Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby TexasENG » Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:37 pm

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash » Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:41 pm

TexasENG wrote:
Keilz wrote:
proteinshake wrote:
TexasENG wrote:
Keilz wrote:Received my letter and was awarded 15k less than what Cornell and Michigan offered me. Based on this and my savings, Duke would require me to take out $20K more in loans than Cornell and $40K more than Michigan. Dukes tuition is really high, 59K


Given how much they push their COA, being relatively low I was surprised when I looked at Michigan and Duke's COA calcs for loans and Michigan is actually like ~5k a year lower for out of state than Duke.

Edit: Just pulled it

Duke estimated COA for a year $83,751
Michigan estimated COA for a year (OOS) $77,114 !

I'm kinda skeptical of that difference since Duke's tuition is only $700 higher and the rent is only a bit over half that of Michigan.


Wow texaseng we are on the same wave length I just came to post the info. These are both 16-17 numbers. Duke estimates room board to be 13.3, Michigan to be 14.2. HOWEVER michigans does not include health insurance but Duke does (2.5k)

There needs to be a new thread that compares all the schools


Just looked at it more in depth. There are definitely some really odd discrepancies.

Duke includes ~1700 for transportation
Duke includes ~2500 for medical insurance (Michigan will add in on request)
Duke's rent / etc is ~900 less than Michigan
Duke is additionally adding in ~1200 more for loan fees (I don't understand this at all? Why is Duke estimating so much more for loan fees?)

I think that 6300 above is essentially the difference between the 2. Looks like in all likelihood the COA would be almost identical.

Edit: This is not helping get my work done . :evil: :|


Yeah, in general I don't like school estimated col, in any town save ny, san fran, dc you could make two cols match if you wanted. I would just look at the Scholly number and tuition, should be good enough for comparison

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby batlaw » Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:46 pm

proteinshake wrote:
TexasENG wrote:
Keilz wrote:Received my letter and was awarded 15k less than what Cornell and Michigan offered me. Based on this and my savings, Duke would require me to take out $20K more in loans than Cornell and $40K more than Michigan. Dukes tuition is really high, 59K


Given how much they push their COA, being relatively low I was surprised when I looked at Michigan and Duke's COA calcs for loans and Michigan is actually like ~5k a year lower for out of state than Duke.

Edit: Just pulled it

Duke estimated COA for a year $83,751
Michigan estimated COA for a year (OOS) $77,114 !

I'm kinda skeptical of that difference since Duke's tuition is only $700 higher and the rent is only a bit over half that of Michigan.


I was just going to echo this. As someone who has researched living options in both locations and knows people in both, my impression is that Durham is considerably cheaper for rent of similar type accommodations. Am I missing something?

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby grades?? » Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:49 pm

batlaw wrote:
proteinshake wrote:
TexasENG wrote:
Keilz wrote:Received my letter and was awarded 15k less than what Cornell and Michigan offered me. Based on this and my savings, Duke would require me to take out $20K more in loans than Cornell and $40K more than Michigan. Dukes tuition is really high, 59K


Given how much they push their COA, being relatively low I was surprised when I looked at Michigan and Duke's COA calcs for loans and Michigan is actually like ~5k a year lower for out of state than Duke.

Edit: Just pulled it

Duke estimated COA for a year $83,751
Michigan estimated COA for a year (OOS) $77,114 !

I'm kinda skeptical of that difference since Duke's tuition is only $700 higher and the rent is only a bit over half that of Michigan.


I was just going to echo this. As someone who has researched living options in both locations and knows people in both, my impression is that Durham is considerably cheaper for rent of similar type accommodations. Am I missing something?



No. The reason the COA calculator is higher at Duke is because the "extras" a poster pointed out above are used by Duke to help students get more loan money from the government if needed. By packing all that in there which is significantly more than COA, it helps students who might need an extra 5k one year for a medical emergency for example. Trust me, Duke's cost of living is ridiculously awesome. Essentially Duke wants to make sure people can get extra in loans in need be. For someone, that extra 5k might make the difference one year to pay for something completely unexpected if needed.

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby proteinshake » Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:53 pm

Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:
TexasENG wrote:
Keilz wrote:
proteinshake wrote:
TexasENG wrote:
Keilz wrote:Received my letter and was awarded 15k less than what Cornell and Michigan offered me. Based on this and my savings, Duke would require me to take out $20K more in loans than Cornell and $40K more than Michigan. Dukes tuition is really high, 59K


Given how much they push their COA, being relatively low I was surprised when I looked at Michigan and Duke's COA calcs for loans and Michigan is actually like ~5k a year lower for out of state than Duke.

Edit: Just pulled it

Duke estimated COA for a year $83,751
Michigan estimated COA for a year (OOS) $77,114 !

I'm kinda skeptical of that difference since Duke's tuition is only $700 higher and the rent is only a bit over half that of Michigan.


Wow texaseng we are on the same wave length I just came to post the info. These are both 16-17 numbers. Duke estimates room board to be 13.3, Michigan to be 14.2. HOWEVER michigans does not include health insurance but Duke does (2.5k)

There needs to be a new thread that compares all the schools


Just looked at it more in depth. There are definitely some really odd discrepancies.

