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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:06 pm
by Stephylynette
Keilz wrote:
Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:I also have a blank mailing @ 3/27 and my scholly mailed out on 2/21
Same and mine was mailed out in the first round
Same. I thought it had something to do with me submitting my deposit today but I guess not lol

Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:12 pm
by Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash
I think the mailing may be the ASW eval I just received.

Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:12 pm
by Harry Ass Truman
Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:I think the mailing may be the ASW eval I just received.
ASW eval? Like an overview of what happened?

Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:15 pm
by VA2lawschool
Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:
VA2lawschool wrote:
grades?? wrote:
Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:2¢, I did hear that people are less happy at CLS (but not like they all hate themselves, just using it as an example of a big city school with shit weather)

I also heard some people giving honest advice about going to another school if you want certain things for your career.

Did not hear any ribbing of Michigan or UVA (someone might have said Ann arbor was cold, but that's it)

Namely it seemed like they were just like "academics is pretty much the same, but our longitude is better"
I am a 2l/3l and I wasn't at admitted students day. I have a number of friends at CLS, and they all hate their lives much more than myself or my friends here at Duke. It might be something in the water at CLS, but categorically they have a worse experience then us. It might be because their class size is almost triple ours, the general hustle and bustle of NYC, whatever it is. Maybe its because most Duke kids got into CLS but decided on the more $$$ from Duke and better weather for objectively similar job outcomes whereas CLS kids generally have much more debt and a much higher COL.

I think the sell to Durham is rather easy. 3rd smallest class size in the t10, best weather of the t10, and access to every large market with great biglaw and clerkship %s. Plus Durham is just a much nicer place to spend stressful 1L than NYC, at least for me.
While I'm sure there are some, I'm not sure "most kids got into CLS" at Duke seems at all accurate to me. I have plenty at friends at both schools, and they both like it for different reasons. Just seems odd to me that the Duke students I talked with seemed to feel the need to convince me that CLS is a hellscape from which there is no escape.
I don't think it's a stretch at all the say more than half of Duke Law students get in to CCN (though maybe not CLS in particular because that's one school and between flukes and non-applicants I wouldn't be comfortable saying that's over 50%)

80% of students have scholarship, and an above median student is above 25 lsat and above median GPA at CLS.

You can choose to think more than half the students are just salty about not getting into CLS (I have no hard evidence to prove that wrong), but I don't really think the numbers support that
I never said that the people who trash talk CLS are salty about getting in, I just said it was odd. I am in at CCN but likely going the Mich/UVA route and I think there are plenty of reasons to do so. I don't think the opportunities are significantly different at these schools and I think they are great schools! However, what I noticed at Duke was unsolicited opinions about "every" student at CLS/Chicago, instead of saying why they loved it where they were. Mich/UVA showed me why they might be more collegial/happy, rather than needing to "tell" by putting down other schools.

Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:22 pm
by Keilz
Stephylynette wrote:
Keilz wrote:
Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:I also have a blank mailing @ 3/27 and my scholly mailed out on 2/21
Same and mine was mailed out in the first round
Same. I thought it had something to do with me submitting my deposit today but I guess not lol
Congrats on your decision!

Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:51 pm
by Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash
VA2lawschool wrote:
Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:
VA2lawschool wrote:
grades?? wrote:
Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:2¢, I did hear that people are less happy at CLS (but not like they all hate themselves, just using it as an example of a big city school with shit weather)

I also heard some people giving honest advice about going to another school if you want certain things for your career.

Did not hear any ribbing of Michigan or UVA (someone might have said Ann arbor was cold, but that's it)

Namely it seemed like they were just like "academics is pretty much the same, but our longitude is better"
I am a 2l/3l and I wasn't at admitted students day. I have a number of friends at CLS, and they all hate their lives much more than myself or my friends here at Duke. It might be something in the water at CLS, but categorically they have a worse experience then us. It might be because their class size is almost triple ours, the general hustle and bustle of NYC, whatever it is. Maybe its because most Duke kids got into CLS but decided on the more $$$ from Duke and better weather for objectively similar job outcomes whereas CLS kids generally have much more debt and a much higher COL.

