Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby lymenheimer » Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:51 pm

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SilverSurfer2020 wrote:Received scholarship today, a little stingy. I'm pretty disappointed as I have received more $$$ to schools with a better ranking. I'd really like to go to Duke, how soon is it okay to begin the negotiation process?

I think duke does that because they're located in a low COL area. so 100K at Duke >>> 100K at like, NU or Michigan.


This is the case. A 80k scholarship goes farther at Duke than 150k at say Penn. The cost of living in Durham is amazing, its great. As far as Nixon goes, we are only 1 of three law schools I believe with a President-Yale Harvard and Duke. While Nixon might not be the most well-regarded Prez, at least he isn't the worst any more! Also, by all accounts he was a great law student when he was here. His problems much later in life didn't necessarily materialize here from what some professors in the know describe.

Feel free to pm me any questions you have. But it is easy to get caught up in something like well Penn gave me slightly more money, so Duke is being stringy. No, Duke usually gives out pretty generous offers and knows its cost of living is significantly lower than most other t10 law schools.


In addition, somewhere around 80%+ of students get scholarships. They share the love rather than having a majority of students subsidize the schollies/tuition like at other schools.

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash » Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:21 pm

katthegreat11 wrote:Got my scholarship, not as much as I was hoping for considering what I got at other T14 schools...


Is there such a thing as scholly yp? If so I think you and surfer got it

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby proteinshake » Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:25 pm

grades?? wrote:
proteinshake wrote:
SilverSurfer2020 wrote:Received scholarship today, a little stingy. I'm pretty disappointed as I have received more $$$ to schools with a better ranking. I'd really like to go to Duke, how soon is it okay to begin the negotiation process?

I think duke does that because they're located in a low COL area. so 100K at Duke >>> 100K at like, NU or Michigan.


This is the case. A 80k scholarship goes farther at Duke than 150k at say Penn. The cost of living in Durham is amazing, its great. As far as Nixon goes, we are only 1 of three law schools I believe with a President-Yale Harvard and Duke. While Nixon might not be the most well-regarded Prez, at least he isn't the worst any more! Also, by all accounts he was a great law student when he was here. His problems much later in life didn't necessarily materialize here from what some professors in the know describe.

Feel free to pm me any questions you have. But it is easy to get caught up in something like well Penn gave me slightly more money, so Duke is being stringy. No, Duke usually gives out pretty generous offers and knows its cost of living is significantly lower than most other t10 law schools.

wait would you really say 80K at Duke > 150K at Penn (in terms of COA)

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby grades?? » Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:38 pm

proteinshake wrote:
grades?? wrote:
proteinshake wrote:
SilverSurfer2020 wrote:Received scholarship today, a little stingy. I'm pretty disappointed as I have received more $$$ to schools with a better ranking. I'd really like to go to Duke, how soon is it okay to begin the negotiation process?

I think duke does that because they're located in a low COL area. so 100K at Duke >>> 100K at like, NU or Michigan.


This is the case. A 80k scholarship goes farther at Duke than 150k at say Penn. The cost of living in Durham is amazing, its great. As far as Nixon goes, we are only 1 of three law schools I believe with a President-Yale Harvard and Duke. While Nixon might not be the most well-regarded Prez, at least he isn't the worst any more! Also, by all accounts he was a great law student when he was here. His problems much later in life didn't necessarily materialize here from what some professors in the know describe.

Feel free to pm me any questions you have. But it is easy to get caught up in something like well Penn gave me slightly more money, so Duke is being stringy. No, Duke usually gives out pretty generous offers and knows its cost of living is significantly lower than most other t10 law schools.

wait would you really say 80K at Duke > 150K at Penn (in terms of COA)


That might have been pushing it, but 70k difference in COA over 3 years between Durham and Philly could offset it (with the assumption that you are paying whatever the scholarship doesn't cover in tuition and COA with loans). A lot of law students share a house (usually fairly large, backyard, etc) for 400-500 a month. I assume philly is 1200+ for a 1 bedroom around Upenn if not more, that already is 12-15k difference in COA per year. So maybe I was a little broad with the numbers, but given the cost of living in Durham compared to a city, the numbers work out as this example explains.

Another example: my friend at Georgetown law pays 2k in rent a month for a studio apartment/utilities/etc that is a 15 minute train ride from the school. I pay 500 and my roommate pays 500 for a 4 bedroom house in Durham literally walking distance to campus. I have a bedroom and an office just because it is so cheap. He pays 24k in rent a year, I pay 6k. That difference right there is 18k in rent alone a year times 3 years, 54k extra in COA purely for housing. Plus food is generally more expensive in cities, etc.