Duke includes ~1700 for transportation
Duke includes ~2500 for medical insurance (Michigan will add in on request)
Duke's rent / etc is ~900 less than Michigan
Duke is additionally adding in ~1200 more for loan fees (I don't understand this at all? Why is Duke estimating so much more for loan fees?)

I think that 6300 above is essentially the difference between the 2. Looks like in all likelihood the COA would be almost identical.

Edit: This is not helping get my work done . :evil: :|


Yeah, in general I don't like school estimated col, in any town save ny, san fran, dc you could make two cols match if you wanted. I would just look at the Scholly number and tuition, should be good enough for comparison

agreed with this. rent in Durham for 8 months is like $5000.

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby patttt » Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:32 am

How long after sending in a loci/why duke can a PR applicant like myself expect any movement?

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Earlskies » Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:04 am

patttt wrote:How long after sending in a loci/why duke can a PR applicant like myself expect any movement?

I'm interested as well.

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby premalone » Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:06 am

Was fortunate enough to get a much more generous scholarship than I probably deserved and will almost definitely be in Durham next year, can't wait to see some of y'all there!

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Beads2017 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:27 am

chargers21 wrote:Scholly letter sent! I can't wait!


How do you know when your scholarship letter has been sent??

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby proteinshake » Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:37 am

Earlskies wrote:
patttt wrote:How long after sending in a loci/why duke can a PR applicant like myself expect any movement?

I'm interested as well.

I think it says when they start pulling from the PR in the PR email, but I'd guess it'd be May or June.

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Beads2017 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:49 am

Hey guys I interviewed on 2/2, any idea when I should hear back about scholly?

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash » Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:57 am

Beads2017 wrote:
chargers21 wrote:Scholly letter sent! I can't wait!


How do you know when your scholarship letter has been sent??


Status checker will change

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby azaleafire » Wed Feb 15, 2017 12:17 pm

Scholarship letter sent #bless. Interviewed on the 20th.

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash » Wed Feb 15, 2017 12:48 pm

azaleafire wrote:Scholarship letter sent #bless. Interviewed on the 20th.


Is the change date today or yesterday?

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby azaleafire » Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:00 pm

Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:
azaleafire wrote:Scholarship letter sent #bless. Interviewed on the 20th.


Is the change date today or yesterday?


Yesterday, but it happened late.

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash » Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:06 pm

azaleafire wrote:
Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:
azaleafire wrote:Scholarship letter sent #bless. Interviewed on the 20th.


Is the change date today or yesterday?


Yesterday, but it happened late.


Cool cool cool, just wanted to make sure the trend was holding

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby GOODWORKSTE » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:16 pm

Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:
azaleafire wrote:
Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:
azaleafire wrote:Scholarship letter sent #bless. Interviewed on the 20th.


Is the change date today or yesterday?


Yesterday, but it happened late.


Cool cool cool, just wanted to make sure the trend was holding



whats your theory?

i interviewed 24 when u think ill hear back?

next week

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:22 pm

Based on 2 whole weeks of data my assumptions are:

Each Tuesday, people who interviewed between the Tuesday and Monday of 1 month prior will have their scholarships mailed out. (IE on the 21, all of us the interviewed between 1/24 and 1/30 will get notifications).

These letters will arrive on Monday or Tuesday of the next week

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Earlskies » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:30 pm

proteinshake wrote:
Earlskies wrote:
patttt wrote:How long after sending in a loci/why duke can a PR applicant like myself expect any movement?

I'm interested as well.

I think it says when they start pulling from the PR in the PR email, but I'd guess it'd be May or June.

It doesn't say in the email unfortunately. I was wondering with Duke's PT app process as well as the relatively slower cycle, if they might pull people of PR earlier.

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby bearedman8 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:25 pm

No decisions on LSN since Monday. I'm UR2 and my anxiety is killing me lol!

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Future Ex-Engineer » Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:19 pm

In via email around 3 this afternoon.

Email says they'll send me a fin-aid application email soon. Did I hear correctly that all fin-aid interview spots are full until some time in March?

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby goldenbear2020 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:19 pm

mrgstephe wrote:In via email around 3 this afternoon.

Email says they'll send me a fin-aid application email soon. Did I hear correctly that all fin-aid interview spots are full until some time in March?

I got mine the next morning. All interview spots are full until March 17 or so.

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Future Ex-Engineer » Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:21 pm

goldenbear2020 wrote:
mrgstephe wrote:In via email around 3 this afternoon.

Email says they'll send me a fin-aid application email soon. Did I hear correctly that all fin-aid interview spots are full until some time in March?

I got mine the next morning. All interview spots are full until March 17 or so.


Well that sucks. By that point it's basically time to start putting down seat deposits (slight hyperbole). How am I supposed to do any sort of negotiations if I don't get my initial offers until almost April :shock:

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby sphyrnidae13 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:22 pm

Does anyone have advice on what questions to prepare for the scholarship interview? Thanks

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby proteinshake » Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:22 pm

sphyrnidae13 wrote:Does anyone have advice on what questions to prepare for the scholarship interview? Thanks

check the first post



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