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Re: TLS c/o 2020 Applicants (politics pole)

Postby chargers21 » Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:50 pm

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Re: TLS c/o 2020 Applicants (politics pole)

Postby Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash » Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:01 pm

chargers21 wrote:
Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:
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Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:Speaking of Lockean views of government, any atheists here who take a lockean view of nature (and by extension of government?)

I'm only agnostic and I can't imagine anything shot of the super-natural keeping people peaceful the way he describes.

E: Also, anyone here take a non hobbes/Locke view of nature? I don't think I've ever met someone who was say Montesquieuan

I haven't extensively read any of Locke's work, could you summarize the Lockean view of nature?


From what I remember (someone who follows Locke will have a better understanding); absent any groups or "proto-governments" people

"order their actions, and dispose of their possessions and persons, as they think fit, within the bounds of the law of nature."

He goes on to say that reason is the law of nature and what binds humans together. When written it was deeply rooted in English Christianity and as I learned it, reason was imbued in all of us through God.

It's the most popular libertarian view on the state of nature, because in holds that Governments are not very necessary and that human beings will naturally trend towards peaceful coexistence

Oh, well then I most certainly do not subscribe to that. I think govenment is required in some form, and that human nature is largely animalistic nature. Our actions are the result of chemicals and environment type of thing. It is amazing that humans have evolved to the point of something that almost resembles actual free will, though. Truly amazing.


I think it's more subtle than I explained it, I'm not totally certain which is why I want to speak to someone who subscribes to it. It does however sound like given zero laws Locke holds that people would naturally co-habitate and that any violation of the peace would be snuffed out without issue

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Re: TLS c/o 2020 Applicants (politics pole)

Postby airwrecka » Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:02 pm

I need to get my brother in on this thread! His favorite pastime (I kid you not) is "philosophizing" with people. But I haven't read very much philosophy myself, so I'm not a great participant :(

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Postby Hennessy » Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:13 pm

Gitaroo_Dude wrote:Now that I think about it, can anyone point to examples of a post WW2 super power's military successfully defeating a large scale insurgency/winning a war of attrition? Only one that comes to mind is Russia essentially leveling Chechnya, but maybe there are others?


Sri Lanka and Tamils

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Re: TLS c/o 2020 Applicants (politics pole)

Postby Rigo » Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:15 pm

I'm on the last season of The Wire and I'm like why did they end this after only 5 seasons? :(

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Postby Gitaroo_Dude » Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:16 pm

Rigo wrote:I'm on the last season of The Wire and I'm like why did they end this after only 5 seasons? :(


Enjoying it so far? I know it gets slagged a bit but I thought it was pretty good, even if it was a little too bleak at times.

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Re: TLS c/o 2020 Applicants (politics pole)

Postby Rigo » Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:18 pm

Gitaroo_Dude wrote:
Rigo wrote:I'm on the last season of The Wire and I'm like why did they end this after only 5 seasons? :(

Enjoying it so far? I know it gets slagged a bit but I thought it was pretty good, even if it was a little too bleak at times.

Loved it so far.

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Re: TLS c/o 2020 Applicants (politics pole)

Postby Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash » Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:36 pm

Need a new show.

Can be on netflix, amazon, Hulu, or HBO.

Preferably one that can be binged but isn't dated.

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Postby dietcoke1 » Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:37 pm

Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:Need a new show.

Can be on netflix, amazon, Hulu, or HBO.

Preferably one that can be binged but isn't dated.


OA - netflix

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Postby airwrecka » Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:38 pm

Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:Need a new show.

Can be on netflix, amazon, Hulu, or HBO.

Preferably one that can be binged but isn't dated.


Great British Baking Show!! :D :D :D haha, although I told my boss (30 year old male) to watch it and he scoffed at me :cry:

I've heard great things about Man in the High Castle on Amazon, but have only seen part of the first episode myself.

And my guilty pleasure that ALWAYS makes me laugh out loud is Mindy Project :lol:

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Postby Gitaroo_Dude » Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:46 pm

Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:Need a new show.

Can be on netflix, amazon, Hulu, or HBO.

Preferably one that can be binged but isn't dated.


All roads lead to Fargo. It's on Hulu now I think.

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Postby LSRAT » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:07 pm

Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:Need a new show.

Can be on netflix, amazon, Hulu, or HBO.

Preferably one that can be binged but isn't dated.


Girl Boss on Netflix is actually pretty awesome. Just binged it.

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Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:Need a new show.

Can be on netflix, amazon, Hulu, or HBO.

Preferably one that can be binged but isn't dated.


I really enjoyed Narcos. If you haven't seen "The night of" go watch that now, it is fantastic.

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Postby RParadela » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:09 pm

Mr. Robot, Game of Thrones, and Westworld are the best 3 shows on television. Also, True Detective season 1 is amazing

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Postby Rigo » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:15 pm

Pretty Little Liars.