Given those real numbers in cost of living, would you rather get a 120k scholarship at GT or 80k at Duke? Cost of living wise, you actually come out worse going to GT (plus its a TTTT) even though it appears to be cheaper.

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby SilverSurfer2020 » Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:59 pm

grades?? wrote:
proteinshake wrote:
grades?? wrote:
proteinshake wrote:
SilverSurfer2020 wrote:Received scholarship today, a little stingy. I'm pretty disappointed as I have received more $$$ to schools with a better ranking. I'd really like to go to Duke, how soon is it okay to begin the negotiation process?

I think duke does that because they're located in a low COL area. so 100K at Duke >>> 100K at like, NU or Michigan.


This is the case. A 80k scholarship goes farther at Duke than 150k at say Penn. The cost of living in Durham is amazing, its great. As far as Nixon goes, we are only 1 of three law schools I believe with a President-Yale Harvard and Duke. While Nixon might not be the most well-regarded Prez, at least he isn't the worst any more! Also, by all accounts he was a great law student when he was here. His problems much later in life didn't necessarily materialize here from what some professors in the know describe.

Feel free to pm me any questions you have. But it is easy to get caught up in something like well Penn gave me slightly more money, so Duke is being stringy. No, Duke usually gives out pretty generous offers and knows its cost of living is significantly lower than most other t10 law schools.

wait would you really say 80K at Duke > 150K at Penn (in terms of COA)


That might have been pushing it, but 70k difference in COA over 3 years between Durham and Philly could offset it (with the assumption that you are paying whatever the scholarship doesn't cover in tuition and COA with loans). A lot of law students share a house (usually fairly large, backyard, etc) for 400-500 a month. I assume philly is 1200+ for a 1 bedroom around Upenn if not more, that already is 12-15k difference in COA per year. So maybe I was a little broad with the numbers, but given the cost of living in Durham compared to a city, the numbers work out as this example explains.

Another example: my friend at Georgetown law pays 2k in rent a month for a studio apartment/utilities/etc that is a 15 minute train ride from the school. I pay 500 and my roommate pays 500 for a 4 bedroom house in Durham literally walking distance to campus. I have a bedroom and an office just because it is so cheap. He pays 24k in rent a year, I pay 6k. That difference right there is 18k in rent alone a year times 3 years, 54k extra in COA purely for housing. Plus food is generally more expensive in cities, etc.

Given those real numbers in cost of living, would you rather get a 120k scholarship at GT or 80k at Duke? Cost of living wise, you actually come out worse going to GT (plus its a TTTT) even though it appears to be cheaper.



Thanks for the perspective Grades! I didn't realize COL was as affordable as you say.

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby grades?? » Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:07 am

SilverSurfer2020 wrote:
grades?? wrote:
proteinshake wrote:
grades?? wrote:
proteinshake wrote:
SilverSurfer2020 wrote:Received scholarship today, a little stingy. I'm pretty disappointed as I have received more $$$ to schools with a better ranking. I'd really like to go to Duke, how soon is it okay to begin the negotiation process?

I think duke does that because they're located in a low COL area. so 100K at Duke >>> 100K at like, NU or Michigan.


This is the case. A 80k scholarship goes farther at Duke than 150k at say Penn. The cost of living in Durham is amazing, its great. As far as Nixon goes, we are only 1 of three law schools I believe with a President-Yale Harvard and Duke. While Nixon might not be the most well-regarded Prez, at least he isn't the worst any more! Also, by all accounts he was a great law student when he was here. His problems much later in life didn't necessarily materialize here from what some professors in the know describe.

Feel free to pm me any questions you have. But it is easy to get caught up in something like well Penn gave me slightly more money, so Duke is being stringy. No, Duke usually gives out pretty generous offers and knows its cost of living is significantly lower than most other t10 law schools.

wait would you really say 80K at Duke > 150K at Penn (in terms of COA)


That might have been pushing it, but 70k difference in COA over 3 years between Durham and Philly could offset it (with the assumption that you are paying whatever the scholarship doesn't cover in tuition and COA with loans). A lot of law students share a house (usually fairly large, backyard, etc) for 400-500 a month. I assume philly is 1200+ for a 1 bedroom around Upenn if not more, that already is 12-15k difference in COA per year. So maybe I was a little broad with the numbers, but given the cost of living in Durham compared to a city, the numbers work out as this example explains.

Another example: my friend at Georgetown law pays 2k in rent a month for a studio apartment/utilities/etc that is a 15 minute train ride from the school. I pay 500 and my roommate pays 500 for a 4 bedroom house in Durham literally walking distance to campus. I have a bedroom and an office just because it is so cheap. He pays 24k in rent a year, I pay 6k. That difference right there is 18k in rent alone a year times 3 years, 54k extra in COA purely for housing. Plus food is generally more expensive in cities, etc.

