody had any movement on the 2/6 UR wave today? Hoping this will be the week!


+1

We're all still waiting, I think.

+2, have UR 2/3, hope it will be good news.



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