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Postby poptart123 » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:17 pm

chargers21 wrote:
Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:
chargers21 wrote:
Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:Speaking of Lockean views of government, any atheists here who take a lockean view of nature (and by extension of government?)

I'm only agnostic and I can't imagine anything shot of the super-natural keeping people peaceful the way he describes.

E: Also, anyone here take a non hobbes/Locke view of nature? I don't think I've ever met someone who was say Montesquieuan

I haven't extensively read any of Locke's work, could you summarize the Lockean view of nature?


From what I remember (someone who follows Locke will have a better understanding); absent any groups or "proto-governments" people

"order their actions, and dispose of their possessions and persons, as they think fit, within the bounds of the law of nature."

He goes on to say that reason is the law of nature and what binds humans together. When written it was deeply rooted in English Christianity and as I learned it, reason was imbued in all of us through God.

It's the most popular libertarian view on the state of nature, because in holds that Governments are not very necessary and that human beings will naturally trend towards peaceful coexistence

Oh, well then I most certainly do not subscribe to that. I think govenment is required in some form, and that human nature is largely animalistic nature. Our actions are the result of chemicals and environment type of thing. It is amazing that humans have evolved to the point of something that almost resembles actual free will, though. Truly amazing.


Your view of the state of nature is more similar to that of Thomas Hobbes.

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Re: TLS c/o 2020 Applicants (politics pole)

Postby poptart123 » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:19 pm

Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:
chargers21 wrote:
Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:
chargers21 wrote:
Dr.Degrees_Cr.Cash wrote:Speaking of Lockean views of government, any atheists here who take a lockean view of nature (and by extension of government?)

I'm only agnostic and I can't imagine anything shot of the super-natural keeping people peaceful the way he describes.

E: Also, anyone here take a non hobbes/Locke view of nature? I don't think I've ever met someone who was say Montesquieuan

I haven't extensively read any of Locke's work, could you summarize the Lockean view of nature?


From what I remember (someone who follows Locke will have a better understanding); absent any groups or "proto-governments" people

"order their actions, and dispose of their possessions and persons, as they think fit, within the bounds of the law of nature."

He goes on to say that reason is the law of nature and what binds humans together. When written it was deeply rooted in English Christianity and as I learned it, reason was imbued in all of us through God.

It's the most popular libertarian view on the state of nature, because in holds that Governments are not very necessary and that human beings will naturally trend towards peaceful coexistence

Oh, well then I most certainly do not subscribe to that. I think govenment is required in some form, and that human nature is largely animalistic nature. Our actions are the result of chemicals and environment type of thing. It is amazing that humans have evolved to the point of something that almost resembles actual free will, though. Truly amazing.


I think it's more subtle than I explained it, I'm not totally certain which is why I want to speak to someone who subscribes to it. It does however sound like given zero laws Locke holds that people would naturally co-habitate and that any violation of the peace would be snuffed out without issue


For the most part but Locke recognizes that there are some humans that will not co-habitate peacefully and thus we form governments to protect our natural rights: life, liberty, and property.

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Postby Dodocogon » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:20 pm

RParadela wrote:Mr. Robot, Game of Thrones, and Westworld are the best 3 shows on television. Also, True Detective season 1 is amazing


I really need to commit myself to binging GOT this summer

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Postby poptart123 » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:21 pm

For anybody curious about Locke or many other philosophers/artists/historic figures/etc this series is enjoyable and a good starting point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZiWZJgJT7I

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Postby Gitaroo_Dude » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:22 pm

RParadela wrote:Also, True Detective season 1 is amazing


Season 1 was sooooo good, made Season 2 that much more painful.

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Postby proteinshake » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:30 pm

the sun hasn't shined in three days and now I'm thankful I'm not going to Cornell.

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Postby chandhi » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:39 pm

proteinshake wrote:the sun hasn't shined in three days and now I'm thankful I'm not going to Cornell.

Ugh same... http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-new ... se-it-did/

"It would take about 40 years for that much rain to fall in Yuma, Ariz., the weather service’s Seattle office noted on Twitter."

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Postby Rigo » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:48 pm

I love the pnw but I'm skeptical if I could actually live there long term and not go crazy in the winter.

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Postby twiix » Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:25 pm

RParadela wrote:Mr. Robot, Game of Thrones, and Westworld are the best 3 shows on television. Also, True Detective season 1 is amazing


I think we're the same person. I can't recommend these 4 shows enough.

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Re: TLS c/o 2020 Applicants (politics pole)

Postby ldlestrange » Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:32 pm

Gitaroo_Dude wrote:
RParadela wrote:Also, True Detective season 1 is amazing


Season 1 was sooooo good, made Season 2 that much more painful.



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