I think the sell to Durham is rather easy. 3rd smallest class size in the t10, best weather of the t10, and access to every large market with great biglaw and clerkship %s. Plus Durham is just a much nicer place to spend stressful 1L than NYC, at least for me.
While I'm sure there are some, I'm not sure "most kids got into CLS" at Duke seems at all accurate to me. I have plenty at friends at both schools, and they both like it for different reasons. Just seems odd to me that the Duke students I talked with seemed to feel the need to convince me that CLS is a hellscape from which there is no escape.
I don't think it's a stretch at all the say more than half of Duke Law students get in to CCN (though maybe not CLS in particular because that's one school and between flukes and non-applicants I wouldn't be comfortable saying that's over 50%)

80% of students have scholarship, and an above median student is above 25 lsat and above median GPA at CLS.

You can choose to think more than half the students are just salty about not getting into CLS (I have no hard evidence to prove that wrong), but I don't really think the numbers support that
I never said that the people who trash talk CLS are salty about getting in, I just said it was odd. I am in at CCN but likely going the Mich/UVA route and I think there are plenty of reasons to do so. I don't think the opportunities are significantly different at these schools and I think they are great schools! However, what I noticed at Duke was unsolicited opinions about "every" student at CLS/Chicago, instead of saying why they loved it where they were. Mich/UVA showed me why they might be more collegial/happy, rather than needing to "tell" by putting down other schools.
My inference was that you thought less than 50% had the opportunity to go to CLS and feel the need to put the school down. That would imply you think they're salty, but sorry if I made an incorrect inference.

On your other note I met many students who loved where they were and didn't put down the other schools in doing so. I'm not doubting your experience, but I am sorry you had a bad one because how you explained UVA/mich is how I walked away from duke

Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:11 pm
by Sadnessandmisfortune
Anyone have any luck negotiating with Duke?

Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:13 am
by somedeadman
Someone I know with my identical stats just got a 135k scholarship, while I was waitlisted....proof that this is more than a numbers game

Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:26 am
by musiclover123
Stephylynette wrote:
Keilz wrote:
Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:I also have a blank mailing @ 3/27 and my scholly mailed out on 2/21
Same and mine was mailed out in the first round
Same. I thought it had something to do with me submitting my deposit today but I guess not lol
I have a blank mailing too, but I didn't go to ASW and haven't submitted my deposit yet..weird

Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:33 am
by proteinshake
musiclover123 wrote:
Stephylynette wrote:
Keilz wrote:
Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:I also have a blank mailing @ 3/27 and my scholly mailed out on 2/21
Same and mine was mailed out in the first round
Same. I thought it had something to do with me submitting my deposit today but I guess not lol
I have a blank mailing too, but I didn't go to ASW and haven't submitted my deposit yet..weird
+1 on the blank mailing

Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:19 am
by Beads2017
When are first seat deposits due/ how do we pay them? I'm having trouble finding the right spot on the website for that information

Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:11 pm
by VinnyGambini Jr.
Went UR2 yesterday after submitting 1/4. UR1 was either 2/6 or 2/7.

Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:01 pm
by Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash
Beads2017 wrote:When are first seat deposits due/ how do we pay them? I'm having trouble finding the right spot on the website for that information
I think Deposit 1 (of 1?) is due April 22nd. It's really strange the way the communications are on it (it seems to be very negotiable).

As to how you pay, it should be in your welcome package but:

1) you can pay by E-Check at https://www.dukeonline.duke.edu/bursar

2) mail a paper check (they recommend UPS or FedEx next day)

you also need to send in the acceptance form at:

https://law.duke.edu/admis/downloads/ac ... neform.pdf

you can just scan and email or send with paper check.

Also for anyone, do we need to send in the signed scholly letter?

Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:09 pm
by Stephylynette
Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:
Beads2017 wrote:When are first seat deposits due/ how do we pay them? I'm having trouble finding the right spot on the website for that information
I think Deposit 1 (of 1?) is due April 22nd. It's really strange the way the communications are on it (it seems to be very negotiable).

As to how you pay, it should be in your welcome package but:

1) you can pay by E-Check at https://www.dukeonline.duke.edu/bursar

2) mail a paper check (they recommend UPS or FedEx next day)

you also need to send in the acceptance form at:

https://law.duke.edu/admis/downloads/ac ... neform.pdf

you can just scan and email or send with paper check.

Also for anyone, do we need to send in the signed scholly letter?
Yes you do! Either send both the scholarship letter and contract w/ the deposit info and acceptance form or your can do it separately. You can send them both to the same email and they'll forward scholarship stuff to financial aid

Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:22 pm
by kfraser1993
VinnyGambini Jr. wrote:Went UR2 yesterday after submitting 1/4. UR1 was either 2/6 or 2/7.
Same here Vinny. Do we still have a shot at getting in this late in the game/ does anyone know how long it should take to get an answer after this UR2?

Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:10 am
by futureellewoods123
kfraser1993 wrote:
VinnyGambini Jr. wrote:Went UR2 yesterday after submitting 1/4. UR1 was either 2/6 or 2/7.
Same here Vinny. Do we still have a shot at getting in this late in the game/ does anyone know how long it should take to get an answer after this UR2?
+1

Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:25 am
by proteinshake
futureellewoods123 wrote:
kfraser1993 wrote:
VinnyGambini Jr. wrote:Went UR2 yesterday after submitting 1/4. UR1 was either 2/6 or 2/7.
Same here Vinny. Do we still have a shot at getting in this late in the game/ does anyone know how long it should take to get an answer after this UR2?
+1
no exact time, but prob very soon.

Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:23 am
by VinnyGambini Jr.
futureellewoods123 wrote:
kfraser1993 wrote:
VinnyGambini Jr. wrote:Went UR2 yesterday after submitting 1/4. UR1 was either 2/6 or 2/7.
Same here Vinny. Do we still have a shot at getting in this late in the game/ does anyone know how long it should take to get an answer after this UR2?
+1
I'm expecting a WL or rejection, but you never know!

Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:13 pm
by bbp1993
Does anyone know if Duke requires a deans certification. I am trying to get all my deadlines and required documents in order.

Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:44 pm
by dasq5511
Do we have any idea how long Duke takes to re-consider scholarship offers? I saw someone mention that re-evaluations are done by committee as well, does this slow things down a lot?

Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:35 pm
by cautiouscalamity
dasq5511 wrote:Do we have any idea how long Duke takes to re-consider scholarship offers? I saw someone mention that re-evaluations are done by committee as well, does this slow things down a lot?
The email I got said "early April" so it looks like they're expecting a quick-ish turn around

Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:43 pm
by proteinshake
cautiouscalamity wrote:
dasq5511 wrote:Do we have any idea how long Duke takes to re-consider scholarship offers? I saw someone mention that re-evaluations are done by committee as well, does this slow things down a lot?
The email I got said "early April" so it looks like they're expecting a quick-ish turn around
is the email you're referring to one they sent in response to a negotiation you initiated?

Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:55 pm
by cautiouscalamity
proteinshake wrote:
cautiouscalamity wrote:
dasq5511 wrote:Do we have any idea how long Duke takes to re-consider scholarship offers? I saw someone mention that re-evaluations are done by committee as well, does this slow things down a lot?
The email I got said "early April" so it looks like they're expecting a quick-ish turn around
is the email you're referring to one they sent in response to a negotiation you initiated?
yes

Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:38 pm
by chandhi
Just withdrew and threw some money back in. Check LSN (same username) for exact info.

Best of luck, all!

Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 3:17 pm
by Nightwing
chandhi wrote:Just withdrew and threw some money back in. Check LSN (same username) for exact info.

Best of luck, all!
Thank you, friend. A bit of hope for some PR second glances.