Given those real numbers in cost of living, would you rather get a 120k scholarship at GT or 80k at Duke? Cost of living wise, you actually come out worse going to GT (plus its a TTTT) even though it appears to be cheaper.



Thanks for the perspective Grades! I didn't realize COL was as affordable as you say.


No problem! I will be honest and say there are some new apartment buildings really close to the law school that charge more, like 800-1k for a 1 bedroom, but you can find a nice house for that price as well. And Durham is starting to become a hotspot for food & there are a bunch of great local microbreweries so Durham might not be a city, but it is certainly not the backwater.

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby jza1994 » Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:08 am

UR1 today, non PT

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby proteinshake » Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:22 am

grades?? wrote:.

how many roommates to law students typically room with?

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby chargers21 » Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:34 am

grades?? wrote:
proteinshake wrote:
SilverSurfer2020 wrote:Received scholarship today, a little stingy. I'm pretty disappointed as I have received more $$$ to schools with a better ranking. I'd really like to go to Duke, how soon is it okay to begin the negotiation process?

I think duke does that because they're located in a low COL area. so 100K at Duke >>> 100K at like, NU or Michigan.


This is the case. A 80k scholarship goes farther at Duke than 150k at say Penn. The cost of living in Durham is amazing, its great. As far as Nixon goes, we are only 1 of three law schools I believe with a President-Yale Harvard and Duke. While Nixon might not be the most well-regarded Prez, at least he isn't the worst any more! Also, by all accounts he was a great law student when he was here. His problems much later in life didn't necessarily materialize here from what some professors in the know describe.

Feel free to pm me any questions you have. But it is easy to get caught up in something like well Penn gave me slightly more money, so Duke is being stringy. No, Duke usually gives out pretty generous offers and knows its cost of living is significantly lower than most other t10 law schools.

Cincinnati had Taft so TTTs get a win :lol: IUPUI might see its first president here in a bit, though... Pence is actually the second vice president out of IUPUI, interestingly enough. Not really attributing their political success to IUPUI, as much as them being bona fide conservatives from a dark red midwestern state

edit: on the CoL conversation, I am really going to have to crunch the number I feel like because Duke probably won't be my biggest scholly in the T14 outright, but might still be cheaper than my other options

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby thebigwang » Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:06 am

Did anyone else get a letter recently from Dean Levi with minimal information besides congratulations and a sales pitch for Duke Law? It also came with a brochure titled "3 Questions for the Dean." I ripped open the envelope hoping it was a scholarship letter only to be disappointed :roll:

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Sadnessandmisfortune » Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:34 am

thebigwang wrote:Did anyone else get a letter recently from Dean Levi with minimal information besides congratulations and a sales pitch for Duke Law? It also came with a brochure titled "3 Questions for the Dean." I ripped open the envelope hoping it was a scholarship letter only to be disappointed :roll:


LOL yup. I knew it would be promotional stuff since I haven't interviewed yet, but I had hoped for more free Duke stuff.

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Anon.y.mousse. » Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:53 am

Got my scholarship yesterday, pretty spot on what I expected.

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby addie1412 » Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:54 am

Oops, looks like my mail must have come late yesterday! Got my scholly offer, very pleasantly surprised :mrgreen:

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Postby Keilz » Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:09 am

I didn't get anything...where do you all live?

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Postby TexasENG » Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:16 am

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Keilz » Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:21 am

TexasENG wrote:
Keilz wrote:I didn't get anything...where do you all live?


Same here :( . Guess we are too far away. Hoping we get good news from Duke tonight. Any movement from NYU for you yet?


No :( thanks for asking. how about you?

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Anon.y.mousse. » Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:39 am

Keilz wrote:I didn't get anything...where do you all live?


Ohio!

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby proteinshake » Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:54 am

those who got their scholly offer: please update your LSNs so we can admire! :D

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby airwrecka » Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:40 pm

Just had my scholarship interview. Honestly, it felt really weird. Not the best interview I've had at all. But maybe it was mostly that I just don't really love Duke :?

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby NotAGolfer » Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:44 pm

TexasENG wrote:
Keilz wrote:I didn't get anything...where do you all live?


Same here :( . Guess we are too far away. Hoping we get good news from Duke tonight. Any movement from NYU for you yet?

Also didn't get mine yesterday. It's going to be in our mailboxes today, I can feel it.

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash » Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:42 pm

In other news, I guess we can't anticipate scholarship information to be released weekly :/

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Re: Duke Law School c/o 2020 Applicants (2016-2017)

Postby Finickywalrus » Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:00 pm

anrf1225 wrote:
Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:In other news, I guess we can't anticipate scholarship information to be released weekly :/


my mailings section just updated today to scholarship info mailed, so maybe it is weekly?


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